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Anybody else bugged by Harvey's terrible American accent?


The most annoying flaw of this film (Sinatra's poor acting a close second) was Harvey's American accent or lack thereof. It was so fkn distracting. Another thing that bugged me was Silva as an Asian? LMAO. Absolutely laughable. I know they hired real Asians in movies back then. WTF? Anyways the strong points of the film far outweight the shortcomings and I have enjoyed the film over and over again over the years.

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i read, i think, that they were hoping his accent would pass for upper-crust east coast. there was something about him the producers really liked but I can't remember what it was.

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there was something about him the producers really liked but I can't remember what it was.


Don't get me wrong. Besides the poor accent the rest of his acting was spot on. Harvey was a good actor. He wasn't a great actor. IMO to be a great actor you have to be able to pull off accents.



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I agree his performance was really good other than the accent. It's sad when people can't do accents. I just saw a movie called the Children of Huang Shi, with Jonathan Rhys-Myers and Radha Mitchell, and it would have been a decent film except for Mitchell's total inability to maintain an American accent.

Not exactly on topic but god it was annoying.

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Not exactly on topic but god it was annoying.

Actually you are right on topic. The topic is bad accents in movies. Funny thing is usually English, Irish, and Australian actors are better at pulling off the American accent than vice versa. I often question whether or not the Brits are just better actors over all or whether the American accent is just easier to imitate. I'm an American so I cannot tell. I do know it is awfully hard to maintain an believable English accent whether it be proper English or cockney. There are just SO many words they say differently than we Americans you are bound to slip up.

A couple of examples of American actors doing good English accents are Johnny Depp in just about anything he did that required an English accent and more recently Peter Dinklage on HBO's Game of Thrones which I highly recommend by the way.


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I haven't seen Peter Dinklage in that, I'll have to wait till it's on DVD.

I like Johnny Depp and his accents, but I always wonder how authentic they sound to an English person. Same question about Gwyneth Paltrow.

Yeah, usually the Brits and Aussies etc. can do a great American accent. I like to think it's easier to go that direction than the other, that is, there's something about American vowels that are just easier than English vowels???

There are a few English actors who can't consistently keep an American accent, including the adorable Alan Rickman, sad to say.

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I have to agree. Alan Rickman can't do American accents.

It wasn't only Harvey with a British accent in the movie, you must rememeber. Angela Lansbury spoke in her own accent too. She's British.

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I hear the English still haven't forgiven Dick Van Dyke for his very bad English accent in "Mary Poppins"

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Who did the casting on this movie.??? Doesn't make any sense. Whats with the foreign actors portraying Americans. Harvey and Angela Lansbury. there were hundreds of American actors that could have played these roles. For some reason someone wanted British accents.I still believe Frank Sinatra had something to do with this production. Even though they don;t show him as executive producer or Producer.somehow he obtained the distribution rights. In those days all kinds of deals were made without any publicity. How did Alexrod and Frankenheimer end up as Producers on the credits.

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Dinklage's British accent was atrocious. He is a great actor when he just uses his natural North American accent, but he can't do a British one: that's such a strange example for you to pull.

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His whole persona was a performance - he wasn't even an Englishman, but a Lithuanian Jew raised in South Africa.

I don't know why he couldn't pull it off in this film, but he had done a perfect American Southern accent in "Walk on the Wild Side" with Jane Fonda, "Summer & Smoke" and a passably good Texas twang in "The Alamo" w/ John Wayne. Maybe what threw him was the bland standard American accent.

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Laurence Harvey's performance was fine by me. His accent was not an issue. He was a movie actor, and young though he was, a seasoned one; and he got the job done. If he had tried for an American accent I doubt that it would have worked anyway, as he was known to be British (albeit South African born), and he was already a well known international player, if not a superstar. It was okay for the time, and that's what works for me. I found him credible in The Alamo, from a couple of years earlier, in which he also played an American, also an unlikeable fellow who yet did the right thing in the end, though not conflicted about it.

