Movies Similar to Hud? - Hud (1963) Discussion

[–] perdido_ 19 years ago

I think The Last Picture Show has the same kind of feel to it.

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[–] WhiskeyWaters 19 years ago

There's a reason for that. Larry McMurtry wrote "Horseman, Pass By", the book "Hud" is based on. He also wrote the sequel (I think, it's a sequel at least) which is your "Last Picture Show" (both book and movie have the same name). "Texasville" rounds out the trilogy. I may be wrong on the trilogy. If I am, I err on "Horseman" being part of the trilogy, not there being one with the other two...

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[–] kiddglock 18 years ago

No, I don't think McMurtry would tell you it's a sequal. The reason they have the same look and feel is simply that the same guy wrote them, they deal with similiar issues and their location is the exact same place. "The Last Picture Show" was the first book of several with the same characters. "Texasville" was the sequal. The book "Duane's Depressed" rounds out that trilogy. McMurtry wrote "Leaving Cheyenne" about the same area also (north-central Texas just south of Wichita Falls). His books "Some Can Whistle" and "All My Friends Are Going To Be Strangers" also overlap into this area and some of the characters overlap-which is even true about "Terms of Endearment" and some of his others. He is very familiar with the area because he is from there and keeps a bookshop in the town of Archer City.

There are no more friendly civilians, sir.

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[–] w_lebeau69 17 years ago

NO,YOU ARE CORRECT IN YOUR ASSERTION...THAT THE LAST PICTURE SHOW WAS A SEQUEL TO HORSEMAN,PASS BY...HOWEVER,IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN,TEXASVILLE IS NOT THE THIRD PART OF THE TRILOGY...I AM NOT SURE OF THE TITLE,BUT IT IS SOMETHING LIKE,LEAVING ABELIENE...ALL THREE WERE NOVELLAS FROM THE EARLY SIXTIES...

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[–] sjl004 18 years ago

I agree

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[–] MIDDLEMYATT 19 years ago

Hey, I think "Some Came Running" -- with Frank Sinatra, Shirley Mclaine, and Dean Martin is a superb film classic, with a similar feel, too.

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[–] dylan7589 19 years ago

Another film written by Larry McMurtry, "Falling from Grace" is a lot like this. John Mellencamp directed it. "Hud" must have inspired his song "Lonely Ol' Night" which contains the lines "It's a lonely ol' night, but ain't they all..."

At one point in Hud, Lon remarks to Hud that "it's a lonesome old night."

"Yeah," replies Hud. "But ain't they all?"

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[–] teejay6682 19 years ago

other great paul newman "loser/jerk'' roles are "the hustler" and "the verdict".

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[–] asinyne 19 years ago

I thought paul newma, lee marvin film..pocket money...was sorta a sequel with hud a few years down the road...its a lighter film though

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[–] JaneDanton 19 years ago

was newman really a jerk/loser in hud? so he drinks, brawls and womanises...but so do a lot of people. and he wins his inheritance in the end.

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[–] kiddglock 18 years ago

Well that's the eternal question, and the heart of this film. Is said inheritence worth the selling out of one's principles? Homer and Lonnie allow as it isn't. Hud will always look good and will always steamroll the competition. But is it winning when the competition have chosen not to play?

I have come to chew bubblegum and kick asss...and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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[–] martin-fennell 18 years ago

Yes, but he's also left alone.
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[–] martin-fennell 18 years ago

Was he a loser in Hud? I would describe him as an illegitamate :)
The difference between Hud and the two movies you mention above, is that in Hud there is no moral redemption at the end.
The first time I saw this movie, I thought that he was the bee's knees.
It took me a few more viewings to see that I wasn't supposed to like this character.
In a way, the fact that Newman played him (albeit brilliantly) works against what the filmmakers were I presume)trying to achieve ie to show you that this character was totally without scruples and hey it isn't a good idea to emulate him.
Of course the obvious way to go would have been to have someone like Jack Palance or Lee Marvin playing him. So congratulations to the filmmakers for not going down the obvious path.
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[–] nash-43 18 years ago

Your correct about the song connection. Watch "Cool Hand luke" close, you'll find lines from it in "Rain On The Scarecrow"..Mellencamp also took lines from the "Harder They Fall'...He took over directing "Falling From Grace" I'm told, when the first director quit. Mellencamp also named one of his sons, Hud........I would guess he likes Newmans movies!....Brett(www.johnnytrash.com)

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[–] James_Bond_007_218 18 years ago

I think it all ties in with the "angry young man theme", shown in films like Look Back in Anger and Rebel Without a Cause. The young man, rebelling against society.

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[–] pamsfriend 18 years ago

Until the redemption at the end, the William Holden character in Stalag 17. In fact his Joe Gillis has the same qualities if you look at Sunset Boulevard from the point of view of an outsider.

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[–] MrPie7 18 years ago

So who was rebelling in Hud? Hud himself was bending the rules to join the "establishment" while Homer and Lon re-affirmed traditional moral values.

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[–] oklahomaman5 18 years ago

'Home From The Hill' with Robert Mitchum is very simular. Excellent movie BTW.

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[–] kiddglock 18 years ago

Splendor in the Grass and J.W. Coop.

I have come to chew bubblegum and kick asss...and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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[–] beatle1909 18 years ago

One word, Giant. Cattle v. oil. Oil wins. James Dean could have played Hud, wish he could had the chance.

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[–] MrPie7 18 years ago

IMHO Dean was way overated. Look at that silly performance in "Rebel". His face all twisted and weepy-eyed...."You're tearing me apart!" I think he studied at the Joel McCrea School of (over) Acting.

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[–] itwasmejoe-1 18 years ago

Check out Lonely are the Brave. I think you will love this film if Hud had an impact on you.

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[–] e-a-milliken 17 years ago

Thanks itwasme for the mention of "Lonely Are the Brave", a brilliant and overlooked film. Kirk Douglas plays a character who is the polar opposite of Hud--a decent and upstanding cowboy, and he gets steamrolled by the modern world for his pains. As to the question--if Hud got what he wanted in the end, how could he be a jerk/loser? That is the rational of amorality. Anyone who thinks acting in a moral way will make them rich and famous is seriously deluded (although our culture peddles this delusion endlessly). Morality is doing the right thing despite the material and temporal price you may pay; not to mention that society becomes a cesspool when everyone acts immorally. That immorality often comes in the guise of an attractive package (like Hud), is one of this movie's realistic insights.

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[–] Buddy-51 18 years ago

"Brokeback Mountain," another adult western co-written by McMurtry, is filmed very much in the style of "Hud" - stark and spare, with the vast landscape and the weather - particularly the wind - playing an integral part in the drama. Its setting is also very similar, the modern west.

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