Was looking forward to a good night in with a western but couldn't even finish it. What a load of crap. The writing was boring, Reed's character was a yawn (and his hat looked stupid.) Candace was a waste, Hackman was cardboard, the plot was predictable and the whole thing moved slower than molasses.
It really does point out how well the Eastwood westerns were done and how it isn't that easy to produce a good movie.
why does all stories have to take place in a half hr.or u get bored.man this is a build up of characters u dont do that in a few seconds. and in the end who really is the villian?yeah kind of bloody and very ruthless.
There is a difference between a crappy movie that wasn't written well, or directed well and one in which the characters are built up with interest. And your comment that "in the end, who really is the villain?" would be apprapos if that question really came at the end, but I knew that was the question from the first 1/2 hour.
I can't believe someone who believes the same as I do about Will Ferrell thinks this movie is very good. Oh wait, you were joking. Sorry didn't see that at first.
So what in the world drew you to The Hunting Party board? I can't believe you actually watched it.
I thought this movie was great. I thought Oliver Reed did a great job in his role. I also liked Mitch Ryan as Doc. FYI, supposedly there is going to be a remake of True Grit in 2011. It will be interesting to see how that turns out.
Filmed in Spain; westerns should be filmed in the locations of their stories. Not a fan of spaghetti westerns, even Clint's. Takes the authenticity right out of it. Anybody familiar with the west will recognize the lack of proper geology and flora.
"Filmed in Spain; westerns should be filmed in the locations of their stories. Not a fan of spaghetti westerns, even Clint's. Takes the authenticity right out of it. Anybody familiar with the west will recognize the lack of proper geology and flora".
Yawn. Never thought a xenophobe could be that picky.
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by mazaldivar (Wed Jun 9 2010 11:23:34) Yawn. Never thought a xenophobe could be that picky.
And you haven't thought it now. I've studied four languages besides English and lived abroad and in a dozen places in the US, including the southwest US. I don't like obviously wrong locations. And especially when the location is critical to the story.
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Apart from trying to impress us with your apparent linguistic resume which has no bearing what so ever on your original line of response.
by wilmawilcat (Mon Feb 15 2010 06:36:59) Filmed in Spain; westerns should be filmed in the locations of their stories. Not a fan of spaghetti westerns, even Clint's. Takes the authenticity right out of it. Anybody familiar with the west will recognize the lack of proper geology and flora.
by wilmawilcat (Sun Jun 20 2010 21:41:57) And you haven't thought it now. I've studied four languages besides English and lived abroad and in a dozen places in the US, including the southwest US. I don't like obviously wrong locations. And especially when the location is critical to the story.
Yet seems to only fortify mazaldivar point of response. I'll will try to excuse the fact that you probably weren't even interuteral when this project was created therefore you probably aren't aware of "Things that have changed since 1975", whereby making the later statement, a mute one.
Things that have changed since 1975 About 125,000,000 results http://www.google.com/search?q=things+since+1975&sourceid=ie7& rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=#hl=en&sugexp= ldymls&pq=things%20since%201975&xhr=t&q=things+that+have+c hanged+since+1975&cp=24&pf=p&sclient=psy&rls=com.micro soft:en-us%3AIE-SearchBox&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=things+tha t+have+changed+since+1975&pbx=1&bav=on.1,or.&fp=42ea6e12ed c6080
I'll use Texas locations as my template since it is primarily steer country and also since neither Dallas or Houston resembles what they once were in 1975. A lot has changed in the west ...have you every heard of a Caterpiller Inc. or an Earthmover. Those are the extremely large yellow vehicles that carve up the landscape so it looks the way the builders want it to look before settling in, thus rendering said landscape useless for period pieces. However since Spain is virtually untouch country, it is prime location for such westerns because of it's closest to natural terraferma ...past and present. Even New Mexico isn't the same anymore.
Things that have changed since 1975 in Texas About 24,700,000 results http://www.google.com/search?q=things+since+1975&sourceid=ie7& rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=#hl=en&sugexp= ldymls&pq=things%20since%201975&xhr=t&q=things+that+have+c hanged+since+1975+in+texas&cp=43&pf=p&sclient=psy&rls= com.microsoft:en-us%3AIE-SearchBox&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=t hings+that+have+changed+since+1975+in+texas&pbx=1&bav=on.1,or. &fp=42ea6e12edc6080
NICE TRY!!! wilma... Wow! You really impressed us with those language skills there... Perhaps next time you use that you offer up said skills in you're reponses they might carry more weight based on response to mazaldivar post, OP's original post or any line of discussion in here. As for the movie I really enjoyed it and didn't need any particular language skills to watch it.
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^ You don't speak for "us" or anyone but yourself. Look up "xenophobe," which the previous poster leveled at me.
