Very poor direction


The film is a mess, with many loose ends. Should have been cut to 90 minutes tops.

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Yeah, I didn't like that either about Rape not being a big deal - but I wondered over and over if it was intentional so we'd wonder if she wasn't really raped - that it was all some elaborate plan to get some money or something else - or for the girl to get her lover killed and get her hubby out of it - I don't know - I almost think we're supposed to imagine all sorts of true scenarios -

people say the lose ends make it bad - I almost think it's supposed to make us question everything and realize law is more of a game of who will win than what the truth is, which in this movie you get the impression you'll never know - Jimmy Stewart's character knows this and so he doesn't get upset about it. BUt one could argue he really believed them - he seemed to really need to believe them during the courtroom drama.

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Sorry, Openstorage, it's called "discussion"; it's something mature people do for various reasons such as to vent frustration (bickering) but also to come to a deeper understanding of something. Why did you come onto IMDB or this thread in particular if you didn't strive for expansion of your world? If you don't like this thread reply in a positive way or move away from it, you've got that freedom but don't blame us for using ours as well by continuing the discussion.

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. . . strive for expansion of your (my) world?

Pull the other one mate, and get over yourself!

I think you forget, this is just an insignificant thread in a sea of other insignificant threads! If this is the expansion of 'your' world, than that's really very sad.

So, the views posted in this thread are positive? I think you better read them back mate! If it were a choice of posting a positive reply or moving on, this thread would not exist, and it certainly wouldn't be ongoing!



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Positives can come from negatives. A person can frame and argument and discussion in any number of ways. Why are you on here - I guess it's specifically to make your mind smaller. Sorry mate.

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....Yawn, you bore me marra.

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Huh? I wasn't paying attention.

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Beautifully directed and paced. The movie was not simply about the case and the trial, it was about the characters and their interaction. It was about a time and place brilliantly captured for the audience. Bravo, Preminger!





"It's as red as The Daily Worker and just as sore."

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Very poor analysis.

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Detractors of this movie may be interested to know that: 1) the book it was made from was based on an actual trial, and was written by a real-life judge, and 2) Barry Scheck, who represented O. J. Simpson and is a renowned law professor and DNA expert, told Ben Gazzara (Lt. Manion) that he considers this the finest courtroom drama ever made. 'Nuff said.

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That's nice to know, but it doesn't change my opinion of the film. It's still overly-long, too much time is spent on local color and the jazz score is inappropriate. Many films are "based" on truth or actual events, but that doesn't necesarily give them any more credibility or make for a a better film. Having someone play themselves can seem more like a stunt than an artistic necesity

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Fascinating, how many people don't get this movie.

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No one mentioned those "points" because they have nothing to do with "bad direction."

The story is the story. Nothing to do with the director. The girl is a victim but also a tease and a drunk. If she wasn't a tease then there would be no exploration of whether she "asked for it"...which was a major point in the courtroom scene. You are not supposed to love her...the film goes out of its way to create sympathy for her, then she shows up drunk at the end and tries to give Stewart her girdle. She has learned nothing for the experience...she;ll probably end up in a similar situation in the next town she moves to.

Stewart is a smart man but also an underachiever who let his career slide, and his home and bank account reflect this. He buys an outboard motor rather than paying his secretary. He manipulates the court with the dog episode and his country lawyer aw-shucks b.s. Yet Stewart is such a good actor he creates great sympathy for the guy.

A judge can't be eccentric? Why? (I imagine you must HATE Charles Dickens, where everyone is an eccentric).

O'Connell's character drove without a license...because he drove without a license. The guy is an alcoholic....why would he let the lack of a license stop him? That is sort of the point, isn't it? That he is both very smart and totally irresponsible? Whats interesting about a dull, sober, responsible character going to gather evidence?

The "comedy" was dark humor. That's life. There is often levity even in serious situations. Really smart films often make you laugh in spite of gruesome subject matter (watch almost every Hitchcock movie...)

People are flawed. Rooms are dirty. Motivations sometimes make no sense. Characters do things that irritate the audience. This is called realism. Life is not tidy. It has loose ends.

The theory that all of this was somehow just sloppy, haphazard filmmaking is just...bizarre.

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The premise of this thread doesn't make me angry, it just leaves me sad. Perry Mason and Law and Order...really? Those are your serious alternatives to this movie? "Very poor direction" I thought it was a joke, but not only wasn't the poster kidding, several people chimed in with agreement.

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You have to understand certain audiences today don't have the power of very deep thought, understand dark humor, or appreciate realism in film. They've been raised on formulaic tripe like the vastly overrated courtroom drama "A Few Good Men," that is nothing more than dumb one-liners and Jack Nicholson chewing up the scenery in his usual mugging fashion, and Tom Cruise, who can't act at all. Anatomy of a Murder is so far ahead of any of these recent attempts to re-do it, and very few directors today can equal Otto. Possibly the Cohen Brothers and one or two either. The state of literature is even worse. It is the outcome of a total mass consumerism that has reduced people to their component parts. Even though it is the 21st century, we've never been dumber.

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OP obviously has never studied film academically..

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