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On Imperfections in Films


Films, even great films, are imperfect beasts... shots in a given scene are often pieced together from different days shooting, or different locations, or, as in Psycho repeatedly, from locations together with soundstages. It's possible then to regard the minor seams that show and flow from the basic realities of film production as imperfections to be overcome. This is evidently what David Fincher thinks. A new upgrade of Seven (1995) for 4K Blu-ray has been released. The following link has some of the details

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=546224

I recommend scrolling down to the bottom of the document where a lot of the changes to the final main scene in the movie are detailed. There's way too much for me to discuss, but two points stick out.

1. The climax of Seven was filmed over several days with slightly different lighting conditions and with one day much less cloudy than the rest. To the extent I processed this in the theater and in subsequent viewings I *liked* the cloudless shots - they had a slighted heightened feel to them like we were in John Doe's head/world. That's now gone and Fincher has inserted uniformly cloudy skies in every shot. (Grrr...)
2. The document (about a page up from the bottom) includes 4 frames from an original 35mm print of Seven (i.e. from the climax) to show how far Seven has drifted in color palette, contrast levels, etc. in its various DVD, Blu-Ray, and now 4K presentations. Faces weren't originally swathed in shadow in the scene, and so forth. So maybe the uniformity of cloud cover between shots isn't the most pressing issue. The question, 'What then is the final film these days?' is.

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Fincher even changed camera moves in his revamp of Se7en.

The final result looks great but I don’t think this kind of revisionism and tinkering is necessary, the original should be preserved.

Still, it’s not as bad as Cameron’s recent efforts to destroy his glorious back catalogue with grotesque AI tinkering and the worst digital noise reduction and fake sharpening 🤦🏻‍♂️

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@Melton. Cameron's AI-driven tinkering looks completely horrible from what I've seen of it on youtube. Cameron has then taken great umbrage against those online reviewers, telling them to 'get a life'. Amazing!

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He has become a total fuck-head who hates his older, better films and hates his fans. All he wants to do is rub our noses in his bland eco-propaganda Avatar films.

The treatment he has given a timeless classic like Terminator 2 is nothing short of a crime, and as long as there is breath in his lungs he will make sure we never get a proper restoration of his classics.

Sad to admit but I’m actually waiting for him to croak so someone who cares can do those films justice.

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The treatment he has given a timeless classic like Terminator 2 is nothing short of a crime, and as long as there is breath in his lungs he will make sure we never get a proper restoration of his classics.

Sad to admit but I’m actually waiting for him to croak so someone who cares can do those films justice.

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Ha. Well didn't George Lucas start it -- not with his "Star Wars" revisions(i.e. the Death Star explosion "made bigger") but with his opening shot of American Graffiiti.

I remember seeing American Graffiti on its Friday opening night in August, 1973, and I REMEMBER the natural lighting(no CGI invented YET or matte work affordable) and REALISTIC shot of the grayish night sky emerging at dusk for dark. It created a MOOD...the twilight of these young people's youth.

Now, its a garish orange and blood red sunset...and I hate it.

A lesser note: Hitchocck's Vertigo opens with cop firing his gun as he chases a crook across rooftops. The 1996 digital remastering of Vertigo took OUT the gunshot sounds of 1958 and replaced them with more muffled 1996 gunfire. It BOTHERED me. Turns out you can hear the original gunshots by finding the Alfred Hitchcock AFI salute in 1979 when that chase and gunfire clip was shown in its original fashion.

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Films, even great films, are imperfect beasts... shots in a given scene are often pieced together from different days shooting, or different locations, or, as in Psycho repeatedly, from locations together with soundstages.

Some interesting(to me) examples of that in Psycho:

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The highway cop stop scene. The scene opens with extensive -- and silent -- footage on location of the cop's car pulling up near Marion's parked car -- backing up, and parking a distance behind her(the screen time given to all this is LONG but mesmerzing.) The "on location cop"(who might or might not be the actor playing him -- Mort Mills -- I can't tell) approaches the parked car. We can't see anyone in the car (Marion's sleeping in there.)

BOOM. When the cop REACHES the car, we are clearly on a soundstage with a PHOTOGRAPH of the hillside near Marion's car as backdrop. Mort Mills and Janet Leigh(and SHE never went up there to Gorman north of LA on location) begin their dialogue scene.

TWO: I"ve attested that my favorite shot in Psycho is of Arbogast climbing the stone steps on the brushy hillisde to the Bates Mansion in -- nighttime? dusk? hard to tell.

But this: there are CLOUDS in the sky behind the house in that shot, but in the shot two shots BEFORE it -- Arbogast's POV of just the house on the hill in the moonlight -- no clouds in the sky.

Doesn't matter. BOTH shots are glorious to the eye and the FIRST one(the POV on the house with mother's window brightly gleaming) is often used now to "show off the house": its the best photograph it took.

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AND:

North by Northwest. One film earlier. Two shots, one right after the other, one great , one not:

GREAT SHOT: Cary Grant held at gunpoint by the heavyset Commie maid inside Vandamm's house. Brightly lit lamps all around the room "frame" Grant and the maid in a perfect almost three-dimensional space.
BAD SHOT: Cut to: Eva Marie Saint OUTSIDE the house being steered by villains James Mason and Martin Landau to a private plane. The outside of the house behind Eva Marie is clearly a PAINTING. Even the car parked near the house is a PAINTING. (It looks like one of those "cartoon character cars in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.")

I've shown North By Northwest to people and when it reaches this point, I say:

Look at that GREAT shot of Grant and the maid. Now..whoa..FORGET this shot with Saint and the house and the cartoon car.

But I accept North by Northwest as great nonetheless. Indeed, the theme of these posts: imperfections and mismatches. We allow them.

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The document (about a page up from the bottom) includes 4 frames from an original 35mm print of Seven (i.e. from the climax) to show how far Seven has drifted in color palette, contrast levels, etc. in its various DVD, Blu-Ray, and now 4K presentations

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Two comments about .."just me."

ONE: I just never see these mismatches and color changes, usually. I "go with the flow." Jaws reportedly used all sort of takes "at sea" with the men on the boat and I just didn't notice them.

TWO: All these changes in "contrast levels"(which I can only guess about) and print color seem to be pretty much at the whim of those making later prints:

Case in point: In TV showings of North by Northwest in the 70's, I always felt that the movie pushed a "blue and gray" color tint. Some internet critic wrote: was this Hitchcock in his "blue period"?

