Very poor direction
The film is a mess, with many loose ends. Should have been cut to 90 minutes tops.
shareThe film is a mess, with many loose ends. Should have been cut to 90 minutes tops.
shareI agree. The husband and I (both former trial lawyers) tried to watch this just now and we couldn't get past the first half. The jazz music, while great, was out of place and distracting - the direction was weird and jumpy, and the plot (in the first half at least) was extremely slow and predictable.
We finally put the movie back on and the second half was somewhat better, but I surely wouldn't call it the "best courtroom movie of all time." Excepting the good cross-examination of the defendant by the prosecutor, I didn't find the movie any more compelling than, in the words of my husband, "any old episode of Law and Order."
Edited to Add: Yes, of course I realize that Law and Order was "influenced" by older courtroom movies. Yes, I realize many people consider this to be an amazing film. But I didn't. I didn't think this movie was particularly remarkable and I much prefer other courtroom movies, both of that time period ("To Kill A Mockingbird") and later ("The Verdict"). That's all I was posting to say.
This movie came out in 1959 and Law and Order was decades later. If it seems like nothing special and like anything you see on Law and order it is more than likely because Law and Order was influenced by the film. Many courtroom movies are jumpy and it is possible that this was intentional.
To Kill A Mockingbird, released (I think?) around the same time = FAR superior courtroom movie for me. Perry Mason (1957) = FAR superior legal television show for me. It's not the time period, it's the movie.
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I could not agree more. Firmly believe this is perhaps the finest performance of Jimmy Stewart's career, and when you consider some of his other stellar works (The Philadelphia Story, Vertigo, Rear Window, ect.), that's saying a mouthful.
Rest of the cast is fantastic as well, esp., crusty Arthur O'Connell, one of our finest character actors, and a young George C. Scott, even before his role in "The Hustler.''
Law and Order? My God, that's pap television. This touched on themes taboo in society at the time. I can't think of a finer cinematic work set in a courtroom. The judge, played by the real-life cat who dressed down McCarthy a few years back, is priceless.
Duke Ellington, at the time, was just coming off a smash performance at the Newport Jazz Festival. It's no wonder his music was chosen as the score, and yes, it tied in perfectly to Biegler's love of jazz.
All in all, near perfect
loved the movie hated the score, very annoying to me. something like the galant hours and town without pity
shareI preferred its build up, with Stewart & co. going around town investigating & constructing their side. The courtroom allows all that to pay off.
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Preminger did the best job of of direction I've seen in a long time. The Jazz music and Court scenes make the movie. You have to understand that we are talking about a film that was produced in time in American history in which Jazz and "counter-culture" was becoming the norm. I think Preminger realized the change in American habits and music and added the music and attitudes to punctuate the reality of the situation.
Preminger did an awesome job in direction of what could be called an "all out amazing cast", Stewart,Gazzara, Remick and Scott, pull out phenominal performances as both sides of the gammit.
The scence in which Scott "inadvertantly" blocks Stewarts veiw of Remick makes it plain that Preminger had a very good idea of what it meant to direct these performers in stage that compells the veiwer to believe, rather than interject thier own thoughts about the case and movie.
Even though I was at home with the Mrs., I still had to stand up and clap.
The jazz score is not really integral to the film or the setting or the characters... Preminger just wanted to jazz things up. Many Preminger films Advise and Consent(62) Hurry Sundown(67) In Harm's Way(65) The Cardinal(63) Exodus(60) Bunny Lake Is Missing(65) and Anatomy of a Murder(59) seem endless
shareI love the music at the very end of the movie: a crazy high trumpet note that's like a scream.
As far as I'm concerned, there isn't a wasted minute in this movie. Everything relates to the case.
Interestingly enough, I'm just now re-watching the scene where Biegler gives Mary Pilant his theory that "I don't believe people are just good or just bad. People are many things."
