Is this the weakest of all 'Classic' Disney films?
I know it's a kid's film, but even still the movie has a way too flawed storyline and compared to other Disney films it's just predictable and full of Disney movie cliches.
shareI know it's a kid's film, but even still the movie has a way too flawed storyline and compared to other Disney films it's just predictable and full of Disney movie cliches.
shareGive us a list of the "Classics".
shareNope, not at all. Even with its flaws, I can honestly say that this movie aged a lot better than Cinderella and Peter Pan.
Cinderella had virtually almost no plot (until the Fairy Godmother showed up), while Peter Pan had a lame villain and an unlikable protagonist.
Let the storm rage on, the cold never bothered me anyway...
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"Sleeping Beauty" is Walt Disney's masterpiece. Yes, its script was derivative, but the animation and score are truly stunning. It's the studio's most sophisticated animated film (I actually like this more as an adult). It has Disney's best villain, the best 2D animation of all time (unparalleled) and the best score. "Sleeping Beauty" is the pinnacle of animation.
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I agree with the OP. The story was predictable and the main character had no personality. Cinderella and Peter Pan are ten times better and more memorable, at least for me.
shareI thought "Cinderella" and "Peter Pan" were predictable as well. Tinker Bell was the only memorable character from those two films. The three fairies are the main characters in "Sleeping Beauty". The fact that Aurora had little screen time helped the character (it gave her an angelic quality). I think Walt Disney was tired of the princess characters and wanted a change. "Sleeping Beauty" is a flat out masterpiece that is far superior to any Disney film made before or since.
shareGreat post! Although I haven't seen Peter Pan yet. Maybe soon because I want to watch all of Disney's animated films again. 😊
Sleeping Beauty is my favorite 😍 but Cinderella is fantastic as well!
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Not to mention the giant plot holes it has, and the storyline is just absurd.
Aurora's parents destroy all the spinning wheels in the kingdom just to make sure she never pinches her finger with one. Why go through all the trouble and on top of that depriving his own people of using spinning wheels? Just make her wear some freakin' heavy duty gloves and save yourself the trouble, or put guards on time shifts to ensure nothing happens to her, and if she needs some privacy because Aurora needs to take a sh*t, then make sure there are no spinning wheels or needles in the bathroom. Or just ask the freakin' fairy godmothers to come up with something.
I watched it yesterday and I agree with you. Apart from the stunning animation and score, this film is soooooo boring. I barely watched it as a kid and now I understand why. Aurora does absolutely nothing, she's way too passive for my liking. Also, the plot develops very slowly and of all the characters, the only one worth mentioning is Maleficient. And, as you said, it's full of cliches.
I personally don't like it, but I praise the animation.
"Aurora does absolutely nothing, she's way too passive for my liking."
I am glad that Disney did not make Aurora the lead character and kept her screen time short (it helped give her an ethereal quality). I found Cinderella and Snow White very annoying. The three Fairies and Maleficent are better characters.
"Also, the plot develops very slowly and all the characters, the only one worth mentioning is Maleficent."
I disagree. I think this film is very hypnotic and involving. It was refreshing not to have a lot of corny slapstick, cuddly animals and musical numbers every five minutes. A sophisticated and adult animated film like this could never be made today (it would have to be much more juvenile). "Sleeping Beauty" is one of Disney's most mature animated films. I also disagree about the characters. I really liked the three Good Fairies as well.
"And, as you said, full of cliches."
Disney knew this film was going to be cliched and tried to make it as different as possible with the amazing animation. They actually improved on "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" and "Cinderella" (I think of those films as rough drafts). There were limitations in the animation in those films (Disney had to limit the prince character because they could not animate him properly). "Sleeping Beauty" was the film Walt Disney always wanted to make in the first place. How could anyone find the last 20 minutes of this film dull? The climax of "Sleeping Beauty" is the most intense and thrilling piece of animation Disney ever did (it hasn't been matched since). "Sleeping Beauty" is Disney's masterwork. Its artistry IS unmatched in animation.