But more RECENT prints of North by Northwest seem to have washed that "blueness" out of the print and replaced it with...BROWN? Except at the glorious Mount Rushmore climax in the blue of night.

And ...about Se7en. This was very schematic, but it WORKED:

A city so depressing(never named) that it is ALWAYS raining, always dark and gray.

UNTIL the tension-mounting-climax(with intense music and sound effects) as they FINALLY leave the dark rainy city for wide open tan-brown fields (north of Los Angeles -- the same fields where Cary Grant ran from that crop duster SUPPOSEDLY in Indiana -- and not that far from where the cop stopped Marion in Gorman.)

But the film STILL seems dark in visual even IN those "wide open sunny spaces."

By the way, the unnamed city in Se7en seems like it could be NYC, or Chicago, or even Portland Oregon(all that rain) but the climax clearly denotes the region north of Los Angeles and I think a Los Angeles freeway sign pops up in there. I vaguely remember that, I may be wrong.

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But more RECENT prints of North by Northwest seem to have washed that "blueness" out of the print and replaced it with...BROWN?

It's fascinating but also slightly mortifying to have the details of the evolution of NbNW's color palette right in front of you. Behold two dvds compared with the Warners blu-ray:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare5/northbynorthwest.htm
The Blu-ray has a lot more green in the images which makes the crop-duster road setting seem earthier/more desolate and gloomy whereas the dvd images are redder and bluer and brighter and correspond to my first memories of NbNW.
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film10/blu-ray_review_150/north_by_northwest_4K_UHD.htm
The 4K-Blu-ray is bright again like the Dvds but yellower rather than red so the basic look is now Brown for the first time!

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But more RECENT prints of North by Northwest seem to have washed that "blueness" out of the print and replaced it with...BROWN?

It's fascinating but also slightly mortifying to have the details of the evolution of NbNW's color palette right in front of you. Behold two dvds compared with the Warners blu-ray:

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Yep. There it is. A BROWN texture. (Particularly in the shots of Saint seducing Grant in the train car and getting ready to shoot him in the Mount Rushmore cafeteria. And yet, indeed, the blue night stays blue ON Mount Rushmore(though perhaps somewhat darkened by brown tinge?)

There's another situation rather like this (to my eyes) in my other favorite Hitchcock.

The later "special edition" VHS versions of Psycho had a crystalline clarity to many scenes. Shots of the house on the hill(EXCEPT for the ones where Saul Bass matted in muddy moving clouds in the sky after the rain the night Marion visits the motel.) The hotel room where Sam and Marion tryst. The real estate office. The cop scene(a clarity of image AND soundtrack, the voices of Janet Leigh and Mort Mills sound stereophonic.)

But somewhere when Psycho switched to DVD (Blu-Ray, maybe) the prints got LESS crystalline, MORE dark and "muddy around the edges" (again, to my eyes. ) It was as if the movie suddenly looked OLDER.

I'm afraid the "darker DVD" version of Psycho is all that is available to watch now. I don't have a VCR anymore to watch those crystal clear VHS versions. And I can't say that either the Netflix or the Amazon Prime streaming versions are crystalline either.

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For all of that, the crystalline quality still shines through on one very special shot: Arbogast's POV of the house(before he walks up there). As I note elsewhere, THIS shot appears on the internet all over the place to "sum up" Psycho and the Psycho house: a crystal clear slate gray night sky behind the house -- and the house looks GREAT -- with Mother's window burning bright white light. NO shot of the Psycho house, in Psycho itself or any of the Psycho sequels(with an aging, splintered and eventually rebuilt house) look that good. (And shall we again note the totally whack decision on Gus Van Sant's part to create an entirely DIFFERENT Psycho house that no one remembers? Like I said: its like showing the Washington Monument and showing a giant bowling all instead.

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And about that white light shining out of Mother's upstairs bedroom window:

I've mentioned this before , but here is a good place to mention it again:

The famous movie poster for The Exorcist rather homages the "Psycho window" -- if not the Psycho house -- in showing Max Von Sydow from behind, positioned below a more foggy version of the "white light from the upstairs window." Greats imitating grants.

And in late 1973/early 1974, the massive black whale of a modern movie theater called "The National in Westwood"(West Los Angeles) built a facsimile of that window -- complete with white curtain blowing in the manufactured wind. To promote The Exorcist for its record long run with long lines -- folks lined up UNDERNEATH that window.

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There was a similar discussion a while back on another film board I visit. Film as an art form is unique among others in being a compendium of all those existing before it: literature; painting; sculpture; architecture; performance; music; photography. And in applying the last, it created a new one: montage; "The assembly of bits of film to tell a story," as Hitchcock put it. It's unique also in the ability of those bits of film to be manipulated and revised long after the product it represents was considered complete, in the forms of extended "director's cuts," latter day CG enhancements, color corrections and so forth.

The phrase we settled upon to designate these peculiar phenomena was "the plasticity of film," referring of course not to its flexible cellulose physical medium, but to its subjectivity to endless tinkering even after it's "in the can." And we concluded, just as you did, with the same question. It's one to which I'd put a finer point: What, then, is the definitive version of any film?

Let's apply that to PSYCHO. Is it the one released in 1960 in NY and L.A.? Or the one released the same year in, say, Munich and Berlin, with the extended shots of Marion undressing, the blood on Norman's hands and Arbogast's stabbing that Hitchcock couldn't get away with in the U.S.? Film makers like Lucas and Spielberg have lived long enough to take advantage of tools allowing them to enhance earlier work to achieve what they couldn't in 1977 or 1982 but would have if they'd been able. Hitchcock didn't, so what would he have thought about PSYCHO's remixed 5.1 surround, for instance? Enhancement? To be sure, but not what anyone heard in 1960. Or, perhaps, what they heard but not how they heard it. Which raises a matter of presentation.

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A film like HOW THE WEST WAS WON was crafted to be seen as three panels projected onto a deeply curved screen with multichannel sound, as I first saw it. But most audiences would have seen it in smaller theaters from 35mm reduction prints, with mono optical sound, projected onto flat screens. Same movie, no changes except in the presentation. The last time I saw it was on Blu-ray, with the join lines digitally erased and the image looking more vivid and sparkling than ever. No curved screen however, but, dammitall, better. Yet, not what I saw in '63.

What about alterations to the body of a film, then, to erase unintended imperfections? There's an awkward edit in IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT during the "walls of Jericho" scene. Wary Claudette Colbert is backed up against the door to their cabin as Gable proceeds in a long shot to demonstrate how a man undresses for bed. When he reaches the point where only his trousers remain, she begins bolting to the other side of the room. There's then a cut to a closer shot of Colbert alone, still stationary against the door, and she begins her bolt again to behind the "walls." Remasters of this film for DVD/Blu-ray have tightened that edit.

