Kisses girl
I was half watching this film and was wondering why Clint kisses the 12 year
old girl. Was he hallucinating or was he really attracted to her?
I took it that IF the soldiers passing DID see them there they would just dismiss it as a couple of lovers.
Marianne
It also kept her from calling out to the passing soldiers. He was a Yank soldier and she was a Southern young lady.
The kiss silences the girl. It also shows us from the very start that McB is a character willing to manipulate any female in whatever way possible to achieve his ends.
We are supposed to feel uneasy that he kisses a 12 year old in this way.
The unpleasantness of his character deliberately tempers the misogyny of the piece.
Excellent film.
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Ooh...she wasn't really 12, right? I mean the actress? Cuz that's just wrong.
shareYeah, the actress (Pamelyn Ferdin) was actually eleven during the shooting.
Also, Eastwood and Siegel didn't inform her of the forthcoming kiss, so her reaction was "pure."
Isn't that kinda...illegal?
shareSex with a girl that young is illegal; a kiss (especially for movie purposes) is fair game.
sharethe irony: back in those days, girls of 12 and 13 got married. so in modern standards, that kiss was a shock. but back then: amy and clint (with the turtle as a witness) could have wed. remember, this was the 1800s.
by SampanMassacre (Fri Feb 25 2011 09:21:17)
the irony: back in those days, girls of 12 and 13 got married. so in modern standards, that kiss was a shock. but back then: amy and clint (with the turtle as a witness) could have wed. remember, this was the 1800s
Ugh, I have enough of this male erotic fantasy that young girls were "fair game" back then in the goode olde days. Which also implies that the age of consent is arbitrary and actually neglectable.
Really the same argument comes from weird peadophilc pick up artists and men's rights activists: " back in middle age/stone age/ 1800, girls were married as young as.. ..so why are young girls off limts? not in my book they arent "
So after a bit of internet research:
the average age of marriage, taken from birthdates of women and marriage certificates reveals mean marriage ages of women to have been as follows:
1770-1837 25.1 years
during the 1500's the avg age for men was 26.1 and women 22.0 and during the 1900's the avg age for men was 25.9 and women 21.9
So yes, someone's grandparents might have married very young, but young marriages were probably on one end of the bell curve.
source:
http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/society/family/marriage .html;jsessionid=E8C911E675B8229A8D139157A4B98090 share
You are completely not getting it. There is nothing courtly going on here, and you should read the book to understand the villainy McB is working, here.
As for 'young girls' being fair game, just consider the US African American community, where 9 year old girls are sexually active. And the Latino community, where you have 34 year-old grandmothers, and 14 year-olds with 30 year-old boyfriends (the men consider the young teens "limpia" meaning "clean"). There is no fantasy for any normal man here, it is creepy and everyone on the board says so.
Save your outrage for an issue that actually needs some outrage, nobody is for pedophilia except pedophiles.
6 Years late or not: Bravo!
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