But all you talk about is how good the animation is, and I absolutely agree in that sense. The scene where Philip fights Maleficient is amazing and I love the effects of the fairies' magic (how they turn the arrows into flowers and all that); also, the scene where Aurora follows the green light is hypnotic and I love it too. But, the characters have no development at all, I find Aurora impossible to relate to, she awakes and doesn't ask anyone anything and she seems like she cares nothing about her real parents. It seems to me that she has no qualities of her own, gosh even her beauty and voice were gifts from the fairies. It makes no sense. If I were one of the fairies I would have given that child a brain instead of something as superficial as physical beauty.
The way I see it, the animation is the only thing that makes this film "watchable", because the actual characters and story are very dull. I won't talk about Snow White and Cinderella because I haven't watched them since I was a kid; however, I want to watch them as soon as possible.
No, I stated that I liked the three Good Fairies, and I liked the fact that Aurora had short screen time in my previous post. Maleficent is also Disney's best villain. Again, the fact that Aurora had little screen time did give her an ethereal quality. "Sleeping Beauty" is a film for the senses. I don't think the studio was interested in really strong character development (the film is like a moving paining). I don't think it would have worked with the tone of the film if Aurora had a big and sappy reunion with her parents (the visuals and music do the talking in that scene). It's masterful. I found the story and characters entertaining. I admit that "Sleeping Beauty" is all about the visuals and music (that's what really drives the film). I find "Bambi" and "Pinocchio" very dull (both films had great animation). If someone is looking for complex characterizations and storyline then they're watching the wrong film. I think the whole film very entertaining and hypnotic. I guess we have to agree to disagree.
shareHmmm I actually understand what you say. I agree with your arguments since I myself find the film a masterpiece in terms of visuals and sound, but personally I would like more things other than that. Nonetheless I admit that Maleficient is one of the best villains and the three fairies are likeable characters (Merryweather being my favourite out of them).
The next time I watch this film I will try a more artistic approach, maybe I can enjoy it more that way.
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It is can be rather predictable, but then again, these types of films were based on well-known fairy-tales so a lot of people would be familiar with the stories and people would know the general gist of it.
You'll also find a lot of films with lots of Disney movie clichés, it's what makes up their general formula in most cases, so that's not a really defining reason why this film, itself, is weak or bad in particular.
One huge flaw with this movie is that it never explains what's with the beef between Maleficent and the King & Queen.
Just because she was not invited to the christening all of sudden she's pissed off and she puts a curse on their baby? Seriously, they couldn't come up with anything better than that? Obviously there has to be more to the story than that, but it comes across as a huge plot hole that this was never explained on the film. Hopefully the Maleficent movie will answer this question.
One huge flaw with this movie is that it never explains what's with the beef between Maleficent and the King & Queen.
Just because she was not invited to the christening all of sudden she's pissed off and she puts a curse on their baby? Seriously, they couldn't come up with anything better than that? Obviously there has to be more to the story than that, but it comes across as a huge plot hole that this was never explained on the film. Hopefully the Maleficent movie will answer this question.
In the original story (in most of it's variants) the wicked fairy curses the child simply because she was not invited to the christening. (That's spite for it's own sake, and all the motivation needed. 'Maleficent'' added a needless backstory which added nothing at all. ''Humanizing'' a villain is never a smart move when dealing with a conflict between good and evil. Take out the evil, and there's no story worth telling.
shareActually, it's not a kid's movie. Disney believed in making family films, which are films that can be enjoyed by people of all ages.
And why do we allow poor quality in entertainment for kids pass by saying "it's just for kids". That's very odd attitude to have. And don't kids raised on poor entertainment become adults who enjoy poor quality entertainment?
Ranting aside I think it's only predictable and full of Disney movie cliches because of all the films that have come after it that use the same tropes.
But when it came out it was very different from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and Cinderella. It tried to be more historical and less fantastic, using period appropriate clothing and sets.
The tone is darker and edgier, with a villain who is pure evil and gets away with swearing.
The prince has a larger role and more of a personality. He's the first Disney prince with an actual name!
The only downside is Aurora who is a rather passive character. While her dilemma drives the narrative her character doesn't bring anything of interest to the film.
The film is not perfect, but it did try to do something new and different. It didn't work at the time but I think history has vindicated it.
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Whatever it's shortcomings may be, it's way ahead of the 21st Century Disney "princess" movies, all of which will be forgotten in years to come while "Sleeping Beauty" is still acclaimed.
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