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Could this show be Revived.


I guess the chances of it is a BIG FAT ZERO ever since the failure of Brian Clemens The New Avengers.
Plus, all the actors are too old and most of the writers are dead. In essence, its now a memory.
However, Doctor who had lesser challenges and was revived beautifully (Not really in my opinion, only Matt Smith has really given us the feeling of Classic Doctor who, despite the soap opera element of it being a mainstay)

However, could it be revived by ITV or BBC? Could they bring back Steed and his partners? Could they revive it by giving it some new life in the 21st century?

The problem is, should we do a Reboot or should we do a continuation.
If i were to write the treatment it would go like this

John Steed, while not a code name, becomes one. We see a younger steed who had similarities but HARSH differences. Almost like the bond code name fan theory. This boy could be related to steed in some way. Who says he needs to 20-30? Why not make him 40? THis new steed could be a son, or a protege. However, that would mean we would have to give a reason why Steed would give up his name. Perhaps a Macnee Cameo would do the trick.

The Origin would be how the amateur partner (Dr. David Keel, Purdey update) meets Steed and eventually is brought into the world of British Espionage. The inciting incident is that the enemies now have his adress and he will have to live in fear. However, the agency can give him indirect training and support
the problems in the story could range from the enemy killing something meaningful like friend, lover (like in Hot Snow) or wiping out his life.

The series will end when said enemy has resources destroyed and good men/sub-prime (recurring but loved characters) as well as one Main character die, or are written out. The conclusion is that Amateur partner has AVENGED his setbacks, and can now breathe free.

Series 2 can then start off with a new threat and new partner.

Thats just me, please critique and contribute whether the Avengers can be revived

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Doctor who changed very well. The Hartnell/Troughton era was quite 1950s/60s science fiction, Pertwee was similar to the avengers and the 80's doctor exemplified the 1980s.

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I suppose theoretically it could be done but in my opinion it would be virtually impossible to re-create the elements that made the original so successful. It would probably have to be set in the modern era and most of the TV viewing public have different values to the original so it would have to be completely different to appeal to them (i.e. they would probably expect graphic violence, sex and bad language, or at least that's what current TV producers seem to think we want).

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If there is a revival it couldn't be any worse than the ghastly movie version with Fiennes & Thurman...

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Doctor Who also had a Doctor who could regenerate with the times for different effects.

They tried bringing Steed out of the 1960s, and The New Avengers was an abysmal failure. They tried bringing Steed and Peel into the 1990s, and it was an unmitigated disaster. Thurman and Fiennes should still be apologising.

This show embodies the 60s. Trying to take it out will fail. Leave it where it belongs, we'll have our re-runs and Macnee's books.

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If a reboot of "The Avengers" were to ever happen, the studio big wigs and network execs would most likely restart the show from the Emma Peel era which was the series biggest selling point and the one that most viewers remember. To kick things off with two guys wouldn't hold a lot of appeal for viewers. Besides very few people remember the origins of the original series and have always associated the show with a man and a woman fighting crime along side each other as equals.

Plus as you mentioned in your post, to have a character who goes through a tragedy, then gets tranformed as a result, becomes a crime fighter and get replaced by someone else after one season is a big risk to take especially if viewers get attached to the person

Which brings me to the next point. "The Avengers" kick started the whole man and woman crime fighting duo which many other shows have since replicated - "Hart to Hart", "Remington Steele", "Scarecrow & Mrs King", "Moonlighting", "The X Files" etc so trying to find a fresh spin on something that has been done and done and done would be very difficult.

The original show as mentioned by others was very much a product of it's era. Not just the look and the clothes but the attitude and style. Violence was kept to a minimum, blood was seldom seen, sex and swearing was non-existent and witty banter was the order of the day. I'm not sure if audiences today could take to something that light-hearted or surreal. We've very much in an era where viewers want meat and substance from their programs. They want to see characters break down and explore the faults and flaws in their personalities.

"The Avengers" took careful steps not to delve into the lives of it's main characters and what made them tick. Character development was ignored (which was true of many shows from this era). They were flawless crime fighters who cracked open the champagne at the end of every episode.

To reboot the series for today's audience would require a major rethinking of the show and altering it to suit the mindset of today's television audience. You could do but it wouldn't be "The Avengers", at least not the classic version anyway......

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The original show as mentioned by others was very much a product of it's era. Not just the look and the clothes but the attitude and style. Violence was kept to a minimum, blood was seldom seen, sex and swearing was non-existent and witty banter was the order of the day. I'm not sure if audiences today could take to something that light-hearted or surreal. We've very much in an era where viewers want meat and substance from their programs. They want to see characters break down and explore the faults and flaws in their personalities.



You may be right about about what audiences want but I'm not quite so sure as there are often complaints about the degree and explicitness of contemporary productions. Whilst it does appeal to some, I believe that people are getting increasingly turned off by it and it's only depicted because producers/directors think the majority expect it, When scanning the TV guide, if a programmme has a warning that it contains 'strong language/extreme violence/sex/gore' etc I don't even bother to watch it (though It could be that I'm just getting old !!! ).

I certainly agree with the rest of your post and could not have put it better myself.

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Whilst programs like "Game of Thrones", "True Blood", "Sons of Anarchy", "The Sopranos" & "Dexter" have upped the sex and violence level that has never been seen on television previously, these shows are hugely popular with audiences. I wouldn't say people are tired of them. Quite the contrary. They are very much in demand......

However we also are in an era where viewers like to explore the faults and flaws of it's leading characters. "Mad Men", "Ray Donovan", "Nurse Jackie" etc show people frequently making mistakes in their lives.

