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darkest most disturbing episodes?


there are some obvious picks like themes on dark events in human history such as "death's head revisited" and "he's alive", but there are some other different episodes kind of hard to listen at (i say listen cause i'm more used to the radio adaptations), let's say not suited for children, such as "nightmare as a child"?. go right ahead and mention "death's head revisited" or "he's alive", i really want to see your picks.

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"Long Distance Call." The Grandmother was pure evil.

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Night Call
The New Exhibit
Stopover In A Quiet Town
Little Girl Lost

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Although it's seldom discussed in a positive light I forced myself to watch The Bewitchin' Pool again the last time it was aired and man, taken just as an episode, leaving aside all that's wrong with it technically, as to its logic (etc.), it's a freakin' downer. The young couple literally lose their children, presumably forever; and the children are for all intents and purposes "condemned" to a Mother Goose "happy life" from which there is, again, presumably, no escape. Would you want to be a child forever, even a happy child? I wouldn't. That would be something akin to the first season A Nice Place To Visit: fun for a while, then living hell.

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"The Bewitchin' Pool," much like "A Stop At Willoughby," is about the price a person pays to achieve paradise (or at least one's personal version of paradise). Jeb, Sport and Gart have to ostensibly commit suicide in order to gain access to Aunt T. and Willoughby respectively. And I agree with you: Aunt T and her idyllic play land would become a hellish horror the more prolonged a person's exposure was to it. Willoughby, for me anyway, would also become a nightmare since I have little patience for fishing or those bicycles with the big wheel and the little wheel (I think they're called "velocipedes").

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I think I could take Willoughby, for a while anyway, as its utopian aspects feel post-moral, truly otherworldly, while my sense is that the moralistic aunt T would wear on me after a while. Childhood is wonderful, and as with so many things in life, part of the wonder is, when it's over, is that it ever happened in the first place.

In the case of Gart I sense that he was suicidal from the start (of the episode) and his longing for Willoughby for a longing for death. Not the experience of the town itself so much but bidding farewell to life as he knew it, which may be nothing much all, but that serene nothing, that Norman Rockwell nirvana, was a far, far better place for him.

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telegonus- It definitely is a downer for the divorcing couple in The Bewitchin' Pool! Even though they seemed to be uncaring at the time, they probably loved their kids. And now they have to explain to the authorities how both children have disappeared. Not a good situation. When children go missing, the first people the police look at are the parents. Even if they didn't go to prison, both parents were probably looking at a future like John and Patsy Ramsey, hounded and trying to prove their innocence for the rest of their lives.

Interesting that you see a forever childhood, even a happy one, as a living hell. I think a lot of people would like it though! This episode reminds me a bit of the Peter Pan Syndrome, the forever boy, the boy who refused to grow up.

That's a fairly common syndrome these days with some young adults not leaving home, even nto their thirties. I had a boyfriend who was a bit of a Peter Pan type. He lived with his grandparents into his thirties even though his job was almost fifty miles away. When they died he stayed in their house (it was old and falling apart) with all their old decrepit furniture. I used to ask him why he didn't get his own place and furniture. He used to say "Home is where the heart is". He spoke of his grandparents constantly and they'd passed away long before I met him. He reminisced about grandma's cooking all the time. It was as though he couldn't give up his childhood.

While we were dating (he was forty), his mother brought food and homemade desserts over for him every week because he refused to learn to cook. She used to do his laundry. He stopped by her house every Sunday after church with his insulated food bags to pick up Sunday dinner.

Just saying that what would be a hellish existence for you might be heaven for someone else. No cares, no chores, Aunt T doing all the cooking. lol

There are so many dark and disturbing episodes. It's hard to pick just a few. For me 'The Masks' is very disturbing. Jason Foster's greedy family had it coming. They only showed up for a "death watch", hoping to inherit his wealth. I wouldn't have blamed him if he took them to task for their terrible behavior.

A normal drama might have ended with them finding out that he gave away most of his fortune and they were only going to receive a pittance. But in this case, they got all his money and property, but now they had to wear the faces of those ugly masks. They HAD the wealth but how could they enjoy it condemned to live in the shadows for the rest of their lives? They were doomed to a sort of living hell.

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Your boyfriend sounds like Alex from "Young Man's Fancy," another dark -- and for my money underrated -- episode.

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Ex-boyfriend, EX! ha ha But you are right! Yeah, I forgot 'Young Man's Fancy', talk about never cutting those apron strings. There's a real creepiness about that episode that gives me a chill!

With the ex-boyfriend, it started to seem like I was in my own TZ epiosde myself. I cooked dinner for us sometimes but he started to expect it all the time. He usually wanted to take the leftovers. As soon as he came in my house he looked through the fridge and helped himself. Sometimes he'd say in a rather accusatory tone, "Oh I see you made chili" (or something else) "and you didn't tell me." His washer broke and he expected me to do his laundry. And there was a laundromat a few blocks from his house! He went from asking me a few times to just bringing over a huge laundry bag and saying, 'Mind doing this?"

