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Does Mother Cut Norman's Hair?


There's a lot to muse about in Psycho. Its the "gift that keeps on giving" in our minds after we see it.

One thing to ponder is: before Marion Crane showed up and really got Norman going -- he tries to be "Norman Bates" with her even as Mother rages within and eventually strikes back -- what was day to day life LIKE for Norman Bates with Mother's personality inside of him.

Most of Norman's days were spent likely alone. No guests came by to stay at the motel. He woke up in the morning(we saw his sad , rumpled little childhood bed) and started his day.

And he started it, likely, with Mother RIGHT THERE. To have breakfast with him. To order him about on chores(the one's Mother thinks Norman might be CAPABLE of doing.)

We see that Norman's a reader -- he's reading when Arbogast drives up. Robert Bloch's novel begins with Norman reading some pretty gruesome book with a chapter about Aztec warriors making a "drum out of the outstretched skin of a dead enemy's belly." And then Mother comes in to argue with him about being lazy and not minding the motel.

Hitchcock's film -- with the "crutch" of Bloch's book -- suggests that perhaps when he gets to read, Norman can just be Norman. But Mother is always there, always ready to rise up and assert herself against him.

Shifting the question: how does Norman LIVE as a hermit? Its probably pretty low maintenance. Figure he goes into Fairvale every three months or so "for provisions." Maybe driving a car we don't see(Norman can drive; he drives Marion's car to the swamp.) Maybe walking to a bus stop, like the prarie stop in NXNW.

Deliveries are likely made. A "motel service" probably brings fresh sheets and towels. Mail order could be used for the delivery of other things. To the motel, never to the house.

Norman's outfits are simple. The same pair of pants, the same white shirt. Sometimes a jacket. He probably washes them by hand, hangs them out to dry -- Mother likely doesn't help at all.

And he has a nice, short clean, sharp haircut. A Hollywood haircut. Who does that?

Well NORMAN does it but..maybe Mother deigns to help? Maybe Norman has a nice vision of Mother cutting his hair for him, even when he does it himself (except we get no inkling that THIS mean Mother EVER does ANYTHING for her son.)

There is also this, and I find it rather fascinating: when Marion first looks up and sees Mother gliding by the window, we realize at the end, that was Norman of course. And he thought he was all alone. Or Mother thought SHE was all alone.

Sometimes Mother is just in Norman's mind, but sometimes Norman dresses up as Mother. The shrink told us that. In Psycho as we have it, Norman dresses up when"danger or desire threatens." Which means -- he dresses to kill. Marion(desire.) Arbogast (danger.)

But what about those times when danger or desire ISN'T present? The shrink again: "He'd dress up. He's dress in her clothes, speak in her voice, sit in her chair. He tried to BE his Mother."

That's what he was doing when Marion first saw him. And perhaps -- had he committed no murders at all -- eventually Norman simply indeed would have BECOME his Mother. Probably for all time.

Note in passing: one of the reasons I never much liked the rather well-reviewed, somewhat of a hit "Bates Motel" is that it made manifest what was left to our imagination in Psycho. Using "A Beautiful Mind" and Russell Crowe's hallucinations as its inspiration, Bates Motel shows Norman "seeing" Mother(in the form of actress Vera Farmiga) around him ALL THE TIME, sitting at the breakfast table, sitting next to him in a car, standing near him when he talked to women. Everything was SHOWN, everything was EXPLAINED.

I much prefer Hitchcock's Psycho, which kept us imaginging...and wondering...for years after we saw it.

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Those are excellent capitalizations, ecarle! However, Norman must let a barber handle his hair since it is perfect. Despite the owner of the motel usually keeping to himself, getting his top professionally cut is extremely important to him as it is one of the very few things that he can control. Also, Norman does not want to be a hermit, but knows that he is not stable enough to be in society. A part of him wishes to be free of his mother, and maintaining a masculine hairstyle is one of the ways that he tries to convince himself that he is a man. Going in to town for this purpose might be a temporary break from Mrs. Bates for Norman.