Wow, I'm surprised by this thread. Just saw this film for the first time a few months ago and thought it was excellent. Yes, it was a little long but not as bad as you make it ought to be.
sharejust curious, as to what what you think is a great courtroom drama????? i thought this was excellent.
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HARMONICA: Jim Cooper, Chuck Youngblood!
FRANK: more dead men.
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How does it make no sense? I thought it made a lot of sense. Have you ever seen Perry Mason? 1957. Most episodes far superior to this movie in my opinion. And certainly not the only courtroom show of that time period.
Other than that - even if we assume that there were not "a bazillion, generic television shows featuring courtroom proceedings" back then, there certainly were many movies about them - and many were better. To Kill A Mockingbird, for example, as I mentioned above. There were also tons of mediocre courtroom movies made back then and in my opinion this is one of them.
I disagree with what you all think about the movie, but we don't need to be saying comments disagreeing with ours "make no sense," do we? There's no "right" or "wrong" or "sense" about people's taste in movies. We differ in opinion. Let's leave it at that. ;)
Here's what makes no sense: A former trial lawyer comments, "To Kill A Mockingbird, released (I think?) around the same time = FAR superior courtroom movie for me." Prepare your case counselor. Since you have access to IMDb information (you are on an IMDb message board), there's no excuse for guessing the time period of To Kill a Mockingbird (1962), which postdates Anatomy of a Murder by a few years.
Why do so many persons (besides the present company) on the IMDb boards argue their points without using the IMDb resources to get their facts straight first?! For some, it must be sheer laziness. In this case, I'll give the benefit of the doubt by suggesting they don't have the computer savvy to open another web browser instance of IMDb to check information without diverting from their current discussion. Not everyone here is a techie. [In Windows and Internet Explorer, right click any link and select Open in New Window. Press Alt-Tab to cycle among the open application instances.]
As to whether "Anatomy" suffers from length, musical distractions, pacing, and other directorial issues, compared to other movies/TV or not, the criticism is reasonable. Preminger was very Prussian in his directorial approach, taking no suggestions at all from his actors, and being rude about it as well. The planned sequel to Exodus was never made, at least partly owing to Paul Newman's refusal to work again under Preminger's arrogant inflexibility. Preminger didn't just discount other opinions, he flatly refused to listen in the first place.
Well, then, I was correct. It was released at about the same time. Thank you for clarifying that. ;)
Since I was just stating my opinion in an informal discussion group, not making a case in court, I did not find it as necessary to "prepare [my] case, counselor" as I would in court. I love movies, but I am not one of those people who takes IMDB quite so darn seriously. I knew To Kill A Mockingbird came out at about the same time period, so I said so and left it at that.
To reiterate, my OPINION (because that's what we're all giving here - lay people's opinions on movies, and not facts or evidence) was simply that To Kill A Mockingbird was a far superior film in terms of emotional impact, story, direction, acting, and just about everything else. I was also pointing out, to rebut several other arguments that this movie was somehow unprecedented in covering the courtroom, that other television shows and movies about lawyers were also around at the time.
First of All To Kill A Mokingbird was an exceptional movie in its own right and is accorded the respect it is due as such. No one that I have seen has suggested that it was anything but wonderful. But, TKAM being good doesn't require that Anatomy not be. They are in reality very different films.
Secondly, what was grundbreaking about Anatomy was not introducing the "courtroom drama" but in its introduction of subjects not previously seen in film. Find an episode of Perry Mason that deals frankly with rape. Words like panties and sprematogenesis were not common in media of the day. Nor was it common to see a woman describe the events of her own rape. In fact the film was boycotted by Stewart's father, who led a push to have it banned in Stewart's hometown of Indiana, PA.