The first DVD release of BULLITT eliminated a flash frame that resulted when the Charger, rounding a corner and clipping a parked car, inadvertently mounted the curb and took out the camera. Subsequent Blu-ray releases have restored the flash frame in all its imperfect glory.

In both cases, video engineers were "fixing" small errors that could originally have been corrected in post but, in so doing, were presenting something that wasn't seen by audiences in 1934 or by me in 1968.

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There's a similarly awkward edit in the opening of PSYCHO: four smoothly panning shots of Phoenix's low-lying skyline are separated by dissolves as we're brought closer and closer to the "cheap hotel" where Sam and Marion have their afternoon assignation. After the final dissolve, the camera begins to zoom in on a particular window of that hotel, followed by an abrupt cut to a dolly-in on a soundstage replica of that window. 

Could present-day engineers smooth that out by interpolating another dissolve between those shots? Sure. They could also eliminate the twitch of Janet Leigh's eye as the camera retreats from what's supposed to be Marion's corpse sprawled on the bathroom floor tiles. But imperfections like these, along with those in IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT and BULLITT, are aspects of the charm of films we love and come to know so well, and I would - and do - miss them if they aren't there. 

So, to all video engineers and still-living directors: indulge all your that-could-have-been-better impulses, and tweak and "improve" and "enhance" all you like as long as the films have been preserved in as close as possible to the forms in which they were originally seen. And that represents what I'd call the definitive version of any film.

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So, to all video engineers and still-living directors: indulge all your that-could-have-been-better impulses, and tweak and "improve" and "enhance" all you like as long as the films have been preserved in as close as possible to the forms in which they were originally seen.
Yes, this seems like the best settlement. Ultimately, though, the plasticity you mention is just stressful. Communications about movies, i.e., among fans, become fraught I find, and in general having ultimately to familiarize yourself with multiple versions of so many movies is exhausting. Consider the examples of Aliens and Amadeus both from the mid-1980s. I prefer the theatrical cuts of both of these, which are available but definitely underseen these days compared to the longer director's cuts. And things like Apocalypse Now and The Good the Bad and The Ugly are even worse because there are 4-5 different versions in each case with wildly different lengths, color palettes. etc. (And, e.g., Kilgore's 'I love the smell of Napalm' scene now comes in multiple different versions with increasingly surreal dialogue. The upshot is that I don't even know whether I think it's a good scene any more - the longer versions feel utterly absurd and push Apoc. Now into Catch-22 territory, and make it a different movie.) I tend to hew to the theatrical release versions in each case but there's *no doubt* that the loose constellations of materials each film now represents across the wider film community undermines my commitment to my own preferences. I wanna give up!

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Oh, I feel all of that, swanstep. While all this fol de rol really exploded with the advent of home video, suddenly rendering every deleted scene, alternate take or what-have-you a commodity, it's something that's been with us almost as long as film has, but in a subdued form.

1925's PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, for instance, was rereleased in '29, incorporating music, dialogue and sound effects, as well as re-edited with newly shot scenes and alternate takes of existing ones (the famous unmasking among them) and other original ones deleted. Latter day attempts to reconstruct its '25 form have been frustrated by scarcity of documents from the period, and what now appear to be the highest quality restorations are results of great deals of intuition, outright guesswork and reliance on contemporaneous accounts whose accuracy can't always be verified.

Similar circumstances arose from Chaplin's 1940 rerelease of THE GOLD RUSH, but his control of film elements and documentation was, fortunately, more meticulous than most. And then, of course, there were the "roadshow" versions of big films that were shortened for general release, with the original negatives of some inexplicably cut down to conform, and that material discarded. And sometimes, rediscovered years later.

But the strictly 21st-century practice of film makers and/or marketers, unleashed by technology, bombarding the public with ever more "new and improved" versions of consumer favorites inevitably leaves only another question: when is the number of options and choices just too damned many?

EDIT for an afterthought - My natural cynicism kicked in and answered the question for me: never, as long as there's a buck to be made.

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@Doghouse. Thinking some more about these issues... there really are so many cases now of differing (sometimes well-motivated, some not) versions of films and tv that it's a little head-spinning. One family of cases that I've been exercised by is the changes in aspect ratio that has afflicted a lot of tv. That is, most pre-2000 tv stuff was 4:3 but almost all of that stuff is now screened in 16:9, e.g., Seinfeld, The Simpsons, are famous cases. One '70s documentary series to which I was very attached, The World at War was presented correctly on dvd in its original 4:3 but on blu-ray it's cropped down to 16:9 (where it's also now very very blue!). So much of the footage in TWAW is historic that it feels borderline criminal to crop it (I don;t know hat to make of the coloring). Anyhow, the Bluray set has hours and hours of additional footage which, if you're a fan, you have to have but you have to hang on your dvds to keep the full images of the original eps, which I've done. At least films mostly get presented in their original/proper aspect ratios these days.

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Indeed, swanstep. A different kettle of fish? If so, it's on the burner next to the first one and smells perhaps worse.

We've done our share of vintage TV viewing and have observed what you've mentioned as well as attempts to split the difference, combining both cropping and stretching. There were episodes of the '50s - '60s PERRY MASON incorporating those along with time compression to fit an originally 55-minute program into the 45 or fewer minutes syndication allows. Pitch correction had been applied to the audio to avoid sounding like Alvin and the chipmunks, but movement was unnatural in the way 18 fps silents appear when run at 24 fps.

Feature films have contended with those issues when using period footage. TORA! TORA! TORA! cropped it for the 2:35 aspect ratio; MIDWAY took the lazier route by simply editing it in without alteration, and anamorphic projection lenses stretched it out when screened, resulting in the longest B-25s and carriers ever seen. In those instances, I have to prefer cropping but only as the lesser of two evils.

But for TV? Jeez, just leave it alone. Do viewers really object so much to "windowboxed" images on their 16:9 displays?

There's a YouTube channel called Perf Damage where a couple of film professionals (who find themselves more amusing than they are, but that's common among YouTubers) examining issues of restoration in the digital age have focused lately on aspect ratio in the early-'50s transition period from Academy to widescreen, when many films were shot "open matte" (1:37 intended to be masked when projected). A recent one about 1954's THE COUNTRY GIRL illustrated how engineers often have to exercise their own judgement when deciding on 1:33, 1:66 or 1:85 for HD mastering if there's no clear guidance from documents of the period.