After that if you are still mystified, here's a clue: my interest in a variety of languages and cultures indicates I am no xenophobe.
No model of Caterpillar moves Spain to the western hemisphere. If you can't tell the difference, that's your shortcoming. (If someone simply doesn't mind the difference, that's something else.)
It has nothing to do with your straw man, which goes up in flames, since I've been watching TV and movies since the 1950's.
I'm sorry, wilmawilcat but when taken out of context 'xenophobe' could mean what you think however in the purest most deepest definition Xenophobia is defined as "an unreasonable fear of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange.(NOTE: italics) therefore you're present defense of a WESTern hemipheric location over Spain might qualify YOU as such, based solely on the knowledge that no such location in the western US adequately suited to said purpose(s) of which film environs intended to portray although this ideology seems strange or foreign to YOU.
Therefore your statement
... my interest in a variety of languages and cultures indicates I am no xenophobe.
does not exclude you however can qualify you by its definition and mazaldivar's assessment thus having little or nothing to do with an afront to you... like it or not, If the shoe fits wear it.
As for my location synopsis and supporting commentary regarding said 'Caterpillar' in my defense for the inability to find a relavant or suitable location for the shooting of this film... in The US... in 1975. And to explain why such an area in the US does no longer exist in the Western Hemisphere.
Furthermore:
Spaghetti Western.net writes: "Shot in Spain, it not only picked up some misogynist tendencies from the Spaghettis, but also a Riz Ortolani score (which is a good compromise of classic and modernist influences) and some of the Almeria locations. I’m not an expert on these things, but according to Cigar Joe (2) some of the town settings of the The Mercenary were used, as well as the oasis, (Los Albiricoques?) from For a Few dollars More. I also recognized some rock formations and an often used S-shaped gorge near Almeria. (http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/The_Hunting_Party_Film/DVD_Review)"
Smokin' Guns writes: "But hey, while you're at it, check out the amazing scenery! Featuring what is easily some of the best location scouting of an American western, there's some great Spain dry riverbeds, open fields, and even forests that're used for the film that are some of the most memorable locations I've seen in a western. It was one thing that really took me by surprise, how amazingly vivid the locations appared through their cinematography. I know I was going gaga over the areas from Long Riders, too, but this is a much different type of look and one that really defines the film in a great way. I mean, granted, after seeing Long Days of Vengeance (which used the same dry riverbed), some impact is loss to me now, I can't let it get to me that much. Just look at the pics below (well, when I post'em, it's late here) and you'll see what I mean. (http://www.smokin-guns.net/viewtopic.php?t=855)"
So in continuance of aforementioned information readily avaiable online thus further supporting the relocating of any such western movie shoot to Spain, and with all the raw materials are readiy present and available whilst still no such location exist anywhere west of the Mason Dixon anymore, hence my Caterpillar of destruction on US terra ferma so expressly needed for a politically correct western. Nuf said
On a personal note I too have been watching TV since the 50s and my TV had rabbit eas too... so what does that have to do with this? I have also learned not to take to labeling too seriously, many problems are due to the misunderstandings or misusage of words, they can't hurt you unless you let them.
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^ Unsuccessful attempt to justify not using a US location: in the US there are "no dry riverbeds, open fields, and forests" to fill the bill as well as Spain. A load of old baloney and quoted from an individual who plainly admits to being no expert. Anyone familiar with flora and geology of the western US would be aware. They can film a Spaghetti -- but they're not filming a Western.
Ha ha -- expecting authenticity "might make you a xenophobe": not in this universe.
...going back to your original post, and since this was genred and billed as a 'Western' how do your following post make any logical sense.
I'll defend you right change your mind whenever you wish however changing tracks between posts doesn't sound intelligible. I was simply responding toward your post at hand and you've gone flip-flop on something entirely different only to end up at the exact same place. You seem to be accessing on a Spaghetti Western (which you dislike) whilst I was supporting a whole-hearted Western for which it was billed. And so in no way could this have been done in our Western states giving you your required terra and fauna however appropriate that may be ...Nor support your arguement with me.
BTW I watched TV in the 50s with rabbit ears too, however I've always listened up when the directors when they spoke about their cast choices and locations. IMDB isn't the only source for movie information. Other movie sites have very qualified staff with more supportive information with documentation.
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Aside from the cool rifles I thought it was kind of weak. As soon as you his wife was fishing for the sentimental good bye at the train I knew it would be about Hackman's character being evil. And course the ladies peeking through the window, letting you know he's as much of a dog as the bad guys. Very predictable.
Although I didn't expect a woman to fall for a bandit like that... only because peaches are very thirst quenching.
I thought it was a great concept that the plotting didn't particularly help. It's like they had a really great story to tell, but kept throwing such stupid stuff in there without balancing it out particularly well. If you're going to make a movie this totally bleak there needs to be some kind of leveling out.