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Joan Baez songs: Just terrible.


Love the '60s. Love Dylan. Think hippies (sometimes) get a bad rap. HATE the Joan Baez songs in SILENT RUNNING. Granted, I'm not a fan of hers. I think she's probably the single most grating, sanctimonious, cloying, liberal, holier-than-thou singer/songwriter of the '60s EVER (followed closely by Peter, Paul & Mary). But her songs, while on their own may be considered decent by some, just DO NOT FIT in the film and probably instantly dated the film about 48 hours after it was originally released in March of 1972.

I wasn't expecting a STAR WARS-type soundtrack (I realize it was released 5 years earlier), but actual songs WITH LYRICS don't work in a sci-fi film, regardless of the content/context. In SILENT RUNNING, these songs stick out like a sore thumb and just generated snickers of disbelief from this viewer.

(Otherwise, a damn fine film with arguably Bruce Dern's best-ever performance.)

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I'd rather stick red hot pokers in my ears than listen to that Joan Baez soundtrack again.

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Yes, Joan Baez is bad

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Although I like some of her stuff, I find Ms. Baez a bit of a shrieker at times, including these songs - she's mostly not quite a quarter-tone sharp when singing them.

However, the instrumental theme tune I find very affecting in itself during the titles. It is beautiful IMVHO.

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Most people who visit IMDb are too young to remember 60's, and things have changed so much ever since that many of the older ones don't remember them either.

Those were the years when Joan Baez was a symbol, and in 1972 this memory was so fresh that it was not her music but her symbolism, myth, image, importance why her songs were used for the movie.

It is hard to compare it to modern musicians. Most of them don't have or at least don't show any political or other attitudes. They are not devoted to any idea but the career and money that comes out of it. Media show only their scandalous side and not (if any) political awareness, activities for social or other welfare etc. And it seems that media are supported by the managers who think it's risky to stand for some idea, because the opponents might stop buying CDs and concert tickets.

Besides, we are talking about a movie almost 4 decades old. What do you think, which of the recently made movies will survive 4 decades and be available for the audience in middle of the 21st century? And which music made so up to date for so up to date made movies will be considered suitable, acceptable, let alone attractive after several generations?

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I loved the music in Silent Running. I suppose what some found jarring about it, I found to be an ironic contrast. I liked the juxtaposition of the warm, organic tones of the soundtrack against the cold metal of the ship, just as I liked the images of Earth's last forests against a backdrop of glass, geodesic struts and the vacuum of space, and the strange, lifelike movements of machines that otherwise looked like waddling stick welders.

Silent Running is not a logical film: it's a film of such stark contrasts, painted in broad strokes. It either works for you emotionally, or it doesn't. For me, it did.

If you don't like it, don't watch it. But please, don't even suggest touching its soundtrack. I'm sick to death of people going back and re-writing the past. (Are you listening, George Lucas?) If you think you can improve on it, go make a better film from scratch.

Good luck with that. Most of y'all's greatest achievements are probably contained in the high scores on your Playstations.

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I agree. The complainers about music not fitting must have had coronaries during the phase of adding a rap song to the credits of every movie that came out of Hollywood. That IS over, isn't it?

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I remember this film from when it was released but after re-watching Baez's voice and songs are horrible. I know she has her fans but for me the sound makes me laugh and cringe at the same time. Joan Baez ruined the film. If they ever re-master this film I hope they delete her from the soundtrack and come up with something else.

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So who should they replace her with? Eminem? Lady Gaga? That would really add a lot to the credibility of the movie...

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Those songs were the stronger part of the movie along with the drones and nature. Bruce Dern couldn't keep up with the whole thing.

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When Mark Kermode (top UK film critic and folk music fan) met Joan Baez in the 1990s he asked her about the film and she was a bit confused until he sung her some of her lyrics. Apparently she never saw it. "Was it any good?" was her next question.

Roy 72.

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Isn't that one of life's universal truths?:

"Joan Baez songs" = "just terrible"

:o)

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I completely agree; I love retro sci-fi films, but the Joan Baez songs used in Silent Running ruined the film for me. It's not so much that they sound awful, but that they make no attempt to empathize with the image, making their presence just sound weird and their premise shallow. Using pop music in any film seems like a big mistake to me, and this film seems like it would be much better accompanied with a classical soundtrack, or perhaps early electronics along the lines of the soundtrack to Forbidden Planet.

I think a combination of this and the unrealistic characterisations (the idiotic and thuggish crewmembers, who despite being sent on a mission to save the forests in a space biodome -a mission you'd expect would have strong personality profiling beforehand- seem to relish in running over the flowers in vehicles, as well as the lead himself who seems to act as a psychopath to humans and other robots, yet the audience is supposed to believe he cares for the forests) ruined this film for me, in that it seems like such a transparent attempt at reinforcing the conservationist ideals of the film, which would be better if done more subtly, allowing the audience to decide and understand for themselves.

I did love the visuals and the premise however, so I by no means hated the film.

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I feel it helps a LOT if you turn the volume WAY DOWN when those songs play. They are mixed way too loud in the movie and jump out way wrong. Crank your volume down -20 db and suddenly they are tolerable within the context of the movie. too bad the mix volume balancing wasn't better... maybe these songs would not seem SO AWEFUL and they are left as is.

Dreadful mix. Turn it down during those songs and it all works much much better

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I seem to remember this sort of thing being quite common in films of that era. Blame the sixties.

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It was, just about every movie of that time had these types of songs. I was 13 when I saw this in the theater and remembering being inspired by them. lol I just watched it with my wife on Netflix and the songs were so loud we both just laughed. Another similar movie that reminds me of this situation was "Bless the Beasts and the Children" where the buffalo were the endangered subject.

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Great film but totally agree, the songs are appalling. They sound like something off mid-70s Sesame Street.

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There is a song called "Silent Running" quite a haunting tune released some time after the movie. Obviously it had nothing to do with the film but in my mind they are linked! I watched the movie today for the first time in about 20 years (found it on a $5 special table). In my memory it was better. Still loved Huey and Dewie though - esp the poker game where they cheat!

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