A headache, but it sounds to me like a fun job to have.

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There was a similar discussion a while back on another film board I visit.

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Another surprise visit from yet another long time ago commenter of much respect. Hello, Doghouse.

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Film as an art form is unique among others in being a compendium of all those existing before it: literature; painting; sculpture; architecture; performance; music; photography.


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True: the "power of movies(film)" certainly comes from that combination and how the history of invention allowed it to come into being not much more than 130 (?) years ago.

The Oscars of old rather saluted ALL such disciplines: performance(Best Actor), architecture(Art Direction and Set Decoration), CINEMAtopgraphy, and writing. I say "of old" because we once had more movies(it seems to me) with big sets and hundreds of costumes and that COMBINATION of elements coming together in one "package."

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And in applying the last, it created a new one: montage; "The assembly of bits of film to tell a story," as Hitchcock put it.

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Oh, how often Hitchcock talked about the "power of montage" and must admit, as a young fan, I was both excited and enthralled by HIS montages -- jagged, cuts-all-over the place sequences of great excitement to me.

The shower scene is probably at the top of the list, but the berserk carousel in Strangers on a Train is pretty damn great montage.

Hitchcock went and emulated his shower scene montage twice more -- with the final bird attack on Tippi Hedren in The Birds(she survives) and the necktie strangling (following the rape) of Brenda Leigh-Hunt in Frenzy( she does not survive.

It is The Birds attack of the three which is the most spectacular of the three(because of the BIRDS -- the effects), but the shower scene is more terrifying(with music to make you scream) and the necktie strangling is the most disturbing(the pre-murder sex, the LACK of music, the brutality over terror.)

I do remember my "younger self" going quite ga-ga over Hitchcock's "overt montage sequences" -- like Raymond Burr charging at James Stewart at the end of Rear Window or the brutal killing of Gromek in Torn Curtain (a slower, more extended attack than the three listed above.)

When Sam Peckinpah gave us fast-cut montage AND slow motion(and other film speeds) in the climax of The Wild Bunch, I felt the spirit of Hitchcock (not Ford or Hawks) on the screen. Hitchcock was alive to see The Wild Bunch. I'll bet he did see it, and I'll be he felt that Peckinpah "pretty much got" what Hitchocck was trying to do.

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It's unique also in the ability of those bits of film to be manipulated and revised long after the product it represents was considered complete, in the forms of extended "director's cuts," latter day CG enhancements, color corrections and so forth.

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Speaking of Director's cuts -- and the restoration of "deleted scenes" -- I recall renting a horror movie for a quick night's pleasure years ago -- I think it was called "Jeeper's Creepers," and the "deleted scene" ran about 45 minutes and was an entirely different third act and ending to the story. One hears of "extensive re-shoots"(currently having happened with the new Captain America movie) and one realizes that re-shoots can mean "junking the original movie and starting all over again."

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The phrase we settled upon to designate these peculiar phenomena was "the plasticity of film," referring of course not to its flexible cellulose physical medium, but to its subjectivity to endless tinkering even after it's "in the can."

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Fair enough. And that's the way it certainly is today for directors who want that chance.

By the way, I read somewhere that Directors are often given deals to "shoot their version" in the knowledge that "their version" will be released as "deleted scenes" on the final DVD so viewers can "get their choice of the movie to watch" RIGHT AWAY. Of course VHS went the way of the dodo bird and DVDs aren't far behind so how WILL we get "deleted scenes"?

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And we concluded, just as you did, with the same question. It's one to which I'd put a finer point: What, then, is the definitive version of any film?

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In the words of a Monty Python character: "A fair question and one that recently has been much on my mind."

And a very good question.

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Let's apply that to PSYCHO. Is it the one released in 1960 in NY and L.A.? Or the one released the same year in, say, Munich and Berlin, with the extended shots of Marion undressing, the blood on Norman's hands and Arbogast's stabbing that Hitchcock couldn't get away with in the U.S.?

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THAT's a good one to contemplate. Because Spielberg once moved on HIS director's cut(with newly shot scenes) for Close Encounters a mere THREE years after its 1977 release (now there is a 1980 release to go with it) and I can't really remember WHEN George Lucas put the garish sunset in American Graffiti and tinkered with Star Wars films.

But here are these three quite miniscule but TELLLING edits to the American version Psycho that were discoverede DECADES after Psycho came out and DECADES after Hitchcock died.

Quite frankly, I now see the "German directors cut" as the DEFINITIVE Psycho because clearly Hitchcock put those moments on film (SHOT them, not just WROTE them) and that was his original vision of the film.

Fascinating: the three extra bits in Psycho were tracked down after a fro sleuth noticed that -- in the original 1968(?) copy of Hitchcock/Truffaut, the still frame of Janet Leigh taking off her bra showed more back and a bit of "almost side boob"(as they call it.) WHERE was that footage found for the book? Someone tracked down the print, and voila -- the German version.(And SOMEONE, of the millions of people who looked at the Psycho pages in Hitchcock/Truffaut, raised the alarm. With the modern day internet, one million people miss such details but ONE person finds that gaffe and the world finds out about it eventually. Amazing.

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Of the "three lost and restored shots" -- it is the lingering camera travelling shot on the "blood on Norman's hands" that has the most impact to me. Now, when I see "the censored shot" of Norman's bloodied hands, it seems way too SHORT. This shot was queasy-making enough censored(that's MARION's blood - -her LIFEblood -- on Norman's literal hands.) In the longer walking shot, it borders on nausea-inducing and REALLY drives home the point of blood on NORMAN'S hands (look at the guilt in his eyes.)

Of the other two shots -- the one of Marion pulling her bra off further is just too quick to register as "nude." And those additional stabs down on Arbogast -- just look suspicious to me -- like somebody repeated the original knife blow over and over. The restored shot of the knife is " a little bit sloppy" and Arbogast's famous final scream comes too late.

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Film makers like Lucas and Spielberg have lived long enough to take advantage of tools allowing them to enhance earlier work to achieve what they couldn't in 1977 or 1982 but would have if they'd been able. Hitchcock didn't, so what would he have thought about PSYCHO's remixed 5.1 surround, for instance? Enhancement? To be sure, but not what anyone heard in 1960. Or, perhaps, what they heard but not how they heard it. Which raises a matter of presentation.

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I've sometimes mused that if you could take a time machine back to the summer of 1960, and walk into a movie theater showing Psycho - you'd see EXACTLY the movie you can see today(rather a waste of a time machine -- better to go someplace other than a movie theater.) But who knows? Maybe the sound would be tinny and the projection too dark.