Everything I've heard about Preminger suggests he was a real son of a bitch to work for, but he was also kind of heroic: He took on the Hollywood Production Code, first when they refused to allow even the word "virgin" (!) in a fairly innocuous romantic comedy in 1952 (The Moon Is Blue), which he responded to by leaving the word in and releasing the movie without the Code's stamp of approval. Perhaps the absurdity of this spurred him on to more controversial efforts: Tackling the still-banned theme of drug addiction in 1955 (The Man With The Golden Arm), making not one but two all-black musicals in the 1950s (Carmen Jones, Porgy and Bess), which a lot of Southern theaters might not even show, introducing the controversial themes and language in this movie, not to mention being one of the first directors to openly hire blacklisted writers. He knocked down a lot of barriers and filmmakers had a lot more freedom by the time he was done.
shareI'm tracking most of this well enough. Interesting to see how cleanly divided most of us are on this film. I'm not getting the Perry Mason thing, though. What a hokey, whitebread show that was. If you want to put Anatomy of a Murder up against some real competition on TV from broadly that period, try The Defenders.
shareI agree that Perry Mason was not a brilliant show. I do think some episodes of that show were better than this movie, though, in terms of courtroom scenes, which was all I was trying to say. Again, just my opinion. I haven't seen the Defenders, but maybe I will check it out.
shareI also think that the subject matter in 1959 was bold. I know that many shows look like this now. But before this film the most commons style was much less evidence based. More were in the "Witness for the Prosecution" vein where one persons testimony, usually unplanned, swayed the guilt away from the innocent person on trial. Here there were no innocents.
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Harmonica -- They were all alive til they met you Frank.
One Upon a Time In the West -- Nice quotes
Me I loved Anatomy. I'm a big Stewart fan and this is a masterful performance by him. I also liked the ending, it reinforces the fact that Lt. Manion isn't a decent guy. We have spent the film, on the strength of Stewart, hoping to exonorate a wife beating murderer whose saving grace isn't that he was under an irresistable impulse but that the man he killed was (ultimately) found to have raped Mrs. Manion, its the "he needed killing" defense. Manion references the "unwritten law" which Beigler rebuts as a legal fiction but the movie relys upon the audience being bound to just that law.
I disagree strongly with the original posters who compared this to 'Law & Order'. I thought the jazz was appropriate as well, considering the times and that Jimmy Stewart's character PLAYED THE PIANO. I'm glad Preminger had the sense to include Duke Ellington. I never get tired of this movie.
My only complaint is the guy who played the D.A. (not George C Scott, the other guy) was HORRIBLE. Very cheesy acting. He did a couple of "wha-, wha-???" lines which reminds me of Simpsons bartender Moe Sizlak. A quick check of imdb shows that this actor didn't do much before or after this movie. The acting otherwise was excellent, IMO.
Once again...I said (well, actually my husband said, but I agree) that this movie was no BETTER than Law and Order. Not that it was LIKE Law and Order. Obviously, it was not LIKE Law and Order and of course I agree that Law and Order was influenced by earlier courtroom movies and TV shows.
The point I was trying to make was, to me and to my husband, this is generic stuff we've seen before, and often, done way better (not just in modern day TV either) and to me was in no way as spectacular or "realistic" as we had heard, so we were both disappointed.
Ever watch Joe Pesci in 'My Cousin Vinny" (or was it 'Vinnie') anyhow, I think he should do a court docu-drama similar to this. Even though it was a comedy, he got my attention and drew me in to the case ! I can't believe he or anyone else haven't thought of this - it would be a change from the 'tough guy' role !
shareThe film was overly long. The dirctor wasted alot of time with the old drunk guy. It builds small suspense that goes no where. Even the ending I was expecting a "Witness for the Prosecution" type ending but it didn't come. Directors do wide sweeping shots sometimes, It is nice to see it in certain locals--Not iron city, Michigan. courtroom drama and the jazz are great though.
shareI think this is just a matter of different strokes. I definitely respect the opinions of the people who don't care for the movie, movies are a matter of taste. Personally I find "Anatomy of a Murder" to be a spellbinding, fascinating film with riveting performances, and to me the jazz score enhances the film tremendously. But believe me, if you don't feel the same way, that's okay with me.
