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Top 5 most underrated Hitchcock films


Name your top 5 most underrated hitches

here is mine:

1 Rope (without a doubt the best of his films that are practically forgotten.)
2 The Trouble With Harry (Really funny and original, I never hear anybody
about this film)
3 Torn Curtain (Often considered as an inferior Hitch, but I think it's great.)
4 Marnie (Great Hermann score, people find this a bit overacted I believe, I
think Tippi Hedren does an oke job.)
5 Family Plot (All right I admit it isn't his best job, I still think it is an
entertaining piece of work.)

Please tell me what you think that Hitchcock's most underrated movies are.

And I am not talking about Rear Window, Vertigo, Psycho etc.
We all ready know how good these films are.

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Here, Top 5 most underrated Hitchcock films:

1. Frenzy - it may be one of his last films but there's so much experience in it, like this movie combines everything that Hitch has learned in his director's career.

2. The Wrong Man - people prefer if not to talk about it then to place it in lower parts of their shortlists. But IMO it's the scariest Hitch's film. Just scary as ordinary life can be.

3. Rope - much been said, but it certainly deserves to be in the hall of Hitch's fame.

4. Spellbound - the only scene made by Dali is cinema's golden heritage!

5. Foreign correspondent - wonderfully catches the atmosphere and suspence of pre-war Europe.

And now I would like to say about Hitch's most overrated film. It's certainly Vertigo. Don't ask why, you can check my opinion in my thread on Vertigo's page.

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To me, Alfred Hitchcock never made a bad film. It seems like after PSYCHO and BIRDS he was really criticized. But I loved TOPAZ (DVD VERSION is extended), MARNIE, FAMILY PLOT, TORN CURTAIN and the superb FRENZY very much. All are as worthy as anything he directed.


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Hello,
There are reasons of failure of Hitchcock movie like Torn Curtain at Box Office. Hitchcock actually never wanted to make Torn Curtain. He was forced to make this movie under the insistence of Universal Pictures. Hitchcock reportedly hated working with actor Paul Newman in this movie, because Paul Newman constantly questioning Hitchcock about the script and the characterization throughout filming.

There were other problems too like financial problems and several filming location changes. This movie also caused a huge conflict between Hitchcock and Bernard Herrmann. Executives of Universal Pictures didn't liked Bernard's score of Torn Curtain. So they ordered Hitchcock to ask Bernard Herrman to make a different score for the movie. This was unacceptable to Bernard Herrmann. This caused a huge conflict between Hitchcock and Bernard. And they never worked together again.

I did liked Torn Curtain. Still I don't think this is a classic.


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I dont understand why everybody forgot THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (remake)

I feel thats the most underated hitchcock movie.

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I didn't forget it. I think "Man" ('56) is probably the most underrated of Hitchcock's films. Beautifully shot, splendidly acted (Day is suberb, as is Bernard Miles, who stands as one of Hitch's all-time best villains.) I also love the suspense sequences in Ambrose Chapel and Albert Hall. These sequences are as well-edited as anything in the Hitchcock canon.
As for the full list, I choose:
"The Man Who Knew Too Much" (1956)
"Marnie" (Certainly one of Hitch's 10 best."
"Sabotage" (The best of his British films, expertly crafted and oh, so very dark... (the knife, the bus, the bomb!!)
"The Skin Game" (1931) So it's stagey and not anything Hitch was very enamoured with. It's still a very good adaptation of a worthwhile Galsworthy play and the cast is really fine. Edmund Gwenn is outstanding; the themes are very much worth exploring; and Hitchcock indulges his camera from time to time in a way that keeps the viewer on the alert.
"Topaz" The first two-thirds are excellent stuff; incisive in dealing with Cold War politics and the material is all beautifully shot. The film certainly does fall apart in the dreadful, dramatically underpowered final third, but I still think the film qualifies as underrated. "Topaz" may not be a masterpiece, but it rewards multiple viewings, none the less.

A few years ago, I too would have put "Rope" on my list of the underrated Hitchcocks, but I'm happy to report that I no longer feel the need to do this. The film's reputation is rising all the time, and it's always heartening to read here the comments of so many who realize precisely just how innovative and dramatically fascinating the film is. I think John Dall gives what certainly must be one the four or five finest performances in the entire Hitchcock filmography -- all in eight ten-minute takes, no less!