I DO remember this: when I got to see SOME of Psycho on TV in 1968(a long story told before) I remember being surprised at how "rich and stereophonice" the sound was in the scene of the cop talking to Marion. I thought Psycho was going to be sort of "shabby" in technicals and sound but it wasn't All the way beack then.

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A film like HOW THE WEST WAS WON was crafted to be seen as three panels projected onto a deeply curved screen with multichannel sound, as I first saw it.

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I saw it that way on Hollywood Boulevard at the Warner Theater I think, in 1963. But I was too young to REALLY understand how the screen "surrounded me." (Correction to another post: I said I saw The Sound of Music in 1967 because I "never went to Hollywood to see movies." I meant: to see The Sound of Music. Our family made the pilgramage to Hollywood to see these Cinerama films: The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm, How the West Was Won, and Khartoum.



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But most audiences would have seen it in smaller theaters from 35mm reduction prints, with mono optical sound, projected onto flat screens. Same movie, no changes except in the presentation. The last time I saw it was on Blu-ray, with the join lines digitally erased and the image looking more vivid and sparkling than ever. No curved screen however, but, dammitall, better. Yet, not what I saw in '63.-

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And in between 1963 and the "join lines digitally erased" version -- ABC in the US in the 70's -- showed How the West Was Won with the join lines NOT erased. Very jarring -- at the end when the train flies off the rails it is as if the train "bends in three places."

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What about alterations to the body of a film, then, to erase unintended imperfections? There's an awkward edit in IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT during the "walls of Jericho" scene. Wary Claudette Colbert is backed up against the door to their cabin as Gable proceeds in a long shot to demonstrate how a man undresses for bed. When he reaches the point where only his trousers remain, she begins bolting to the other side of the room. There's then a cut to a closer shot of Colbert alone, still stationary against the door, and she begins her bolt again to behind the "walls." Remasters of this film for DVD/Blu-ray have tightened that edit.

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I am reminded of an UNfixed edit in a much less classic movie -- the 1971 James Bond movie Diamonds are Forever(with the first of Connery's TWO returns to the role.)

Connery is fighting a Big Baddie in a small open elevator in an apartment building -- visible from all sides, just glass and iron bars on it.

There is a close-up outside the elevator of Jill St. John in her doorway watching the fight as the elevator passes...then..

..a CUT to a long shot of Jill St. John in the doorway -- way out of position from the earlier shot. You watch it and think: "Nope they couldn't reshoot St John's position, we will all just have to allow it."

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The first DVD release of BULLITT eliminated a flash frame that resulted when the Charger, rounding a corner and clipping a parked car, inadvertently mounted the curb and took out the camera. Subsequent Blu-ray releases have restored the flash frame in all its imperfect glory.

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I'm very glad to hear that. I LOVED that flash frame. Bullittt prided itself on a "near documentary realism"(the car chase without process screens, the hospital scenes, the autopsy scenes, the police department scenes) and that "camera loss" felt REAL. Damn real.

When they cut it out and polished it up, I felt the movie had been violated.



--In both cases, video engineers were "fixing" small errors that could originally have been corrected in post but, in so doing, were presenting something that wasn't seen by audiences in 1934 or by me in 1968.

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I saw Bullitt first run in 1968, too, but I "don't remember remembering" that flash from the car wreck. I caught that in later TV and VHS showings.

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There's a similarly awkward edit in the opening of PSYCHO: four smoothly panning shots of Phoenix's low-lying skyline are separated by dissolves as we're brought closer and closer to the "cheap hotel" where Sam and Marion have their afternoon assignation. After the final dissolve, the camera begins to zoom in on a particular window of that hotel, followed by an abrupt cut to a dolly-in on a soundstage replica of that window.

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...and I always LOVED that "moment" with the abrupt cut, and that leads to this observation.

Among the Oscar snub outrages regarding Psycho is that it got NO Best Film Editing nomination(by the way, Bullitt did and WON.)

Because the shower scene is perhaps the most spectacular "film editing sequence" in movie history for horror impact(the chariot race in Ben-Hur the year before is spectacular as...spectacle.)

But I always felt that professional film editors who "wanted cuts to be invisible" were likely offended by that bad cut to the studio window.

I felt, on the contrary , that this was the first of -- quite a few? -- JAGGED cuts in Psycho that tracked with the jagged knife attacks and GAVE the movie a sense of madness.

The cut to the window: JAGGED.

A cut as Mrs. Bates spins around in her fruit cellar chair: JAGGED.

The famous cut between the high shot of Mother's attack on Arbogast and the close-up of his bloodied face: JAGGED.

And of course the shower scene: JAGGED...JAGGED ...JAGGED. (Starting with the three ever-closer cuts to Marions screaming mouth.)

Psycho is always CALLING ATTENTION to its cutting(as The Wild Bunch would 9 years later, and Bonnie and Clyde a little bit in between) and I love that about it. Even the jagged cut into the hotel window suggests the terror ahead. JAGGED.

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Could present-day engineers smooth that out by interpolating another dissolve between those shots? Sure. They could also eliminate the twitch of Janet Leigh's eye as the camera retreats from what's supposed to be Marion's corpse sprawled on the bathroom floor tiles. But imperfections like these, along with those in IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT and BULLITT, are aspects of the charm of films we love and come to know so well, and I would - and do - miss them if they aren't there.

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Yep. These are "captures" of the reality of MAKING the film; they take us a little bit out of the story and we sense the MAKERS.

By the way, in Van Sant's Psycho, a combination of a modern-day camera, CGI, and the helicopter shot that Hitchcock couldn't get in 1960, brings us in steadily and smoothly into that window and -- I still like JAGGED better. A bit creepier.



So, to all video engineers and still-living directors: indulge all your that-could-have-been-better impulses, and tweak and "improve" and "enhance" all you like as long as the films have been preserved in as close as possible to the forms in which they were originally seen. And that represents what I'd call the definitive version of any film.

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There you go. But: exactly: give us TWO versions of the film: yours and the FIRST one.

Psycho has that now. You can see it without the three extra shots(the 1960 American release) and WITH the three extra shots(2020 I believe, at theaters -- my favorite movie of 2020 -- and on DVD.)

By the way, the Rebello book on Psycho points out that, in movie theaters in various cities in the US AND the rest of the world, there is evidence of the original print being CUT in various showings, different scenes, from town to town all over the US and the world:

The shower scene was shortened. Mother finishing off Arbogast at the foot of the stairs was removed. Certain lines were removed("He found them together...in BED.")

