slow, slow and slow


i don't remember a movie which is as unnecessary long and disturbingly slow as Le Circle Rouge. i really thought that there was problems with editing this film. it was so slow, that i, for the first time in my life, played those parts of the film with double speed. it was like a torture. the film is actually a great film except those parts, however.

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"I don´t remember a movie which is as unnecessarily long and disturbingly slow as Le Cercle Rouge".

You have either very poor memory or seen very few films.

At any rate, there´s nothings unnecessary about its relative slowness.



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Its very slow. I dont mind movies which are deliberately paced as long as there are interesting characters and story but there are lots of scenes where there is nothing interesting happening dragging on for eternity.

There is virtually no character development. I didnt care for any of the characters or what they're doing because I didnt get to know any of them and didnt find any of them interesting.

The plot is also very simple and predictable. There are also lots of plot holes and flaws in logic and the ending is also very poorly done.

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The film's pace was nonchalant rather like the attitude of the men, the jazzy soundtrack and the minimal dialogue. I loved it.

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I have the feeling the OP really is conditioned by 'ackshun' movies with thrillz- a-minute. That's ok. But Jean Pierre's films are different. Viva la the JPM difference! Sometimes it's is in 'slowness' that the truths of the world are released. Like coffee, LCR is meant to be visually sipped. Much better than Starbucks kids..and besides you learn something about the world and what goes on when people go and lead their lives...Long live JPM...one of the greatest directors ..yes he had the 'slows'.....;-)....

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It's the only Melville film I've seen thus far so can't comment on his style. I find that complaints about slowness are as much a complaint about comprehension as pace. Slower films tend to show and imply more than tell or make explicit. This way of teling a story requires a lot from the viewer in terms of concentration and bringing their understanding to bear on characters and situations that are, typically, ambiguous. I need some akshun films myself every once in a while!

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This is such a pretentious post.

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I agree, it was painfully tedious. I love Army of Shadows but this just had nothing interesting going for it.

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all his films are slow. I just samarai and it put me to sleep. wont work in modern era.

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Only the robbery/heist scene was too slow, imo. It had 10 (!) minutes of just the two guys climbing on the roof and breaking in. With the preparation and the actual robbery it was something like 25 minutes altogether.

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The only problem I had with the editing is that there were a few jump cuts. For example where people enter a helicopter then you can tell they called cut and the next shot is the helicopter flying away.

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I agree and wondered why Melville had the scene at all if he was going to film it with such a sloppy edit. He wanted to show a couple of minutes of a helicopter landing and taking off but for some reason made two abrupt splices with no effort to camouflage them from the viewer. It was very amateurish for this accomplished director

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this wasn't uncommon back then.

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