Sonny's Missed Punch
Has it ever been explained by Coppola or the editors in any interviews how one of the greatest films ever missed Sonny's terrible "air punch" which seems virtually impossible to not notice in the editing room?
shareHas it ever been explained by Coppola or the editors in any interviews how one of the greatest films ever missed Sonny's terrible "air punch" which seems virtually impossible to not notice in the editing room?
shareIm curious as well
shareI would theorize that by the time they noticed it in editing it was too costly to go back and reshoot. Remember that it was a very complex scene involving extras, city streets, etc. Even a film like "The Godfather" didn't have an unlimited budget.
But, yeah, that part always bothers me too,
Just my speculation but...this film was before the explosion of VHS tapes and home entertainment systems, so most people probably didn't get to watch a film over and over again like they can today...unless you liked going to the theater a lot.
So the filmmakers probably didn't think most people would notice the mistake as the scene is full of action and fast paced...I don't think its that obvious to casual viewers, unless you've watched the scene several times.
Nowadays with Blu Ray and DVD every little mistake can stand out like a sore thumb, and people can go through scenes like an archaeologist which was impossible back in the day.
Just a guess
Great answer. Very true!
shareJust my speculation but...this film was before the explosion of VHS tapes and home entertainment systems, so most people probably didn't get to watch a film over and over again like they can today...unless you liked going to the theater a lot.
So the filmmakers probably didn't think most people would notice the mistake as the scene is full of action and fast paced...I don't think its that obvious to casual viewers, unless you've watched the scene several times.
Nowadays with Blu Ray and DVD every little mistake can stand out like a sore thumb, and people can go through scenes like an archaeologist which was impossible back in the day.
Just a guess
"So the filmmakers probably didn't think most people would notice the mistake as the scene is full of action and fast paced...I don't think its that obvious to casual viewers, unless you've watched the scene several times."
It was blatantly obvious to me, and I just watched it for the first time last night. There wasn't anything subtle about it that would require someone to watch it several time in order to notice it. This is the closest his fist comes to the other guy's face during that punch:
https://i.imgur.com/FoKKqa5.jpg
He missed the punch by about 2 feet and the camera was at the perfect angle to clearly see just how big of a miss it was. You'd have to be blind to not notice it. Had the camera been behind Sonny it wouldn't have been so noticeable; maybe not noticeable at all.
They should have done another take. That drastically whiffed punch takes you right out of the movie, i.e., suspension of disbelief comes to a screeching halt there. Instead of seeing Sonny Corleone beating up his brother-in-law, suddenly we clearly see two actors "play-fighting".
I just saw a first season ep of Gunsmoke, and a woman wallops Chester with a big cross to the chin.
I'm sure it didn't hurt Dennis Weaver, but in a way, it looked like she really punched him !
I was surprised it looked like she really made contact.
Even Stevie Wonder saw that.
share"Just my speculation but...this film was before the explosion of VHS tapes and home entertainment systems, so most people probably didn't get to watch a film over and over again like they can today...unless you liked going to the theater a lot."
I saw it on the big screen just once and it was even more obvious than on tv.
Bro, it was noticable back in the VHS days.
shareIt was difficult to film that scene, and they eventually got to a point where they said fuck it, it's good enough.
shareI saw the film in the theater in 1972, and I do remember the audience laughing at that missed punch.
But..it was likely allowed for the reasons detailed in the above thread and...
...in real life
...sometimes guys swing hard and miss even while delivering blows. Its like a golf swing that misses the ball.
So maybe its not a gaffe at all. In terms of the story, this is: "Sonny swings so hard on one punch that he misses his target entirely."
Or maybe not.
Problem with that theory is that Carlo sells it as if Sonny did land it. It's almost as bad as 70's pro wrestling.
shareOh yeah, you're right...well, never mind.
Though I won't erase my post. Leave it out there for my embarrassment.
And...again...my 1972 audience sure did laugh. Good thing great movies can overcome bad gaffes.
I don't know whether I like the phantom punch or not. On the one hand it adds to the whole cult status of this film, and on the other it takes me out of the scene every time because it's so obvious and I know it's coming.
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Sonny was so bad-ass he didn't even need to actually make contact to knock a guy out.
shareI've watched this at least three times (not in theaters) and I never noticed it.
shareIt’s like someone smeared a small glob of paint on the Sistine Chapel.
sharehahaha i know !!
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