So who knows HOW MANY versions of Psycho were being projected around the world in 1960?

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"Another surprise visit from yet another long time ago commenter of much respect. Hello, Doghouse."
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Hi to you and gratitude for the warm greeting. Don't really know why I haven't had anything to say in a while but, even when silent, I'm never far away. Still a regular reader.
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"I was both excited and enthralled by HIS montages -- jagged, cuts-all-over the place sequences of great excitement to me."
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For all its bravura technique, among the pieces of PSYCHO's editing of which I'm most fond is a little "nothing" moment that Hitch and Tomasini made special. Just as Norman has retrieved the newspaper and is exiting the room, a brisk pan to the right follows him as he goes through the door; a cut to outside just before the door slam as he approaches the rear of Marion's car; a brisk pan to the left as camera follows the tossed paper into the trunk which is then slammed shut; another cut to a longer shot of him approaching the driver's door.

The whole thing takes all of 5 seconds. Simple action. Three shots, two edits. Complimentary rhythms of movement (to the right, cut, to the left, cut) and sounds (slam, whoosh, slam) create a five-second symphony for eye and ear that's at once fluid yet staccato. Cool efficiency with tense urgency. And symmetry: cut; slam; slam; cut. As well, both brisk pans cease just a couple or few frames before the edits, rather than the cuts coming on camera movement. An all-business bit of rhythmic counterpoint. It's a moment I wait for when watching the film.

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" Quite frankly, I now see the "German directors cut" as the DEFINITIVE Psycho because clearly Hitchcock put those moments on film (SHOT them, not just WROTE them) and that was his original vision of the film."
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"Now, when I see "the censored shot" of Norman's bloodied hands, it seems way too SHORT."
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"Of the other two shots -- the one of Marion pulling her bra off further is just too quick to register as "nude." And those additional stabs down on Arbogast -- just look suspicious to me"
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Or maybe not. With your further remarks about the impact of the extended bloody-hands shot, I also can't take issue. Yet, I've not yet settled on which way I prefer. Sometimes, a quick shot is more like a visual jab for dramatic emphasis. Perhaps I'll never decide which.  

Quick glimpses of hands in closeup are something I've considered a little Hitchcock trademark. Norman's snatching the towel from the rod. Roger's gentle grasp of Eve's at the train station as she's moving to walk away. Mark Rutland extending his toward Marnie when he confronts her at the safe, appearing to be calming and reassuring while surreptitiously going for the gun on the desk. Melanie's reaching for the ignition key - not there - when taking refuge from the birds in a parked car. Even as far back as THE LODGER, when Daisy's restrain his lest he reveal the handcuffs. A Hitchcock touch, you might say. Well, I did, at least.

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"ABC in the US in the 70's -- showed How the West Was Won with the join lines NOT erased. Very jarring -- at the end when the train flies off the rails it is as if the train "bends in three places."
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One of the numerous drawbacks of the system. While the screens displayed the images across a continuous curve like a bow window, the separate lenses were capturing three flat planes - like a bay window - from different angles. As it happened, TCM was running HTWWW just yesterday in the so-called "Smilebox" format intended to mimic the curved screen, and I took a look at a few minutes of it. 

And no matter how it's presented, trains, teams of horses, stampeding buffalo or anything else appear to change direction when passing from the range of one lens into that of the next. Because, relative to the lenses, they are.
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"I saw Bullitt first run in 1968, too, but I "don't remember remembering" that flash from the car wreck. I caught that in later TV and VHS showings."
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Ever since I first started reading and learning about how films are made at maybe 9 or 10, I've watched each one with what amounts to two brains (have I said this before?). One is surrendering to the story while the other is studying technique. One can be gasping, "Omigod, he's the killer!" while the other is thinking, "They should have held that shot a second longer." 

I noticed the flash first time I saw it, but also something else: in the 10 -15 frames following the flash, the parked car's dented fender had repaired itself (talk about plasticity). And with a bit of thought, I realized they'd filled in with a few frames from the beginning of the take before the Dodge had entered the shot because the breaking camera ended it sooner than they wanted. Imperfections notwithstanding, I get a kick out of stuff like that.

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"And of course the shower scene: JAGGED...JAGGED ...JAGGED. (Starting with the three ever-closer cuts to Marions screaming mouth.)"
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And those were a shock motif he repeated with the reveal of Dan Fawcett in THE BIRDS. It's something James Whale used with the entrances of Boris Karloff in FRANKENSTEIN and Claude Rains in THE INVISIBLE MAN. In the latter, since there's something mysterious but not overtly frightening about a guy wrapped in gauze, Whale added a menacing dimension to Rains' closeups throughout the film by shooting up at him from a low angle. 
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"Psycho is always CALLING ATTENTION to its cutting(as The Wild Bunch would 9 years later, and Bonnie and Clyde a little bit in between) and I love that about it. Even the jagged cut into the hotel window suggests the terror ahead. JAGGED."
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"And of course the shower scene: JAGGED...JAGGED ...JAGGED. (Starting with the three ever-closer cuts to Marions screaming mouth.)"
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Yes! And that time, with no music. "No music" became Hitchcock's motif through two more shock murder scenes: one in Torn Curtain and one in Frenzy. Here with The Farmer with the Pecked Out Eyes, one wonders -- would have sudden shock music(along the lines of the Psycho violins) gottne MORE screams.

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It's something James Whale used with the entrances of Boris Karloff in FRANKENSTEIN and Claude Rains in THE INVISIBLE MAN.

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But of course! Hitchcock "borrowed" from James Whale for Psycho and The Birds -- and the directors of Bonnie and Clyde(for the last moments of B and C) and The Wild Bunch (for the last moments of The Wild Bunch) borrowed from Hitchcock.
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"Psycho is always CALLING ATTENTION to its cutting(as The Wild Bunch would 9 years later, and Bonnie and Clyde a little bit in between) and I love that about it. Even the jagged cut into the hotel window suggests the terror ahead. JAGGED."
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I like those observations. So many ways a director can speak to an audience with a camera. And isn't that what Hitchcock called "pyoowah cinemahh

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Ha: "pyoowah cinemahh." That's the lugubrious voice alright. I would here like to again note that "fast montage cutting" really did excite me back in the day. Hitchcock did it ALL THE TIME and endeared me to him(even in the final film Family Plot, there is some quick cutting attendant to the villains kidnapping a bishop -- in which "some shots were left out" to render the whole kidnappilng process quicker than it would really be and "cinematic abrstract" at the same time.

