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Anyone make it past the opening?


I fell asleep during the opening. To me this whole movie was a bunch of orchestral hits, a screen that would slowly change colors, and a bunch of random vertical black lines.

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So far, no one has mentioned the reason for that part of the film.

Roadshow movies (exclusive reserved-seat premiere engagements) usually had an overture, whether or not the movie was a musical. It would play with a black screen, and the curtains would be closed. Roadshow presentations were usually strict about the exhibition, like when the lights would go down, when the curtain would open, etc.

70mm Roadshow prints of West Side Story had 6-track sound, with some of the speakers behind the screen (I guess two or four?). So at one point before or during production, Robert Wise asked, "Can we have the curtains open for the overture so that the sound isn't muffled by the curtains?" and he was told that the curtains couldn't be opened unless there was some visual being projected, and that's why he had Saul Bass design that sequence with the abstract image of Manhattan (which looked so exciting and modern at the time).

So, if Robert Wise hadn't minded the slightly muffled sound of the overtures of other roadshow movies, then the West Side Story overture would have played with the curtains closed and no one would pay it much attention, and then it would probably never have been heard again until the advent of DVDs, where you usually have the roadshow overture presented with some visual on the screen.

When people watch Doctor Zhivago on DVD, or How the West Was Won or whatever, do they get impatient with that section in the same way? Do they skip it? Is it different because usually that visual on the DVD says OVERTURE throughout the whole thing (and INTERMISSION and EXIT MUSIC, if those are included also). I just don't see how West Side Story on DVD is any different from those.




I don't know if it's "really wacky," but your French is coming along.

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Please take note that neither mr_x350 nor irishm have ever returned to this thread after leaving their moronic comments. Hopefully, they've eloped, and are spending their honeymoon playing video games.

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<<That's probably true, trufflesandme because most young people nowadays are interested in watching films in which there's constant exploding on the screen, which is what sells among this generation.>>

So true, friendoffilm, and more's the pity. I just watched it on my local PBS station, and it was as thrilling to watch, for about the tenth time for me, as it was the first. I did have that exact thought as I was watching it this evening, to wit, could a millennial sit through this and appreciate and acknowledge what a tremendous film this is?? I am so glad I was born when I was - I don't have the attention span of a flea and find most material these days to be nothing less than rank garbage. There's nothing to be done and it's this generation's loss.

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Good points, johnmike1959! Your points are well taken, and I thank you for that.

One big part of the problem is that Hollywood has long since run out of creative ideas, and trash sequels/remakes of films, and/or films where there's constant overly graphic violence and constant explosions on the screen are the results of today's lack of creativity on the part of Hollywood.

As a person who first saw the film version of West Side Story at around Christmastime of 1968, as a high school Senior, I fell in love with this great classic that first time, have not lost my love of this film, and almost never miss an opportunity to see a screening of West Side Story, either in an independent film theatre in my area, or by making special road trips to neighboring states to see it!

West Side Story is one film that I never tire of seeing over and over again.

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Go watch spectre or any other new movie

Leave the classics to those whom appreciate them

STFU

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I happen to like the Classic films, especially West Side Story, which is my all time favorite film, hands down. Spectre doesn't sound like the kind of movie that I'd be interested in, so why don't you STFU?!?

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