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However, Norman must let a barber handle his hair since it is perfect. Despite the owner of the motel usually keeping to himself, getting his top professionally cut is extremely important to him as it is one of the very few things that he can control.

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Yes, a good haircut(for men) or hair styling (for women) -- (or for both men and women, or for either) is the essence of our control of our self-image. A good head of hair makes for half the battle of looking good.

Its been noted that most Hitchcock male villains are "dandies" - urban psychos Uncle Charlie, Bruno Anthony and Bob Rusk all wear nice suits and ties in Hitchcock, as do "non-psycho" villains like Tony Wendice and Philip Vandamm. And there is a "flamboyance" to the psycho dandies: Uncle Charlie's big Panama hat; Bruno's lobster tie with "Bruno" as his tiepin; Rusk with HIS "R" tiepin...and his big neckties.

Norman Bates is not a "suit and tie" fellow, but he does project a certain basic style and elegance -- the gray jacket he wears over his shirt(with Marion), the black sweater he wears over his shirt(with Arbogast.) A good haircut shows both outfits off to advantage.

So he probably travels into Fairvale and gets that good haircut. After all, there's no telling when nice single young woman might stop at the motel....

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Also, Norman does not want to be a hermit, but knows that he is not stable enough to be in society.

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Its a rather "elitist" aspect of Psycho(in a good way) that both Norman Bates and Marion Crane seem too "good" for the bad lives they have been given -- because BOTH of them are very PRETTY people. Its that built-in "movie star power." Why should someone who looks like Janet Leigh be wasted in a grim secretarial job with a penniless divorcee as her only prospect? Why should a young man as handsome(near beautiful), bright and witty as Norman Bates be forced to stay at home with a horrible mother dominating his every move? The audience wants better for Marion AND Norman but...tragically...neither gets it.

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A part of him wishes to be free of his mother, and maintaining a masculine hairstyle is one of the ways that he tries to convince himself that he is a man. Going in to town for this purpose might be a temporary break from Mrs. Bates for Norman.

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That's a great concept...

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Thank you, ecarle! Once again, you have strong, detailed descriptions.

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Lol, you do bring up an interesting point. I never thought about his hermit life, but it's with his Mother. It could be like you described. I would think Norman went to a barber. However, this could be Anthony Perkins as he's very meticulous in his grooming. Norman couldn't cut his own hair like that, so it could have been Mother while alive. Later, just went to the barber. He does errands for his Mother, so he probably has to go into town for that. As for getting around, he may have taken the bus. There is a broken down car, his mother or father's (?), at the back of the motel, so he could have learned to drive from Mother, too. The strange part to me is seeing his mother in bed and talking to her. It wasn't enough, so he had to dress up as her. How does he just ignore mother in bed if he's in her room. His room looks too small to stay in much and I doubt he keeps all the books he reads there if he reads a lot. Just his porn stash. He may have had record albums somewhere as he has a music player. He may have learned to cook in order to take care of himself and Mother. Next time, I watch I'll have to look for more clues to his hermit life with Mother.

Yet, if he didn't have much income except what he and Mother saved up, then he would be poor so where does he get the money? Is he on welfare? Food stamps? The book would be better to find this stuff out. BTW, I heard Robert Bloch wrote a Psycho II, but it wasn't used for the movie. He also has a book about the house. I have some catching up to do.

ETA: The Psycho Legacy Collection Blu-Ray is back in stock (German version), but the price has escalated to E295.97 or about $320.45 lol. https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Psycho-Legacy-Collection-Blu-ray/221563/

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It looks like he goes to the same barber in Fairvale as Sam, judging by their nearly identical haircuts.

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It looks like he goes to the same barber in Fairvale as Sam, judging by their nearly identical haircuts.

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Ha. Great, simple and direct point! Perhaps Norman could "keep it together" enough to travel into Fairvale for a haircut -- with Mother watching him in the corner with a judgmental scowl-- if that barber ruins her son's perfect hair, she'll use those scissors on him!

Though truth be told, I think Mother as she is presented in Psycho isn't a "constantly murderous being." It took the sexual arousal of a naked Marion Crane to trigger the shower murder; and the killing of Arbogast was a desperate defensive move -- he pushed too far.