I made a comment in frustration after he lost his wallet for the tenth time, "You've lost your wallet, keys, ran out of gas,etc" more times in the last few months than most people do in their whole lives!" His response was that we should get married and I could take care of him. YIKES! Marrying Peter Pan would be a dark, disturbing episode in my life. lol

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So sorry about your ex-boyfriend issue. There's a word in Italian for these types of guys: "mammoni," because they are forever mama's boys. It's very frustrating. I find "Young Man's Fancy" to be a complete and total downer-- more so than episodes in which someone gets killed.

I think a surefire way to weed out these type of guys is to ask them for help. See if they are willing to help you-- really with anything- like fixing stuff around the house, or taking out the garbage. Chances are they will not. One thing that really bothers me about certain men is that they are unwilling to help their girlfriends, but they are Johnny-on-the-spot when it comes to helping their own family.

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I agree with that. He's alive and obsolete Man are two that come to mind.

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Yes, and Number 12 is one of the best written of the TZ downers, and a far more intelligent and thoughtful episode upon repeat viewings. The last time I watched it, a few months back, I was blown away by how prescient it was.

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The fact that we don't know at the end if Marilyn was brain-washed or if she ended up liking the procedure is what makes this episode so difficult to shake.

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“Nightmare As A Child” is for my own nickel among the most disturbing of the entire series – simply because of the way it plays out. I don’t know about anyone else, but when I watched it for the first time a few years back, I couldn’t help but think of Chris Sizemore. (If the name is unfamiliar, dust off your memories of high school psychology studies, the chapters dealing with personality disorders.)

It’s not a “chapter and verse” sort of thing by any means as the story plays out, but there are enough hints in it to at least make a viewer say “Hey, wait just a minute…” Or at least I found myself thinking that, I should say.

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Peter saying to Helen he had a crush on her when she was a child is enough to put this episode up there with the darkest ones in "TZ," especially since he would have well been into adulthood when she was a child.

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Wouldn't you claim to have a "crush" on the only living person who saw you commit a murder? Helen could have been a French poodle for all Seldon cared. No matter, she had to be dealt with, which he fully intended to do.

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No I wouldn't. I think better ways exist of earning a young woman's confidence than a middle-aged man telling her he had a "crush" on her when she was a child. That certainly wouldn't put too many people at ease today and I imagine it wouldn't put too many people at ease then either.

Glowing Fish on "Everything2" had this to say about "Nightmare as a Child," in particular the "crush" comment, which I found interesting: "... but it seems to be a strange comment for an adult to make about a child, especially at a time when issues of sexuality were so tightly controlled on television that married couples had to be shown sleeping in separate beds. Especially since this episode deals with repressed memory, it is easy to read the drama going on as about something that not only the characters, but the creators, were not totally aware of."

And "Ryan's Twilight Zone Reviews" had this to say: Okay, if you remove the murder and replace that with Helen getting molested, doesn't it all fit? The guy admits to having a crush on a little kid, keeps a photo of her as a little girl on him, has watched her grow up creepily, and seems to want her even now! This would also explain Helen's willful forgetfulness better. Plus, this theory addresses why she became a teacher to help children and why she's still single. It all adds up. OR, I could be completely wrong"

He could indeed be completely wrong. But then again, the creep factor of this episode kind of sets this episode up for interpretations like this.

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I agree regarding Nightmare As A Child, AT, have analyzed the episode along the same lines. Helen had been molested by Peter Selden; the business over his handling her mother's investments and arguing over money was secondary,--maybe there was some truth to that, maybe not--but the central issue was Helen, not the murder, not the money. The real murder was of Helen's innocence that night, so traumatic that she buried it.

One only has to look at how over "made up" Janice Rule looks in the episode. She may well have dyed her hair, wore her eyelashes so long to look as different as possible from the blonde little Markie. Shepperd Strudwick as Selden gives off the most twisted diabolical vibes of any TZ actor I can think of,--Robin Hughes' Devil pales beside him--and his performance is brilliant in its repressed perversity.

From a purely psychological standpoint Nightmare is, in my humble opinion, the spookiest episode of the entire run of the TZ.

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She even forgot what she looked like when she was young which means whatever happened to her must have been seriously traumatizing for her to block out this period of her life so thoroughly.

Remember as well that Selden goes after Markie while she's in bed. We don't see Selden do anything though he doesn't need to; our minds will fill in those awful details.

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This and "The Dummy" are among the more intriguing episodes from a psychological standpoint.

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Room for one more honey....... 22
That woman always gives me the creeps.

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I don't blame you. I always feel dread as those passengers die and her dreams came true. I tell you margo that is another good choice.

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I'd say that and Night Call are the two that creep me out.

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"Long Distance Call," the short story "Night Call" is based on, is even creepier. Check it out if you get a chance.

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Long Distance Call is very dark. Glad the grandmother "gave the child back".

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Was the grandmother even on the line in the first place? I used to think she was but now I'm not so sure. We never hear her on the line (and while the mom does claim she hears her breathing -- possibly the single most terrifying moment in the series -- that could just be the mom's mind playing tricks on her). I think the episode's even more terrifying if the child, without even the old lady's prodding, tried to kill himself to be with her.