"The Avengers" by comparsion showed smart, witty people living exciting lives and exhibiting no faults or fears and everything always ended up in their favour. That light hearted, devil may care, surrealism may not resonate with today's audiences who expect a level of realism from their shows.......

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It would seem like it had to remain within the Cold War era of the early-'60s or so, that twilight zone era when the world was on the brink of self-destruction and everybody knew it.

And even though the basic style of the '98 film (including the Teddy Bear conference) was TOTALLY like the old series, what made the Peel/Steed years most peoples' favorite was, in fact, the chemistry --- intelligence, warmth and charisma.

Those things are hard to come by, let alone symbiotically, in any era, but in today's Film Industry, I dont think anyone even knows what they are....



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Why should they?

Why is it was so many of you even want that to happen?

It's stupid.

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It would never work in today's loony PC world.
"Steed" would by black and Gambit gay.



Besides,,,,,,,,,,afrer a good the start The New Avengers totally lost its way when they started setting them in Canada.

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I'm not sure what your fear of seeing people who aren't white or straight (exactly like you, I'm guessing?) has to do with this TV show. Please keep your comments on target. I didn't come here to read this junk.

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Doubtful, judging from the movie in the 90s that bombed. Personally I didn't think it was as horrible as some did. The problem was they went for the campy, but failed in the chemistry between Steed and Mrs Peel. I'm guessing it was a prequel of sorts, but it failed abysmally with the die-hard fans and they were the only ones going to see it.

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Of course it could be revived... Revived in a not-crappy way, well, that's more of a challenge.

One of the (many, many) reasons I love the original is the lack of soap opera. While that's simply part of television at the time-- there wasn't any romantic subplots in Dragnet-- modern TV is incapable of letting platonic relationships exist. Scully and Mulder had to eventually fall in love, same thing with Bones, Moonlighting, Fringe etc etc. These subplots are usually the beginning of the end for these shows. If The Avengers was revived, laying out a couple etched-in-stone rules at the beginning might keep it from being crap. "The leads flirt, but that's as far as it ever goes." Steed and Peel flirted like mad. But there wasn't any sense of boiling, tumultuous, repressed sexual urge. They were coworkers, partners, professionals. They trusted each other and respected each other, and that can be a much more interesting relationship to watch (and to write and develop) that the TV-standard "oh but when are they gonna 'do it?'"

The Steed & Peel combination was excellent, but I agree that the "Bond" codename idea isn't appropriate. A similar-but-different-approach? An older woman, a seasoned operative, working with a younger fella? And let's just skip the tired old "I don't think you can hack it but you may gradually earn my grudging respect" bit. John Steed knew Emma Peel could handle herself. She was a pro! The older agent respects the younger. Its not like they weren't vetted and trained. Look to the relationship between Inspector Lewis and his DS, Hathaway. Lewis may not get all of Hathaway's personal inclinations, but he knows he's good at his job, and lets him do it.

The Avengers were, in a more contemporary description, domestic anti-terrorist agents. They didn't fly to war zones, they defended Britain from internal threat. And a lot of those threats were goofy. The original series was exciting, thrilling, and fairly light at the same time. More serious than Batman, less gritty than 24. Here's hoping a reboot wouldn't involve unshaven pretty boys grimacing and threatening ambiguously ethnic thugs. Let them fight a spy network of sub sandwich delivery cyclists. Go up against a computer genius who's invented an app that makes smartphone users into cartoonishly extravagant 'Russians' (tall furry hats, thick accents.) I don't know, man, I'm just thinking about what would do justice to the original, and not devolve into just one more grumpy, muddy, dark antihero violent sex-fest. There is more than enough of that already.

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One of the (many, many) reasons I love the original is the lack of soap opera. While that's simply part of television at the time-- there wasn't any romantic subplots in Dragnet-- modern TV is incapable of letting platonic relationships exist. Scully and Mulder had to eventually fall in love, same thing with Bones, Moonlighting, Fringe etc etc. These subplots are usually the beginning of the end for these shows. If The Avengers was revived, laying out a couple etched-in-stone rules at the beginning might keep it from being crap. "The leads flirt, but that's as far as it ever goes." Steed and Peel flirted like mad. But there wasn't any sense of boiling, tumultuous, repressed sexual urge. They were coworkers, partners, professionals. They trusted each other and respected each other, and that can be a much more interesting relationship to watch (and to write and develop) that the TV-standard "oh but when are they gonna 'do it?'" - infanttyrone-1

Excellent point about the platonic man-woman relationship not being possible in the hook-up obsession of our current era. That to me was the biggest sticking point with the Doctor Who reboot in 2005--Doctor and companion overtly mooning over each other.

However, the Tara King era of The Avengers saw the smudging of the line between platonic relationship/flirting and overt romance/sex, even if it didn't actually erase the line, as Tara did seem to moon over Steed, and he seemed a little smitten himself. Again, not enough to ruin the dynamic, but it looked to me more pronounced than the relationships Steed had with Cathy and Emma.

And I am afraid that a current version of The Avengers would put sex in the mix. In its early years, The X Files is a great example of refraining from this; the first movie had a moment--and only a moment--of weakness; but the second movie blasted past all that, even if that was only one of its many problems.

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Who could play Emma Peel?

Viewing the very early episodes of The Avengers with Diana Rigg, she looks exactly like Olivia Munn!

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The show could be revived by Steven Moffat and Mark Gattis. Matt Smith could play Steed, and Rachel Stirling (Diana Rigg's daughter. They appeared together in the NuWho episode "The Crimson Horror") could play Mrs. Peel. I even made a poster for it: http://tinyurl.com/nj869st

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The show could be revived by Steven Moffat and Mark Gattis. Matt Smith could play Steed


Heaven forbid!

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