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Dustin, thank you for saying that. Well said and I completely agree.
Opinions may differ, and I respect other opinions on this movie but my opinion of it remains the same. Opinions of movies are necessarily subjective. I appreciate those of you who disagreed with me without attacking me (or, in some cases, my entire generation).
Are you out of your mind? This is one of the towering achievements of American cinema, featuring brilliant performances by James Stewart and George C. Scott and a wonderful turn as the judge by Joseph Welch.
Preminger is letting the audience make up its mind, rather than crudely manipulating it like many "well-crafted" films. In this, he was a seminal influence on the early '70s auterist American cinema, such as Malik's "Badlands" and Coppolla's "The Conversation," to name just two films that ask the audience to do the heavy lifting (like a novelist would ask of his/her audience).
Life is sloppy with many loose ends. Do you think your life is like a motion picture or an hour long TV episode?
"Perry Mason"? Perry Mason is HOKUM. It's a joke, with the perpetrator always blurting out a confession towards the last commercial break. I often wonder how those confessions would stand up in a real court, since so many of them came from someone sitting in behind the bannister seperating the attorneys, judge and jury from the audience. An audience member gets up and shouts: "I did it! I did it and I'm glad!" The S.O.B. is not even sworn in! ZOUNDS!
If only life was so "neat."
The problem with the Baby Boom generation and its succeeding generations is that they want pre-digested pablum, served up in spoon-sized doses. THEY CAN'T THINK.
"Anatomy of a Murder" is a key film, from a key period in American movies, roughly 1958-1962.
Heavy censorship was still in place. The permissive ratings code that would allow cussing, nudity, sex etc -- via the "R" and "X" ratings -- would not come in until late 1968.
Meanwhile, European films WERE allowing nudity, sex, etc and a handful of powerful American directors sought to push the envelope of what would be allowed in American films as well.
This period saw: Orson Welles "Touch of Evil" (1958), Wilder's "Some Like It Hot" (1959) and "The Apartment" (1960), and Hitchcock's "Psycho" (1960.) All of these movies took on sexual issues in a forthright way and the American censor board chose to let them through.
But none of those was quite as DIRECTLY sexual as Preminger's "Anatomy of a Murder" of 1959. It's very title suggested that the movie would be about the human body, not only with regard to murder, but with regard to sex (rape.)
Here was a film in which words like "slut" and "sperm" and "rape" and "panties" were used most directly in an era when they weren't supposed to be used at all. Otto Preminger had fought the censors years before over the word "virgin" in "The Moon Is Blue" (1953), but "Anatomy of a Murder" took a quantum step up in this regard.
The film was also notable for its extensive semi-documentary footage of a most bleak and forboding part of America: the upper penninsula of Michigan. Many scenes were filmed on location both indoors and out; you can hear the echoes of the real rooms when the sound recording wasn't perfect. In outdoor car scenes at night, Otto eschews process shots and tries (hard to do in 1959) to provide well-lit shots of Jimmy Stewart driving his convertable down real Michegan highways.
Against a backdrop of a new kind of sexual frankness and bleak realism, "Anatomy of a Murder" offered a nicely ambiguous story -- a late Otto Preminger specialty also found in "Exodus," "Advise and Consent" and "In Harm's Way" as to: Who is bad? who is good? who is right? who is wrong? Otto wasn't one for easy answers, and "Anatomy of a Murder" doesn't offer them.
Just one year after his towering performance in "Vertigo," James Stewart here got the Oscar nomination "Vertigo" didn't get him. You can understand why: he's more like good ol' Jimmy Stewart in this one. But look again: Jimmy's playing a defense lawyer defending a brutal hothead who just might have committed this murder in cold blood, over a slutty wife who might not have been raped after all. Jimmy here fronted the idea that a good criminal defense lawyer just may not be able to CARE if his client is guilty; and Jimmy subtly plants the idea in his client's mind of "irresistable impulse."