PS. Speaking of haircuts, during this COVID-19 lockdown of 2020..barber shops and hair salons are closed. We men who were needing haircuts when it began are getting shaggier and shaggier. I welcome a forced return to James Taylor circa 1971(when he had long hair)...any week now.

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I'd bet my life that Norman's hair was cut by mother.

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With matters of Mother...you ARE betting your life.

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No way she'd risk him going to a barber and having his hair cut by some strumpet!

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That's a great point. Elsewhere on this thread I think we are imaging a MALE barber doing the work(like Floyd on the Andy Griffith Show; whoah -- Mayberry as Fairvale, there's a disconnect!) but, yeah, in certain salons, men get their hair cut(and shampooed) by fairly comedly lasses...at very close quarters. I've been one of those men. Its very pleasant.

Mama don't play that game...

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I never thought about his hermit life, but it's with his Mother. It could be like you described.

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Without bearing the cable series too much ill will, I did feel(in its final season, when Mrs. Bates was dead and in Norman's mind) that the show "Bates Motel" was sad and demoralizing to a fan of the original Psycho. For all the mystery about "how DOES Norman lead his hermit's life?" evaporated as we got these shots of Vera Farmiga(as a youngish Mrs. Bates, another mistake) hanging around Norman all the time "for real" (if in his mind.) It was like learning how a magic trick was done.

In the Hitchcock version, all we ever see is Norman, by himself, moving about his property. So we have to IMAGINE how and when he "sees" Mother. Not to mention, there comes that moment(four times) when Norman needs to dress UP as Mother...once at the window as Marion sees Mother, and then three times to kill(succeeding twice, failing once). That Norman dresses up EXPRESSLY to kill is part of the terror of Psycho. Hitchcock's Psycho.



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I would think Norman went to a barber. However, this could be Anthony Perkins as he's very meticulous in his grooming. Norman couldn't cut his own hair like that, so it could have been Mother while alive.

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Mother likely DID spoil Norman a bit as a child, or she wanted to make sure that HER son looked well groomed. There's always been a "disconnect" in Hitchcock's Psycho(and its throwaway sequels) as to exactly how mean or nice Mother was to Norman in his youth. Remember that Norman tells Sam, "That house happens to be my only world. I grew up in that house. My mother and I were more than happy." So Norman remembers a HAPPY childhood. Did Mother become mean? Or was Norman the mean psycho from childhood -- he did kill mom and her lover.

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Later, just went to the barber. He does errands for his Mother, so he probably has to go into town for that.

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Yes. He does tell Marion "he does errands for his mother" -- so he likely does go into town. Food certainly is a necessity(hey, does Norman buy for TWO?) And I'm willing to be that Norman visited Sam Loomis hardware a time or two -- maybe he bought knives there(shudder.) A haircut would be nice field trip. (If the barber's male, as another poster has noted...Norman can't get too closed to women.)

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As for getting around, he may have taken the bus.

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I had imagined Norman going to a bus stop rather like the one Cary Grant disembarks from(in the middle of Indiana nowhere) in North by Northwest.

But I was watching ANOTHER Hitchcock picture the other night -- the crystal clear and sparkling color entertainment To Catch a Thief(I love it during these troubled times) and I noticed a scene where a local bus pulls right up to the front of Cary Grant's Riveria estate. Cary just climbs aboard and rides the bus into town(Cannes or Nice, I dunno.)

I would expect that the "Old Highway" near Fairvale might have a "once a day, back and forth" run for rural residents to come into town. I wonder if that was the case with small towns in the open rural areas in those days.

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There is a broken down car, his mother or father's (?), at the back of the motel, so he could have learned to drive from Mother, too.

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That car is a great "plant." Looks like a Model A or Model T. A "glance into Norman's past." Norman would have been a little boy in the 1930's; his childhood was a "Model A" childhood.

Hitchcock originally didn't even want to have to BUILD the back of the motel for that shot of Lila back there, but screenwriter Joe Stefano felt it was necessary to show the back, so it was built. And then somebody went "all the way" and put that Model A/T there. (I don't know car models).

