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HIDDEN MESSAGE OF LOLITA'S ENDING


Kubrick's Lolita has a hidden genius ending that highly contrasts the appeared ending. The ending of Lolita appears to be the same beginning scene of Humbert killing Quilty but ending with a cut after Humbert calls for Quilty's name. However, the hidden fact is that the beginning scene and the ending scene are not the same. The two scenes were filmed differently, watch the film again if you are not convinced. Kubrick could have easily copied and pasted the beginning scene to the end and cut it when Humbert calls for Quilty's name, but he doesn't. Kubrick uses two different scenes to show one dream and one reality. The beginning scene of Humbert killing Quilty is a future dream of Humbert's and the ending scene is the reality. The ending leaves Humbert without Lolita and without finding Quilty. It is deeply beautiful. My explanation to why Humbert was dreaming in the beginning scene is below.

If you analyze the film, you will see Humbert basically act the same scene out but in reality he doesn't. In the ending scene the chair Quilty was sitting in is covered in a different fashion, he doesn't string the harp and he calls out Quilty's name at different timings. First, the covering of the chair is significant because the beginning scene can clearly make out a body and also has a beer bottle resting on the Quilty’s head. In contrast, the ending scene has a sheet on the chair that can not clearly make out an entire body and has a beer bottle resting at the lap of the chair. This shows that Quilty was not present at the end, which is supported by the beer bottle clearly showing Quilty's body. Second, the stringing of the harp in the beginning scene, in comparison with not stringing it in the end, hints that Humbert is in a dream. Third, the difference in the timing of the shot is significant because Kubrick carefully edits the ending frame so that Humbert is covering up the chair Quility is supposed to be sitting in and fades out the film to an end. This is significant because Kubrick is trying to subliminally show the audience that Humbert did not find Quilty.

The epilogue does say Humbert dies during the trial of his murder of Quilty, but I believe Kubrick puts that in there to misdirect the audience to the actual ending. He is a genius. The epilogue is read over the shot painting that he supposedly shot Quilty through. This is really important because the same painting was shown in both the beginning and ending scene as Humbert enters the house. Also the painting represents Lolita who is a liar and Kubrick is trying to tell the intelligent audience that he is lying about Humbert killing Quilty. In addition, the beginning scene is followed by Humbert narrating, showing the beginning of reality. The ending scene leaves Humbert calling for Quilty but getting no response, showing that he did not end up finding Quilt and obviously did not end up with Lolita.

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doesn't make sense

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Its a very interesting theory.. The one major point you have is that the wine bottle or whatever, is definitely not there the second time around.. However the major point for the opposite side is in the ending, in that Humbert was tried for murder.. Its tough, could the bottle on the chair just be a goof? But then again, why wouldnt Kubrick just use the same scene both times? tough call...

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I'm a Kubrick fan, but I think he gets more credit than he probably deserves RE: controlling every little detail in his films. And this one is arguably before he started doing that kind of thing. I haven't watched the beginning scene and ending scene again, but I'm sure Kubrick filmed every shot numerous times, and simply used a different take to make it interesting. I don't think Kubrick is above making a decision because it 'felt' right. No intellectual motivation needed. And it's the echoing of the first line, as others have said. Then the end credits tell us that Humbert was put on trial for Quilty's murder. Seems like an open and shut case.
I have to say I found this film quite strange. Sellers was obviously improvising a lot, and it didn't seem to fit with such a serious story. My immediate reaction to that first scene was "is this a comedy?" Like Kubrick didn't want to stop the great Peter Sellers from giving his all. Probably out of respect for his talent, but it seemed to be at odds with the the film.

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joneekemp, I thought the same as you only not as nice...it's the bane of movies--stars so big or popular/powerful that for whatever reasons, they destroy the art and work of writers and directors for their own reasons. I was pretty young when I read and loved to death BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES. Casting Bruce Willis, an ego without a brain, ruined what could have been a great movie. Tom Hanks was in pretty great movies. Willis finally found a genre that made the movie just about him, and has done fine there.