In addition, audiences were shocked to see JIMMY STEWART talking about rape and panties in court -- but perhaps only Jimmy Stewart could take audiences to that new place in movies. Finally, per Preminger's technique, there are many single-take scenes in this movie in which Stewart must remember and deliver pages and pages of dialogue. That's Oscar-worthy. But Jimmy often was. (Chuck Heston beat him that year, for "Ben Hur." Ridiculous.)
Jimmy pits his patented good ol' boy drawl against fresh young George C. Scott as a tough prosector sent down to double-team Jimmy in court (with the feckless local DA)...watching Jimmy and George verbally duel is sweet science.
Jimmy also holds his own with simmering young method guy Ben Gazzara (as the hothead defendant), and their scenes have great generational tension. And Jimmy is downright funny trying to fend off the occasional advances of Lee Remick as Gazzara's "easy" wife (once, with Gazzara jealously watching from his jail cell window.)
As Jimmy spars with the young stars of the next generation, Preminger also comfortably surrounds Jimmy with a coupla' old pros as his legal helpers: sassy Eve Arden as his unpaid secretary and Arthur O'Connell as an alcoholic old lawyer who finds salvation with this case. Old-fashioned, but it works. The film makes a charming point: confirmed bachelor Stewart has fashioned his own family out of Eve and Arthur -- and the middle-aged single Eve may just be a wife of sorts for Jimmy, or will be.
The old of classic narrative storytelling and the new of a violent, sexual era come together memorably in "Anatomy of a Murder." "Perry Mason" was fun fantasy, and actually maybe better on court procedure, than "Anatomy of a Murder." But "Anatomy of a Murder" was a MOVIE, and a landmark one, and a sexy one, and a gripping one, and a funny one, and a fascinating one. And it lives on long after its shock value has faded.
That was one of the best written things I've ever read on imdb.
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shareCritics, both professional and armchair, should bear two things in mind when commenting about the direction of this film. One: for once, Preminger was impressed by an author and not only welcomed Voelker on the set, but actually relied on him for input and direction. He even referred to him as "Judgy". So some of the directorial blame (or credit) belongs to Voelker. Second: it's important to remember that the story was not Preminger's nor Voelker's either, for that matter. It was a thinly disguised retelling of a very true story, in which Voelker was a key player. That must certainly have played a large part in its direction.
shareI agree! Amost flawless review and response by ecarle. The one thing that I would add, which is not really a direct reponse to the original poster, rather a bit of history that viewers of this movie should be aware of, is that of the performance by Joseph N. Welch.
Joe Welch gave one of the most explosive, persuasive, disarming and theatrical performances in the history of "lawyering". And I don't mean in this movie, I mean in the McCarthy hearings of 1954. He almost single-handedly brought down the pompous and dangerous McCarthy, or at the very least he brought a swift end to an already declining crusade by McCarthy.
Even as great as Joe Welch's contribution was to our democracy, the most important thing was that the Congressional hearing of 1954 was broadcast live on television, and without TV the momentous occasion of the McCarthy vs Welch confrontation might never have happened. Or at least, there would not have been such a public outcry against McCarthy.
So (I am sure you are asking) what does the above have to do with Preminger's direction of this movie? Well for one, he hired AND directed Joe Welch, who had never done any acting or been in a movie. And I suspect he just let Joe be Joe, which resulted in a riveting performance as the Judge. This is just one more great aspect of his directing in this movie.
My apologies to all of you who already knew about Joe Welch. As a "former" legal professional myself, I am especially amazed that some of those messaging above who claim to be "former trial lawyers" could have been anything but riveted by the courtroom scenes. If for no other reason, just by being able to watch the great Joe Welch once again.