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SHADOW OF A DOUBT 1943
STRANGERS ON A TRAIN 1951
I CONFESS 1953
THE WRONG MAN 1956
SABOTEUR 1943

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I'm not sure I can make a list of Hitchcock's most underated films since I would need to see more of the more obscure Hitchcock pieces.
Nevertheless, I guess Marnie with 7.2 in the Imdb and usually "forgotten" as a strong hitchcock work, would deserve a litle more consideration since it has a really daring attitude, even though it can get a bit over the edge on the dramatic effect and acting.
The Rope is another movie mentioned by many as an underrated hitchcock movie. Well, I was a litle suprised to read this oppinion since I've often find critics, viewers and film promoters, placing it as one of the great Hitchcock's masterpieces. So I wouldn't considere it underated. After all 7,9 in the imdb scale is a good score, even though i must agree some extra points would be more fit for a movie that good and originally bold.
One last thing that left me dazzeld was the amount of persons that find torn curtain as a great, yet underated, hitchcock movie. The movie is awful! Maybe there are some good moments such as the murder scene, but the whole package is helpless! Such obvious and badly fitted pro west propaganda, such unbelivably febble and incoherent scenes - such as the "forced" scene of the mischieve of the german professor into revealing the information -, other even pathetic and stupid scenes - such as the "fire" yelling and panic scene; the Countess Kuchinska completely stupid overacted and infatile and unnecessary propaganda scene; and the unimaginative basket switching escape scene. On top of it all surpringly poor acting by Paul Newman, Julie Andrews, Lila Kedrova (Paul Newman is one of my favorite actors and one would expect a stronger performance). On account of all this, I must find Torn Curtain's 6,5 score to be, if anything, OVERrated.

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Ah Hitchcock, one of my all time favorite directors. I try very hard to watch every movie of his I can, whether it means buying them, watching via satellite or going to retrospectives.

My favorites (I know that wasn't the task) North by Northwest ("pay the $2.00"), Dial M, Saboteur, Rear window and the Man that knew too much. Orig version.

Now the top 5 under appreciated. Saboteur makes both lists. A classic. Stranger on a train, 39 steps, Lifeboat, Wrong man, and Topaz.

He is definitely a genius and no one else has come close to depicting the little guy, wrongfully persecuted, only to triumph in the end.

Its tough to come up with a definitive list....because so many of his movies impact us on a personal level....and thereby influence our preferences.

Doc

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underrated by who?

These lists are crazy. I have ones I like more and ones I like less, but 'underrated' (I think) means not talked about by the masses, and who cares what they think? They like Titanic, for god's sake. No, thanks.

Ratings are absolutely meaningless - everyone's numbers mean different things.

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3 underrated films from Alfred Hitchcock.

1) Suspicion (1941)
2) The Wrong Man
3) Lifeboat

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1. Stage Fright: It's forgotten by fans and critics. People hardly talk about this Hitchcock's masterpiece. It's an amazing film. The story still works even today. The flashback scene is wonderfully shot.

2. Rope: Another unsung film. According to directors guild, it's one of the master's best.

3. Marnie: Although a commericial and critical failure of its time, is now revealed as one of the best Hitch's movies.

4. The Wrong Man: A sad film depicting the harsh realities of life. Very uncharacteristic of Hitchcockian films.

5. Shadow Of A Doubt: Beyond any shadow of a doubt this remains his best work, accodring to Hitch himself.

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MINOR SPOILER WARNING

in no particular order

1. Rope
I started watching this on free to air television in the middle of the night (having seen it already) and said to myself 'I'll just watch until the first cut'. Ha! It grabbed me and never let go; I couldn't turn it off.

2. Dial M for Murder
Negligible as a work of art, but a brilliant piece of craftsmanship; even better in 3D. The trial scene alone is evidence of Hitch's genius.

3. Marnie
People say, 'oh, you can see the backdrops' etc; I wonder how many of them have seen it in a cinema, as I did recently. The things in this movie that look fake on your 26 inch television set don't look anywhere near as fake on the big screen. And it just happens to be a masterpiece.

4. Number Seventeen
Yes, that's right: NUMBER SEVENTEEN. Have you seen it? This movie probably *is* best watched on free to air television in the middle of the night. It's probably the earliest of Hitch's movies that remains genuinely entertaining, if you can enter into the spirit of it.

5. Young and Innocent
Nova Pilbeam is so young here, and so likeable on the screen. A very (pre-war) English movie, and it ends with one of Hitch's classic extended camera moves, probably the first of them: even though it's 70 years old it can still make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.

That's my five, but honourable mentions to The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956), Under Capricorn, and Rich and Strange.

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Yes!--Number 17-- It was really good! Especially that second half.
The other 4 underrated films would be: The Wrong Man (brilliant)
Frenzy
Under Capricorn
Family Plot

Honorable mention: Rope

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rope
to catch a thief
torn curtain
the man who knew too much
the birds

all are classics... yet few are mentioned in great film lists.

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I can't believe that there was only one mention to 'Young and Innocent', such a fast paced, romantic and at the same time packed with action, chills and british humour.

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the birds is not underrated

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Of all the Hitchcock films I've seen I'd say that Torn Curtain was my least favorite. However I am NOT saying its a bad movie. The murder scene is brilliant and would have been even better with the excellent Herrmann score. The acting is good but the screenplay gave them nothing to work with.
My List:
1. Man Who Knew Too Much (Great over all film that influenced future suspence films.
2. Rope (Purely genius psychological thriller that disturbs the mind more than the gore flicks of today. In a different way though.)
3. Marnie (Intense movie that shows Hitch wasn't slowing down in later years.)
4. The Trouble with Harry. (Great Dark comedy)
5. Torn Curtain

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