Is it me or did It seem like all the guys in this sitcom are Gay?
So is it me or did all the guys on this show seem gay? or is that how all old British dudes act?
shareSo is it me or did all the guys on this show seem gay? or is that how all old British dudes act?
shareWell, I know that in the pilot ep (I think) Mr Lucas pinches Mr Humphries' arse...personally I think there's a lot of room for maneuvering in some of the characters! XD
"Period military is not the dress code of a straight man." - Owen, Torchwood
havent you ever heard the phrase, "He isn't gay, he's just British."
The only one who was gay was Mr Humphries, the rest didn't act gay, some acted according to their class. Lucas kept hitting on "the birds" so we know he was not gay at all. Mr Grace was not
so I have trouble seeing where you are coming from.
Okay - the idea of Young Mr Grace having sex with ANYONE is just...*shudder*
All I meant was that there are certain lines of speech - between Mr Humphries and Mr Lucas especially - that can be taken as flirting. I have examples! *g* (I'm kinda a fiend when I comes to finding gay/slash relationships in books/films/TV programmes! Yes, I worry for my sanity sometimes...) Mind you, some extremely straight friends of mine will flirt with everyone, irregardless of age, gender or sexual orientation! ^_^
"Period military is not the dress code of a straight man." - Owen, Torchwood
I agree with Mr_Toastee that none of the characters acted gay except for Mr. Humphries. I read in another post elsewhere that Mr. Humphries comes off as being bi-sexual at times, based on comments made here or there. Everyone gives Mr. Humphries weird looks and occasionally make snide remarks about his lifestyle. If they were gay, they wouldn't do that. Mr. Lucas seems not to have a problem with who Mr. Humphries is, which it would seem is causing certain posters here to lump him in as being gay too. Far too many people do that in real life.
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OK, so what's the speed of dark?
What about the fact that Mr. Lucas totally flirts with Mr. Humphries in the earlier episodes? It doesn't mean he's gay, but before the focus moved to be less about Mr. Lucas (thus cutting down on some of his character) and more about the whole group it was made pretty clear that Mr. Lucas wasn't entirely straight either.
"Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't so."
I've never gotten that impression from Mr. Lucas at any time during the series. He's just teasing Mr. Humphries and isn't bothered by his way of life. Mr. Lucas doesn't even strike me as bi. There is reason to believe that Mr. Humphries has flirted with both sides of the fence on occasion, but not Lucas.
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OK, so what's the speed of dark?
Maybe it is how "all old British dudes act" (or at least an exaggeration of it for the show) but I always thought there was something between Mr. Humphries and Mr. Lucas... :)
"Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't so."
Don't worry, my mom still seems to think there was something between Poirot and Captain Hastings despite Hastings being an obvious ladies' man and getting married more than once. Like you, she also thought there was something between Lucas and Humphrey. So you're not alone in reading that sort of thing from character interactions that seem impossible to the rest of us.
Personally, I think Mr. Lucas is too into the ladies to even contemplate that sort of thing. A part of the reason why he seems surprisingly open-minded about Mr. Humphries is probably because they're trying to portray Mr. Humphries as ambiguous enough to be taken as a straight guy who's just a momma's boy (he DOES talk about going on dates with women in different episodes, but they are very rare moments) instead of a homosexual despite the blatant jokes. The writers were probably concerned about the reception they'd get with a homosexual character portrayed, so they allowed him to be ambiguous enough to pass and it worked beautifully. At least, that's how I see it.
If they had actually out and out let Mr. Humphreys be revealed as a definite homosexual, Mr. Lucas may have reacted to Mr. Humphries a bit differently, but the ambiguity surrounding Mr. Humphries allows for a much closer interaction.
Why would you assume just because Lucas is very into the ladies that he would react differently to Mr. Humphries had it ever been determined for certain that he was gay? Men who are secure in their own sexuality have no reason to be homophobic. I know straight men who have no problem with having gay friends and they even teasingly flirt with them because they are comfortable enough with each other to do so without worrying that they will be misunderstood.
As to whether Humphries is gay or straight or bi, he is a fictional character and as such he is whatever the writers made him. They left it ambiguous, therefore, I feel there is no definitive answer. It's not as if we can snoop into his real life and find out anything that wasn't on screen since he didn't exist off screen. John Inman did, but he was not Mr. Humphries so knowing about HIS life wouldn't prove anything about Mr. Humphries.
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I never once said that I felt Mr. Lucas would act homophobic if Mr. Humphries were revealed to be gay. My point was nothing of the sort. I have friends very much the same as you do and your comment in regards to men who are comfortable with their own sexuality comes as no surprise whatsoever. May I also add that it's not just men who do that. I have come to know quite a good many lesbians (I've no idea why I'm some sort of lesbian magnet) and I also have quite a few heterosexual female friends who are mutual friends and jokingly flirt quite often as well.
My point was that for its time, you'd never see Mr. Lucas act as he did occasionally if it were confirmed that Mr. Humphries was gay. You have to understand that AYBS? was not created in the 2000's and it would be completely unheard of to do more than make vague jokes that were refuted by necessity. This had nothing to do with Mr. Lucas as a (fictional) person, nor did it have anything to do with Mr. Humphries as a (fictional) person but the mindset of the time. My statement in regards to Mr. Lucas's interaction with Mr. Humphries was aimed more at discussing the plot/writing as it was written in its time and not in any possible current reality.
To clarify things, I'm in awe of the writing for AYBS?. I adore how they made an ambiguous character and managed to keep him that way. I love how they made so many jokes stem from that that are to this very day absolutely hilarious. They got away with it by occasionally having Mr. Humphries admit to going on dates with women, but not actually saying if the date was a one-sided affair or not. In my opinion, it's a very clever thing they did and I'm glad they got away with it. That and the getting away with pussy jokes by using it in reference to a cat were two things I appreciate. People know deep down there's a double entendre there, but it's difficult to be offended by (if you were the sort of person at that time to be offended) it with how it's presented.
You cannot compare britain 70's with the rest of the world in the seventies! Monty Python boys were already showing topless ladies (real -- not only pictures) in 1969! You just can't compare britain with the rest of the world!
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USA is very prude-ish about sex, hehe
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Sweden here! *waves*
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I'm a huge 'Allo 'Allo fan so I checked out on IMDB what other shows Jeremy and David had done and that's why I found this show. And I was hoooked right away. I watched all 10 seasons in a week or sommething. What I like about it?? Well, the charachters(Mr Humphries the most, he can do no wrong. Gay, straight, bi, whatever, I love him no matter what) and I love the innuendos. I pretty much laugh at everything in that show, except for most of the jokews made by Old Mr Grace :-)
shareyou mean because they had manners, didn't dress in sweatpants and drink beer all day ?
shareHaving a gay character in a sitcom is not, and never was limited to Britian. Many american sitcoms like "Soap", "Barney Miller", "Thirtysomething", "Ellen" all had atleast one openly gay character. so the O.P. made no sense when he asked that question. I prefer Are you being served humour... not the dark, boring, cringe-worthy american comedy you hear over and over and over again
shareMr humphries is the only one who appeared gay to me. Mr Luvas definitely isn't - he's very keen on girls. and captain Peacock and Mr Grainger are married men. What do you think is gay about how they act?
shareProbably the simple fact that they have British accents, and aren't American Charlie Sheen-type louts.
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