The Manchurian Candidate was so well made, first rate down the line, some offbeat casting (Sinatra, Henry Silva) didn't hurt it much. It was all part of the film's scheme, with unreality in play, people not being what they seem, not meaning what they say, much of the time anyway; director John Frankenheimer aced it with his expert direction. That some things about this movie are "off', don't feel quite credible, works for me in making it come alive. Some scenes and characters might have been better written, notably James Gregory's Joe McCarthy based senator, too obviously a jerk, and also in too obviously channeling McCarthy in some of his phrasing. John McGiver's senator was a bit too good to be true, and also a composite of in his case many real life political figures of the time (1962) the film was made. All criticism aside, the film is an American classic.

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Yes. I could not understand how a Korean War Miltary Officer,who wins the Congressional Medal Of Honor.is Ordering troops in battle with a Drawing Room English accent. I still believe Frank Sinatra had something to do with Lawrence Harvey getting this role. Also I thought Frank had bought the rights to this project he was the one calling the shots the credits show Frankenheimer,Alexrod,and some other writer as Producers, Also how did Nancy Sinatra get rights to second movie with Denzel Washington?

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Yes. I could not understand how a Korean War Miltary Officer,who wins the Congressional Medal Of Honor.is Ordering troops in battle with a Drawing Room English accent. I still believe Frank Sinatra had something to do with Lawrence Harvey getting this role. Also I thought Frank had bought the rights to this project he was the one calling the shots the credits show Frankenheimer,Alexrod,and some other writer as Producers, Also how did Nancy Sinatra get rights to second movie with Denzel Washington?

How is that hard to figure out? Frank likely left them to her or she bought them from his widow & her stepmother , Barbara. The rights reverted to Frank Sinatra in 1972. (from the trivia section)

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I really believe Frank Sinatra liked this guy. So he must have had a lot of influence on the producers, I think Frank wanted this project,he wanted that role of Major Bennett Marco, so he put this project together. The casting seems odd. Janet Leigh as a Friend ,girl friend. seems silly, she just met him on the train like a week ago. She leaves her "finance" the same night she met Frank ,give me a break. I liked John Frankenheimer,he directed Black Sunday,Seven days in May,a lot of other movies I never heard of.Explain to me how major Marco gets in a fight too the death with Henry Silva,"Chunjin" and nothing ever happens to either person. like it never happened. Chunjin is back serving Lawrence Harvey Champagne and Major Marco is drinking with him. All has to do about "brainwashing" with the Queen of Spades. Lawrence Harvey walks into Central Park lake in middle of winter. I still like this weird ,strange movie. I watched the Manchurian candidate II ,I believe Nancy sinatra still has the rights to the property !

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It most certainly did bother me. And I agree with you, it's the most irritating and obvious flaw of the film. The whole film I just kept thinking why does he speak in a fake British accent?


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I suppose it's possible that his mother was English originally. Uppercrust East Coast,as someone else said. What I wondered was-how much did Iselin know about his wifge's activities?He knew about the plot to shoot Arthur -but did he know about his wife's being a Communist agent? And what if they'd got away with it?Mrs.Iselin said that she would take revenge on the Reds so...

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I've seen this movie 3 or 4 times and still wonder why they used a British actor to play the part of Raymond Shaw. Surely there were enough American actors to choose from. I spent 20 years in the military and can't remember a single British G.I. A few Germans but none British. Another example was Max von Sydow playing the part of an American M/Sgt in "The Brass Target."

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There is a faux British accent that is or was common among the upper crust of society. Actually, you can still here it in some places. There's an Episcopal church in Gergetown DC led by a female pastor who has the same accent although she has always lived in the DC area.

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It bothered me too. Not a good casting choice.






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His accent was just bad. It was to the point where I wonder if he was even trying to pass as an American. It's as bad as when I saw Frankie Avalon playing a British teen in a 1971 Horror film where he doesn't seem to even attempt to come off as a british teenager but rather a middle aged Frankie Avalon.

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Yeah, but he rocked as the Potato Bug in "Bikini Beach."

Well ... at least it's fair to say he made an attempt to sound British.