Peter Sellers similarly was even greater when his movies were just about him. But here he added dumb stuff that actually told us info the opposite of what the movie was trying to tell us. I think Quilty was supposed to have gone similarly insane from desire and longing for Lolita as had Humbert, someone who drove men crazy, was extremely selfish, incapable of giving anything, just always searching out weaknesses and capitalizing on them. The men gave their all to posess this illegal love, and the stress of it all ate them alive, but she used their suffering to make them hurt more. Gratuitous pain.

Could they have commisserated together?

Not when one man is the kind of crazy in European masterpieces such as King of Hearts, instead of the other's dark personal destructiom and dimentia of watching your career, personality, life and any hope of ever loving her lost over your illegal devotion to such a cold-hearted hateful shrew.

She destroyed both and set them at each other. This apparent sweet and innocent girl. And she felt no remorse. What they did was wrong but they seemed capable of remorse. Esp Humbert who gave her the money from her mother's home after she rejected him and blasted him for daring to cry.

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It was in many ways a dark and tragic comedy. Suggest maybe watching again with new eyes. There are a lot of subtle lines and looks, such as the "Cherry pies" (why Humbert changed his mind about renting). There's a number of other examples. It's not LOL humor, but it's nod/wink, tongue in cheek. It's certainly not a very serious movie.

And Kubrick most definitely was obsessive. There's videos showing him arranging the Tang and other canned/dry goods in the shining. This should have been work for an intern. Maybe he was less obsessive during Lolita for all we know though. It is an interesting theory and it makes no sense that he reshot the final scene. I haven't watched it for a good year, but I remember seeing the differences, probably after reading this thread when it was still on IMDB.

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In the early 1960's film-makers naturally had no inkling that future members of the general movie-viewing public would have devices at home allowing them to analyse a movie frame by frame. Films were almost exclusively shown in theatres and drive-ins, and unless you had the time and finances to view it repeatedly in theatres, you generally had one shot at viewing a film. When the film went off the theatre circuit, then that was it; unless you had your own projector at home, which few people had in those days. Yes, it was possible to rent a projector plus film, but costs were high and watching movies at home was not a notable feature of suburban culture. Neither were projectors as easy to operate as a DVD player or computer software today. All of that only changed when the video players and Beta/VHS formats came along.

The point being, films were largely produced for a single viewing in those days. (I know, as I'm old enough to remember those days.) It is easy to suggest now that Kubrick would deliberately insert starts and endings with barely detectable changes to those scenes - changes that you too only observed by having the facilities that enables you to scrutinise every frame and make those comparisons - also expecting that the "intelligent viewers" of 1962 would notice and understand such minute changes in the background and soundtrack with a single viewing. I am sorry, but any such notions are far-fetched when you consider the year that the movie was released.

Please click on 'reply' at the post you're responding to. Thanks.

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That does cross my mind, but Kubrick films are definitely not one-time viewing films, whether what you say is true or not, though I do feel his slow pacing and long cuts are there for you to take note of things

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I'm not sure about these conclusions, but there does seem to be some direction to being more to the story by having two scenes filmed. The beer bottle on Quilty's head is especially strange. Also in the second version the the harp isn't played the soundtrack plays a scale similar to a harp strum right after it should be played as if to say 'didn't you notice something missing'. The paintings i'm sure are met to represent Lolita, particularly as there are two.

Perhaps Lolita had already killed Quilty and was directing Humbert there to frame him, and the first filming is her version of events for the trial? I'm not sure?

The repetition of Charlotte Haze's gun is curious also.

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Or Humbert is deliberately taking the fall for Lolita. He gave her his money and he seemingly has nothing left to live for. He's also got the Karma for the inadvertent "killing" of the mother.

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You are right as far as Quilty is seen as an alter ego doppelganger of HH in literature. Quilty spells "guilty" as the alter ego HH can punish for his own actions. Therefore no Quilty, no murder. HH died in jail awaiting punishment for killing her mother.

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But... he didn’t kill her mother, she got hit by a car.

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Nah, he probably just wanted to fade the film out and the first presentation of the scene didn’t lend itself timing-wise or visually to a clean fade.

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TLDR version pls

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