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How is this rated higher than Fatal Attraction?


Fatal Attraction is about 4000% times better than this - better script, WAY better acting, WAY better directing. I guess cause this came out first it's better?? But seriously folks - this movie is like the student-film version of Fatal Attraction

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Fatal Attraction is about 4000% times better than this - better script, WAY better acting, WAY better directing. I guess cause this came out first it's better?? But seriously folks - this movie is like the student-film version of Fatal Attraction


... maybe because your subjective opinion does not constitute blatant truth. I believe that Play Misty for Me is the far superior film: more elegantly seductive, less trashy and manipulative, less over-the-top, more visually graceful and rhythmically compulsive, more thematically compelling, more engagingly ambiguous, featuring better locations and music, and not indulging in awful, soap opera-style plot gimmicks to the same extent. Indeed, Fatal Attraction is difficult to take seriously in many ways.

And I have formally studied film on both the undergraduate and graduate levels. That fact doesn't mean that my view is inherently superior to yours or anyone else's, but my point is that your opinion does not reflect some obvious truth that every thoughtful person about film would automatically share.

Now, if one subscribes to the "more is more" school of Hollywood filmmaking, one would probably deem Fatal Attraction superior. But often in movies, less is more.

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Interesting analysis.

I have not studied film in any meaningful way but it seems to me that this could be expanded a bit.

Play Misty For Me was made at a time when Hollywood was starting to get used to the idea of a powerful woman in movies. They were no longer simply love interests, sex pots, femmes fatale or saintly types as they were until the 1960s. Bonnie and Clyde (1967) could be considered an earlier example of this trend. While Evelyn doesn't tote a machine gun as Bonnie does, she exerts a power which is challenging to the traditional male. He is actually fearful of her.

Michele Carey's character in El Dorado (1966) is another minor example. She actually shoots John Wayne! She also has a pivotal role in the final shootout.

This was a fairly new idea. Latter day analysis which claims that Sharon Stone's character in Basic Instinct was the turning point in the presentation of powerful - even dominant - women in movies has ignored much of this or pretended it doesn't exist.

I think the film should also be looked at in the context of what became known as the Tate Murders. The idea that celebrities could be targeted in their own homes sent seismic waves through Hollywood and the celebrity set in general. The majority of the killers were actually women and while the film does not imply that all women are potentially psychotic, it removes the previous stereotype of a role secondary to men.

And perhaps there might be another theme: the potential consequences of casual sex. I'm sure anyone interested in metaphor could see a connection there, even though I doubt it is intentional.

On the other hand, the film is very enjoyable just on its own and doesn't really need a lot of analysis. Modern day audiences, raised on horror flicks with a brutal killing every 10 minutes, would find this boring. Others, like me, find that the slower pace enhances the suspense to a far greater degree than relentless violence ever could.

Fatal Attraction, whatever its merits, was not an original idea and had none of the subtlety of Play Misty For Me. From my own point of view, I had far less empathy for Michael Douglas' character than I did for Clint Eastwood's. Equally, I had far less fear of Glenn Close's character. Neither was able to engage me at anything more than a superficial level and that is enough for me to write it off as a cheap imitation of the real thing.

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I like both movies, but I personally prefer Play Misty For Me as a whole. And I definitely disagree with the whole acting thing, Jessica Walter was just as good as Glenn Close was, IMO. Both gave great performances.

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4000 times better? Really?

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I think she was better.

Glenn Close wasn't breaking any new ground. She was treading a path cut by others, like Jessica Walter.

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Clint Eastwood's acting (and possibly directing) in this film is what made it so bad. He is just NOT a good leading man in a romantic role. It's also hard to believe that so many "groupies" he would have just for being a small-town radio DJ. He must have wrote the script too, in collaboration with Stephen King! There's another one who likes to write about small-town writers having a plethora of attractive young groupies... Granted, Clint has gotten better throughout the years, but this movie just isn't up to par, especially for being a 70's flick. The woman who played Evelyn was great though.


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It's not really a romantic role. It's a suspense/shocker with a romantic angle.

The script was written by a woman called Jo Heims in the mid 60s and Clint had little or nothing to do with it. The Dave Garver character is actually based on a real person, I think from around the Monterey area. I can't be sure but it's on the DVD extras.

I have already outlined why it's a bit of a ground breaker and that makes worth a close look. To be honest, I think it can stand up to most scrutiny.

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Okay maybe i went overboard with the 4000 times better thing. But the fact is Fatal Attraction is a far superior film to this. Clint Eastwood is not much of an actor, never has been and never will be, and the brunette in this movie is pretty good for a B-movie chick. Compare that to Michael Douglas and Glenn Close. Then look at the script and the direction. It's just surprising to me I guess that F.A. is not more appreciated.

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But the fact is Fatal Attraction is a far superior film to this.


How is that a "fact"? It isn't a fact at all. It's a presumption on your part that you are right.

The most important part of this debate isn't your exaggeration: you are entitled to your opinion. The most important part is that it is your opinion and lots of people disagree with you.

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I've seen both films and, at best, Fatal Attraction is only 2,994 times better. Seriously, it's much easier to make a film of this type when you've got existing examples to work from (and attempt to improve upon), like the cast and crew of Fatal Attraction had with Play Misty For Me. PMFM was a groundbreaking film in its day.

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Thanks to the OP for his OPINION. Frankly, I can do without the boiling bunnies, fake pregnancy and kidnapped kids. I found PMFM a billion time more satisfying than FA. And Jessica Walter was better than Glenn Close. Plus John Larch was awesome.






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Jessica Walter seemed more true to life, like a real person. I like Glenn Close but her Alex character became a slightly cartoonish psychopath by the end of Fatal Attraction.

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Yeah, Larch was awesome!

Remember, he was the father of the little monster Anthony in the Twilight Zone ep "It's A Good Life" ("It's good that you did that, Anthony. Real good. And tomorrow....tomorrow's going to be a real good day!")

He was also Harry Callahan's CO in the first film (released the same year -- there's even a shot of a movie marquee that's showing PMFM!), before Harry's bosses were turned into evil caricatures or cartoonish buffoons.

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I like both films. But "Play Misty" is the better film thanks to the characters, the time frame, the shock values, and how the film calms down and then resets itself. Think of it as a roller coaster ride.

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"Play Misty for Me" is far superior to the more commercial, and more shallow, "Fatal Attraction". That's why it's rated higher.

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