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I agree 100% Awarded Medal of Honor for leading his troops in battle in Korea speaking Proper drawing room English. He gets captured by North Korea,they get "brainwashed" by Russian or Red Chinese or North Korean secret agents.They get released.Major Bennett Marco is the only captured solider not brainwashed and he was in charge.It gets better.Major marco meets Janet Leigh on a train,and she decides to leave her "fiance" for Major Marco even though he is arrested for beating Henry Silva the same day.

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To cut him some slack:

Laruschka Mischa Skikne, Laurence Harvey, was born and lived in Lithuania until he was five. He then moved to South Africa and then moved to England after the war...so he had to master two foreign accents since the age of five.

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Laruschka Mischa Skikne, Laurence Harvey, was born and lived in Lithuania until he was five. He then moved to South Africa and then moved to England after the war...so he had to master two foreign accents since the age of five.


Uh, yeah, that's nice he's an ACTOR. It's his job to pretend he is from the United States. On the other hand many "actors" of the time never even tried to pull off accents.


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''Uh, yeah, that's nice he's an ACTOR. It's his job to pretend he is from the United States. On the other hand many "actors" of the time never even tried to pull off accents.''

I am not sure how this is a relevant reply to my comment. I am not criticizing him and I am in fact pointing out that he is technically doing an accent anyway, whether he just sounds English or not, because he grew up in Lithuania and South Africa.

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"On the other hand many "actors" of the time never even tried to pull off accents".

So you´re saying that if an actor doesn´t try to "pull off accents", or does so poorly, he or she ceases to be an actor and instead becomes an "actor" ie an amateur failure?

And why would such a relatively minor flaw in authenticity bother anyone so much, anyway? It´s not like he´s speaking like an Australian or a Scot; it more or less passes for an East Coast upper crust American accent.



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So you´re saying that if an actor doesn´t try to "pull off accents", or does so poorly, he or she ceases to be an actor and instead becomes an "actor" ie an amateur failure?


It actually seems to be a sign of the times rather than a measuring of the actor's caliber. He most likely was instructed by the director to not speak with an American accent.

I never said that the actor would be an "amateur failure" if he could not pull off an accent (did I? Been so long since started this post). However I firmly believe that no actor can be considered great if they are not able to pull off a convincing accent. They can be considered good but never great IMHO.

And why would such a relatively minor flaw in authenticity bother anyone so much, anyway?

It's a quirk of mine. It's hard for me to immense myself in a movie where the character is supposed to be an American soldier and he sounds like Jeeves bringing the tea and crumpets.



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I like Harvey, but his accents were often a little off: for example, see his wonky Lancashire accent in Jack Clayton's "Room at the Top".

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I like Harvey, but his accents were often a little off: for example, see his wonky Lancashire accent in Jack Clayton's "Room at the Top".

I can't even pretend to know how exactly a Lancashire accent is supposed to sound like. I would have imagined that it would have been easier for him to pull one of those off than an American accent. I've noticed more and more that they really didn't concern themselves too much with authenticity back in the days.

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"I can't even pretend to know how exactly a Lancashire accent is supposed to sound like. I would have imagined that it would have been easier for him to pull one of those off than an American accent. I've noticed more and more that they really didn't concern themselves too much with authenticity back in the days."

ROOM AT THE TOP was groundbreaking in the sense that it was the first British fictional film in which the character spoke with a working class accent not from the South East of England (ie, not from London), which was a big deal at the time. Thus it's such a shame that Harvey's accent in the film was all over the shop. Luckily, only a year or so later Karel Reisz's SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY MORNING showed a little more 'authenticity' in its use of Northern working class accents.

For a 'real' Lancashire accent, check out Jane Horrocks in LITTLE VOICE :)


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So would a Lancashire accent sound like the way Ozzy Osbourne sounds like?

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Not quite. Osbourne's got a Birmingham accent :)

Other Lancashire-accented public figures include the comedians Victoria Wood and Peter Kay. George Formby had a Lancashire accent too.

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Man, it's crazy how there is so many distinct accents in England and you guys are relatively all squished together!

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