I suspect if these "former trial lawyers" could see a real black and white movie of Abraham Lincoln in court, they would probably get bored and switch the channel. We all know real court room dramas are (95% of the time) long-winded, boring, and as compelling as a trip to the dentist. But...then who am I to doubt the opinion of real "former trial liars" who don't have the attention span to actually watch a whole movie?
A great piece of history in many many ways, don't be too shy to watch this whole movie and pay attention. BTW, I have the VHS "Point of Order" if anyone is interested. I don't have a VHS player anymore, and would be happy to pass it on for a few bucks and shipping.
Joseph Welch was quite good as the Judge in the movie, just "amateur" enough in his acting to, ironically, seem that much more real.
For some reason, I love the moment when "Judge" Welch considers an important objection -- to Stewart's bringing the rape into the courtroom testimony, I think -- and silently winds/plays with his pocket watch for awhile before deciding to let the testimony in. It's an actor's moment. Welch also has a fun moment in chambers where he and Stewart talk warmly about fishing lures...to the consternation of the prosecutors.
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Actually, the word is "pabulum," professor.Check a dictionary. Both spellings are acceptable, Einstein.
Glentom, since you were a "legal professional," I'm sorry you think real-life legal cases are "as compelling as a trip to the dentist." You must have been in insurance defense. ;) Even if your opinion on real-life courtroom situations was true, what we are discussing here is not real life. This is a MOVIE. I completely expect, and even require, my movies to be more compelling than a trip to the dentist. For me, this movie was somewhat more compelling than a trip to the dentist, but not too much. Certainly not as fantastic as I was expecting. That's all I was posting to say.
I'm really surprised at the level of animosity towards me personally for having a different opinion on this movie. I hope that people will stop with the personal attacks. Taste in movies is subjective and there is really no need to attack people who disagree about this movie personally. But I'll respond just for the sake of having a dissenting opinion in this thread, since I think a few of you have scared everyone else away.
"I'm really surprised at the level of animosity"
Unfortunately I've come to be surprised when there AREN'T dozens of vitriolic responses to a dissenting opinion. No matter how articulate or well-reasoned someone's criticisms may be, they always get jumped on and attacked.
Well, you're entitled to your opinion of this movie, and if you found it overlong and not all that compelling, no one can argue with that.
But for you to argue that it's badly directed...that's opening a whole 'nother can of fireworms.
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And intercourse.
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Thanks ecarle for singling out Sam Leavitt's excellent black-and-white cinematography. Leavitt had just come off winning an Oscar for Stanley Kramer's "The Defiant Ones" and both directors would turn to him again and again.
shareNo, jonchopwood, I'm not at all out of my mind. Neither do I prefer my movies pre-digested - some of my favorite directors are require quite a bit of thinking, such as Lynch and Welles and Hitchcock. I just didn't like this particular movie and agreed with the original poster the direction was unappealing. I added that I found the courtroom scenes to be less impressive than I had been anticipating.
That's all. My difference in opinion doesn't mean I "CAN'T THINK." Just that I disagree. I add this because I was a little stunned by the way my opinion of this movie led you to totally denounce the intelligence of my entire generation. (Not only is that rude, but it's also just wrong. For example, you may have heard of a couple of dudes in my "can't think" generation who invented a little thing called Google?)
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The same has been said about Gone with the Wind & Wizard of Oz, but there are some that still don't like those movies.
Anatomy is a good movie, but just because somebody doesn't like it, doesn't mean they're out of their mind. Different strokes for different folks. :)
"Anatomy of a Murder" (a fictional story, not a documentary) is a great film in all respects--writing, directing, casting, acting, photography, music, and anything else that contributed to it. The more I see it, the more I like it. I wouldn't change a word, a camera angle, a light, or a note. In fact, I'm going to go to Amazon right now and see if there's a blu ray of it available. You are certainly not "out of your mind" if you don't like it, but it's too bad you can't derive any pleasure from it. Oh well, your loss.
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