Interesting: on the IMDb site, there is one -- and ONLY one -- color photograph from the making of Psycho. It is of Hitchocck standing near that Model A/T. I'm also now recalling that Ford sponsored Hitchcock's TV show and put nothing but Fords in "California Charlie's" car lot. Hence...the Model A/T.

Van Sant modernized Psycho to 1998...so that car in the back looked like it was from the 50's, ala Marion's car.

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The strange part to me is seeing his mother in bed and talking to her. It wasn't enough, so he had to dress up as her.

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This remains part of the "rich, layered depth" of Psycho. That's a phrase that comes up a lot, but here is how one can factually PROVE it.

Its one thing if Norman sees Mother in his mind and just talks to her while remaining in his own clothes.

But Norman went to the trouble of wearing the dress -- and a cheap wig he bought -- to BECOME Mother from time to time. The complexity of this "all comes together" when Lila, in the fruit cellar, is confront with the TWO visons of Mother "together for the first time"(on screen): (1) The REAL dead Mother, (Mother had been protesting her placement there, "talking") and (2) Norman AS Mother.

Again, I ponder: I "get it" how Norman must dress as Mother to kill his victims(it creates "Monster Mother" so he can shift the blame) but I don't get why Norman dressed up like her to hang out up in her room when Marion(unbeknownst to Norman) arrives at the Bates Motel. What a life this character lives!


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How does he just ignore mother in bed if he's in her room. His room looks too small to stay in much and I doubt he keeps all the books he reads there if he reads a lot. Just his porn stash. He may have had record albums somewhere as he has a music player. He may have learned to cook in order to take care of himself and Mother. Next time, I watch I'll have to look for more clues to his hermit life with Mother.

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Norman's "hermit life with Mother" is the great "mystery behind the mystery" of Psycho. The story as we get it is first told "through the eyes of Marion" and then we accept the horrifying tale as we see it happen -- two horrific murders, a ton of suspense between and after them. But it is only after the story is OVER that we start a "second movie in our heads" -- wondering about Norman and his hermit life with Mother.

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Yet, if he didn't have much income except what he and Mother saved up, then he would be poor so where does he get the money? Is he on welfare? Food stamps?

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I tell you the truth, I don't know the history of welfare and food stamps, but I assume that some version of them existed in 1960. I recall the term "relief" (money) from the Depression. So Norman might have qualified(I doubt he listed Mother as a dependent.)

Norman Bates comparative poverty really separates him from other Hitchcock psychos. All are single men with no dependents, but Uncle Charlie has all that "widows' wealth" to live on; Bruno Anthony is a rich kid(he still lives with his parents and at least his FATHER realizes the son is a psycho-possibly the mother, too); Bob Rusk lives modestly in a one-room flat, but its in pricey London and he earns what looks like a decent living as a green grocer.

And what does Norman have? That motel. We can figure the costs of the motel are paid off. It can't cost THAT much to run -- just keep the towels and sheets laundered(a service truck delivers these, no doubt.) Rates seem to be $7 single and $10 a couple, so add a 0 and Norman got $70 from Marion and $100 from Sam and Lila(and from that old couple we never saw.) Enough to pay the bills and buy food? A few customers a month, maybe. But maybe "buttressed" by Mother's inherited savings(from the dead father AND from running the motel when it was successful, as it once was pre-new highway.)

Lila notes to Sam that the motel is a "worthless business" -- its likely more worthless than his hardware store. But for Norman, it may be just the business he needs to have. It allows him to "work from home," he can work alone, he doesn't have to report to a boss and suffer scrutiny about his home life or judgment about his performance.


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Anyway, "poor" is a relative term in Norman's case -- he has that great big house to live in(likely free and clear less property taxes) and a business that still brings in a little money. And he only really supports himself(less some extra food for Mother. Hah.)