My question is how did something as messed up as "Long Distance Call" even get by the censors? Even today that premise is still a pretty messed up one. Kudos to Serling for having the audacity to put something like this on network TV. We've rarely seen its like since.

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I think the episode's even more terrifying if the child, without even the old lady's prodding, tried to kill himself to be with her.

I couldn't agree more! It's a horrifying thought, and yet, she and the boy were so close.

As for how this could have gotten by the censors, there may be something about that in the book by Marc Scott Zicree, The Twilight Zone companion. I'll have to look that up in my copy.
I did listen to the commentary on the DVD. That wasn't mentioned.

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I just love the subtleness of the supernatural element in this. The grandmother could very well be pushing the boy to kill himself -- which, incidentally, would then make her one of the evilest creatures to ever grace an episode of "TZ." Or, it could all just be in the boy's head. Either way this is one disturbing piece of television.

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did anyone else notice in "he's alive" about four minutes in the episode, after he's been in a fight on the streets, that the police sirens 🚨 is in synch with the look on his face and he looks like a kid screaming 😫 in displease? (screeching sirens). the scene where the man steps out of the shadows to reveal himself and the look on vollmer with the music along it just gives a horrific atmosphere thinking about what vollmer is going through in that moment, i'm reminded of a similar creepy vibe in the end of the radio dramatization of "the dummy". correct me if i'm wrong, but i think i read rod serling was very pleased with this episode "he's alive", as it turned out things had to be cut because of budget and that was followed by a consideration of a feature length movie. i can't believe i forgot to add "number 12 looks just like you". i'm listening to "the bewitchin' pool" on radio (starring karen black as aunt t.) while replying to this, and i thought you two were talking about that episode when actually "long distance call", but aunt t did not give the children back, with all the back and forth in and out of the pool (at least on the radio dramatization) i keep forgetting how it will actually end, i can't view that as a dark episode though, it's all light to me. pardon any confusion, english is not my native language.



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stunned by the way she came dressed,
struggled to keep eye contact,
helpless eye balls bouncing on boobies right n left,
as poor fabric seams steam to contain body blessed,
finally i managed to raise my head above,
she looked furious and i knew i already had messed up.

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Not quite clear on what we are discussing now. Are you talking about the same episode? We seem to be all over the place.
I see that at the end of your post that English isn't your native language. That can certainly add to some confusion. I still isn't a big problem. We all enjoy this show.

"stunned by the way she came dressed,
struggled to keep eye contact,
helpless eye balls bouncing on boobies right n left,
as poor fabric seams steam to contain body blessed,
finally i managed to raise my head above,
she looked furious and i knew i already had messed up."


THIS gives me pause!!!!! What are you up to????

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Not quite clear on what we are discussing now. Are you talking about the same episode? We seem to be all over the place.
I see that at the end of your post that English isn't your native language. That can certainly add to some confusion. It still isn't a big problem. We all enjoy this show.

"stunned by the way she came dressed,
struggled to keep eye contact,
helpless eye balls bouncing on boobies right n left,
as poor fabric seams steam to contain body blessed,
finally i managed to raise my head above,
she looked furious and i knew i already had messed up."


THIS gives me pause!!!!! What are you up to????

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If I counted correctly Margo there's 4 or 5 different episodes mentioned in that single post.

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Were you as confused as I was?

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Only until I thought to count! LoL

The apparent signature that caught your eye appears to be some cheap imitation of a Mike Hammer novel...

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❤️️LOL! Makes sense!
I think.....

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As they used to say in the Tootsie Pop adverts, "The world may never know..."

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I tried that a few times when I was a kid. I couldn't just count those licks. I eventually had to try to suck away that hard candy shell before I got to the chewy center. That was cheating!
As for PeterBlues, maybe he will come back and try to explain? To paraphrase,
"The world may possibly know......"

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Or Berlitz?

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Just for the record, PeterBlues, if you hadn’t mentioned it I’d never have known that English is your second language. The only obvious indicator (which could even be a simple error on your part) is the fact that you used displease in place of displeasure. Fast fingers are often our worst enemies. Whether that’s what happened here really doesn’t matter. You came close enough that with a little time and thought it made sense. English is tough – among the toughest languages there are. But you’re doing okay with it I would say. A little jumbled here and there perhaps in thoughts but that’s fine, too. It just means that at times we native speakers may have to think a bit more than we do in ordinary course. There’s not a single thing wrong with that, either!

What is your native language anyway?

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Elegy.

Creeps the beejeezus out of me.



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One theme which was very dark and disturbing was the power of nightmares to dominate one's life. Perchance to Dream and SHoadow Play.

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Sort of a precursor to A Nightmare on Elm St.

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That one seems to bother a lot of people.
I believe the one I said I found most frightening is 22.
One that bothers me is The Shelter. It's a perfect example of what was good about this show. It showed mob mentality when things get a little dicey. It shows you how fear can bring out the worst in people. It can also bring out certain truths like prejudice. It's a very powerful episode.

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An excellent take on what they were getting at in that episode. It's true. We have certainly seen plenty of examples just recently in the news.

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Night Call - 1964

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