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In Bonnie and Clyde, when the captured lawman spits in Bonnie's face, there is a totally disconnected shot of Clyde's face in a sudden, justifable rage. I recall THAT shot REALLY was "jagged." I wish I liked the "drama scenes" and acting in Bonnie and Clyde more than I did because it was surely on the right track, violence and montage wise.

The Wild Bunch - at once more raw(few females) and more elegiac than B and C -- did it all better and took the slo mo started by B and C up to 11.

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"ABC in the US in the 70's -- showed How the West Was Won with the join lines NOT erased. Very jarring -- at the end when the train flies off the rails it is as if the train "bends in three places."
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One of the numerous drawbacks of the system. While the screens displayed the images across a continuous curve like a bow window, the separate lenses were capturing three flat planes - like a bay window - from different angles. As it happened, TCM was running HTWWW just yesterday in the so-called "Smilebox" format intended to mimic the curved screen, and I took a look at a few minutes of it.

And no matter how it's presented, trains, teams of horses, stampeding buffalo or anything else appear to change direction when passing from the range of one lens into that of the next. Because, relative to the lenses, they are.

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"Real Cinerama" (with those separate sceens) didn't last too long. It had been invented for novelty pictures and travelogues, and How the West Was Won proved trying to tell a story is...real hard in Cinerama. Within a few years, Cinerama was just another wide screen technique with one camera(I expect swanstep would know the technical details.)

For "later Cinerama," I am thinking here of Khartoum(which I saw at the Cinerama Dome) and "Krakatoa, East of Java"(which is shown on the MARQUEE of the Cinerama Dome in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood., redressed for the film)

Under "original Cinerama," I understand the actors went nuts in scenes because they couldn't look at the other actors and had to speak out into the distance to be recorded properly recorded on film.
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"I saw Bullitt first run in 1968, too, but I "don't remember remembering" that flash from the car wreck. I caught that in later TV and VHS showings."
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If you have before, go ahead now. I do, all the time. Ha.

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One is surrendering to the story while the other is studying technique. One can be gasping, "Omigod, he's the killer!" while the other is thinking, "They should have held that shot a second longer."

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Oh sure. And the older one gets the more one watches the movie "in both ways."

Speaking of "Omigod, he's the killer!" I'm reminded how in Frenzy, when Bob Rusk -- such an amiable, OK guy in his first scenes -- first comes through the door into victim Brenda Blaney's office, the angle is low on him and Ron Goodwin's music(in one of its best uses in an otherwise too-often pedestrian score) uses a quick smattering of notes -- flute, brief plucking of strings - and we ALL know: Omigod, he's the killer!. I first saw that film with my father, who said at that very moment, "Its him." Not a very hard call, I'll admit, but it was fun to see Hitchcock's technique WORK. After all, all Rusk has done is to walk through a door.

And a book on the making of Frenzy showed that Hitchocck only shot that moment of Rusk coming through the door TWICE, and then only printed ONE of the takes. As director Clint Eastwood says "You've got to know what you have when you have it."

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I noticed the flash first time I saw it,

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In my case, maybe I did too, but I simply don't remember, so that doesn't count.

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but also something else: in the 10 -15 frames following the flash, the parked car's dented fender had repaired itself (talk about plasticity).

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"Its magic!"

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And with a bit of thought, I realized they'd filled in with a few frames from the beginning of the take before the Dodge had entered the shot because the breaking camera ended it sooner than they wanted. Imperfections notwithstanding, I get a kick out of stuff like that.

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Well, directors have to do what they do to make things work.

Related. Hitchcock's camera crew noted to him that they didn't "hold focus" correctly as Arbogast climbed the stairs in Psycho -- the area behind him was kind of blurry as he climbed. Hitchcock reportedly said "I can live with that," and its clear to see why: the blurriness behind Arbogast seems "natural to our eyes" AND makes the stair climb a bit surreal (setting up the REALLY surreal fall ahead.)

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" Quite frankly, I now see the "German directors cut" as the DEFINITIVE Psycho because clearly Hitchcock put those moments on film (SHOT them, not just WROTE them) and that was his original vision of the film."
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Ha. Well -- and this has been a life lesson around here -- MY Psycho that is NOT your Psycho is a Psycho I never really SAW On TV or in a theater. Its a Psycho I saw im my MIND..pretty much start to finish as told to me by others, and it is Psycho driven by a billboard at night on a city street that just plain scared the hell ouf of me just THINKING about that motel and that house and that(known to me) shower murder. But I still can't articulate exactly that feeling.

Consequently, neither whatever Psycho was on TV in the 60s nor the German cut are...MY Psycho. That one was in my head.

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"Now, when I see "the censored shot" of Norman's bloodied hands, it seems way too SHORT."
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Ha. Yes. The camera pretty much follows "the bloody hands" across a short distance of the roomto the bathroom door BEFORE the hands reach the sink. In the cut version, things cut to the sink area pretty guick.

One more thing: we are told that the blood in Psycho was "Bosco chocolate syrup"(a name from my childhood.) But on that shot of the blood on Norman's hands as EXTENDED, even in black and white, the blood looks rather like thick tomato soup to me!




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Some "maybe, maybe not" trivia:

On the shot of Norman hands being washed in the sink, some have said that if you turn up the sound value real high, you will hear someone(Hitchcock?) directing Perkins in some way like saying "more" or something. But I listened and I cant really hear anything.

On the shot of Arbogast ascending the stairs, a worker on the movie said that in the cavernous "Phantom soundstage" where that was shot, there were birds in the rafters, and a chirping bird flew into the area and you can hear it on the soundtrack. I myself cannot but if so...more birds in the Hitchcock canon.

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"Of the other two shots -- the one of Marion pulling her bra off further is just too quick to register as "nude." And those additional stabs down on Arbogast -- just look suspicious to me"
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Yes, maybe not. I've been able to watch those "additional shots" a few times by now, and with the extra Arbogast stab(two, really, one on the fade out) there is an "abnormal pause" before he screams which tells me that trying to put the stabs back in screwed up with the soundtrack so they had to fix that, too but...its wrong. Arbogast first screams too long AFTER the stabs hit.

I'm reminded that a sub-par "Psycho" homage/ripoff, written by Robert Bloch, yet, with Joan Crawford yet , called Strait-Jacket, had one scene where a male victim falls out of the frame as an axe comes down on him time and again and HIS unseen scream kicks in. This is rather an homage to Arbogast's final moments and, as I recall, a bit smoother. However, director William Castle later gives us a graphic shot of a VERY bad dummy head begin chopped off of a George Kennedy dummy. Well, one out of two axe murders ain't bad, I guess.