By the way, Stephen Rebello in his book on the Making of Psycho notes that, among the elements in an early "Psycho" script rejected by Hitchcock, by a writer named James Cavenaugh, was the insertion into the parlor scene between Marion and Norman a moment when a tearful Norman shows Marion "repossession" papers from the bank: they are going to take the motel. I expect that Hitchcock didn't want to add that level of financial reality and sadness to the tale of Norman and his motel -- it would set the mind to thinking: so this young man's going out of business. What next? Also, the timing would be too coincidental. Marion shows up JUST as Norman is going to lose the motel. Hitchcock rejected the entire concept(which wasn't in Bloch's novel, either.)




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BTW, I heard Robert Bloch wrote a Psycho II, but it wasn't used for the movie. He also has a book about the house. I have some catching up to do.

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Yes, Bloch wrote his own Psycho II, and then rather than calling the next one Psycho III, he called it Psycho House.

What's fascinating is that Robert Bloch's Psycho II and Psycho III have NOTHING to do , plotwise, with the two movies.

Also interesting is this chronology:

1980: Alfred Hitchcock dies. So anybody wanting to "mess with Psycho" won't have to face Hitchcock's wrath if they screw it up. (Or more possibly: Hitch never would have granted the rights; his heirs gave them up.)

1981: With Hitch fresh in his grave, the Los Angeles Times prints an article about a coming "Psycho II" written and produced by two unknowns, who nonetheless promise the following: Perkins to return as Bates; Vera Miles as Lila(now running the Bates Motel!) Jamie Lee Curtis(of Halloween and Janet Leigh's womb) as Lila's daughter...and Martin Balsam returning as "Dr. Axelberg, brother of Milton Arbogast." Norman is an asylum escapee.

A week later, the Times prints a letter from Universal lawyers: the two unknown producers have no rights to Psycho, this Psycho II cannot be made. The two producers had even said they had Hitchcock's former associate, Doc Erickson, on board as a producer -- he had also worked on Chinatown -- and Erickson had to go public and say he wasn't involved. Later, Tony Perkins graciously said, "It was a good script by those two young men. But if you don't have the rights, you can't make the movie."



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1982: It's always been my hunch that both Universal executives AND Robert Bloch read that 1981 article about a "Psycho II" and simultaneously thought: "Hey, that's not a bad idea." So 1982 saw BOTH the film of "Psycho II" going into production(with Norman released from the asylum and eventually running the motel again, and Lila tracking him down to Gaslight him) AND Bloch's novel (with Norman escaping the asylum, killing Sam and Lila in Fairvale, and then haunting the production of the movie "Crazy Lady" based on his crimes.) Bloch's novel was actually published in 1982, a full year before the 1983 release of Psycho II.

1986: Psycho III is released, with its story beginning shortly after the end of Psycho II(though Norman has a new short, spiky haircut.)

1990: Bloch's novel "Psycho House" is published, even as "Psycho IV: The Beginning" reaches Showtime cable screens late in the year. Personally, I can't recall what Psycho House was about, beyond the interesting premise: someone is running the Bates Motel and house as a tourist attraction(SEE the shower of doom! SEE the staircase of murder!)...and a visitor is killed there.

One last interesting point. Robert Bloch had written Norman in Psycho as an overweight 40 year old in glasses; Hitchocck gave us Anthony Perkins. When Bloch wrote Psycho II in 1982..he never physically described Norman in the book.




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ETA: The Psycho Legacy Collection Blu-Ray is back in stock (German version), but the price has escalated to E295.97 or about $320.45 lol. https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Psycho-Legacy-Collection-Blu-ray/221563/
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Well, seeing that one gets every Psycho-based movie ever made(including the Van Sant and the first busted pilot "Bates Motel") I guess that's a price worth contemplating...but I think you can buy all those movies separately for a lot less. I have a DVD that has Psycho II AND Psycho III AND Psycho IV on it..for less than $20. Probably cheap copies...it would fall apart in a few plays, if I ever played it.

Here's hoping that Universal in its wisdom releases a reasonably priced "Special, Special SPECIAL" BluRay edition of the German cut of Psycho with those fascinating extra seconds of footage (and to me, questionable/controversial footage of the extra Arbogast stabs..maybe, maybe not real.)



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