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Yet, I've not yet settled on which way I prefer. Sometimes, a quick shot is more like a visual jab for dramatic emphasis. Perhaps I'll never decide which.

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On your words "visual jab," I'm reminded of the VERY impressive quick close-ups of the hand of Gromek (in Torn Curtain) JABBING at the coat of the entrapped Paul Newman. Whatever the weaknesses of that film, Hitchocck still had it with the energy of those hand jabs(with "overly noisy" sound making each jab count). Gromek's hand jabs (accompanied by an accusatory "Hmm? HMM?") are, in some way, the man's "opening punches" in fomenting a life or death fight that must be fought in silence -- no gun(a taxi driver is outside the house.)

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Quick glimpses of hands in closeup are something I've considered a little Hitchcock trademark.

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Like Gromek's hand jabbing at Newman OR....

;;;;;Norman's snatching the towel from the rod. Roger's gentle grasp of Eve's at the train station as she's moving to walk away.

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And, earlier on the train, Eve's hand gently pulling Roger's towards her to light her cigarettee..

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Mark Rutland extending his toward Marnie when he confronts her at the safe, appearing to be calming and reassuring while surreptitiously going for the gun on the desk. Melanie's reaching for the ignition key - not there - when taking refuge from the birds in a parked car.

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That "keyless ignition" is a nice symbol of impotence -- even if the scene is about a woman. Years later, Hitchocck needed a shot of keys IN an ignition for Family Plot and told his DP: "I want you to fill the screen with those keys." (Bruce Dern sees the keys in his girlfriend Blanches' car and knows she has not left the house where Dern will soon learn that she is being held prisoner.)

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Even as far back as THE LODGER, when Daisy's restrain his lest he reveal the handcuffs. A Hitchcock touch, you might say. Well, I did, at least.

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Oh, Hitchcock dug on hand close ups. I will add the close up on the big meaty hand of Rico Parra(John Vernon) closing around a locked doorknob in Topaz; and the hand of psycho Bob Rusk grabbing the ankle of victim Brenda Blaney and tripping her as she tries to run away from him.

"In real life" for a man, few things are more NICE than that first moment that a woman extends her hand in affection, interlaces fingers and holds your hand romantically. As the Beatles said, "I Want to Hold Your Hand." Hitchcock put some loving hand holding into his films. The last shot of The 39 Steps fro example.

Hitchcock is such a "Big Guy" in movie history that one finds all SORTS of markers and motifs in his film, over and over again. As he said "Self-plagarism is style."

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Hi to you and gratitude for the warm greeting. Don't really know why I haven't had anything to say in a while but, even when silent, I'm never far away. Still a regular reader.
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I have always felt -- and sometimes known -- that the more erudite/worldly swanstep and I are being read even if not always responded to. (And my stuff is not at the level of swansteps, or even much in the same ballpark...a funny unintentional combination, I think. "We shouldn't really be together." Ha.)

I myself have no requirement for response to everything I post, but it IS gratifying to get that occasional visit from you and from others. I will certainly name Telegonus. But there have been "other others" along the way, too.

And believe it or not, I TOO, am often reading but not writing. I'm hardly here every day.

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"I was both excited and enthralled by HIS montages -- jagged, cuts-all-over the place sequences of great excitement to me."
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For all its bravura technique, among the pieces of PSYCHO's editing of which I'm most fond is a little "nothing" moment that Hitch and Tomasini made special. Just as Norman has retrieved the newspaper and is exiting the room, a brisk pan to the right follows him as he goes through the door; a cut to outside just before the door slam as he approaches the rear of Marion's car; a brisk pan to the left as camera follows the tossed paper into the trunk which is then slammed shut; another cut to a longer shot of him approaching the driver's door.

The whole thing takes all of 5 seconds. Simple action. .... It's a moment I wait for when watching the film.

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Me, too. Here is a place to take note that for Hitchcock buffs of a certain stripe, just the act of WATCHING of the film (as opposed to following the storyline) is part of the very special pleasure of enjoying a Hitchocck film "in full."

And those cuts and details are part of it.

And it took WORK to get those cuts.

That scene you reference, doghouse, could have been referenced in two shots: one medium shot of Norman in Cabin One and one medium shot(from a fixed angle) of Norman on the porch next to the car. But Hitch adds those "quick pans" and those detailed close ups and ..voila! Such a sequence required Hitchcock's "direction"(Ok, get me a quick pan to that newspaper; OK, now get me a close up on his hands...) and "editing room oversight"(or perhaps with those shots in hand, Tpmasini knew how to cut them.)

Now, this kind of direction might infuriate actors on set: "What's with all this attention to detail shots I"M NOT IN? Why are you wasting my time? Why aren't you directing ME?" but Hitchcock tended to direct the entire look and flow of the film, shot by shot, detail by detail.

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Side-bar: One reason that I found Frenzy years later to be pretty much ENTIRELY the comeback film some said it was is that I enjoyed EXACTLY the same kind of detail in the shots that I'd found in Psycho.

Here are some examples:

One: in the pub, Hitch keeps cutting from the POV of the owner at the bar(Felix Forsythe) at people coming through the door. One of them is a known character: Babs the barmaid. But the OTHER is someone we are seeing for the first time: a man in a cap. We barely register him but we DO register him. And later he will prove very important: he's the driver of the potato truck into which the killer Rusk has tossed a body in a potato sack. Hitchcock made sure to get the man on the pub set and "photographed to pay off later"!

Two: Rusk pushing the wheelbarrow with Babs' body in the potato sack, then heaving the sack(grunting under its dead weight), then closing the tarp, then removing HIS cap, HIS apron(both the disguise of a Covent Garden worker), tossing one in the truck one in a corner, and putting away the wheelbarrow...details, details, details but "a night in the working life of a serial killer -- body disposal work." i find that little flurry of images and cuts FASCINATING, and in 1972 I saw this and thought: YES..this feels EXACTLY like a Hitchocck movie. He's back.

Three: Time magazine in 1972 reported how Hitchcock dictated ALL the shots for the potato truck scene to his secretary, who transferred them to small cards in order, and then the cards were given to the film editor to cut the shots. I'm sure that's done by computer today but THEN...I'll bet this "dictation of shot editing" is also EXACTLY how Hitchcock directed editor Tomasini to edit those shots of Norman and the newspaper and the car.

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