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For me James Dean was too old looking to pass as a high school student.


He looked like he was a young teacher at the school.
To me, he looked even older than his age of 24 at the time.









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I agree with that. He did seem too old as did some of the supporting guys in the gang. What do you think of Natalie Wood? She was 16 years old when she appeared in the film.

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level compared to James Dean's.






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Frankly, he looks about 30! I don't know what he was doing in his life that gave him such a prematurely weathered face. The performance is just torturous. Overwrought.

As for Natalie, whom I love, she had yet to be glamorized. The huge famous eyes don't look so special here, and something about the nose, too. But she's fine in the film and seems teen-age to me. In fact she WAS teen age. The idea of Jayne Mansfield in the role is absurd. Then the movie would have been all about her breasts. Maybe that wouldn't have been so bad?

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He acted it well, and I'm sure that's what the director counted on, but it is too bad he played the part because it looks wrong. Anyway it became a classic so it's not too important.


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I didn't think so. I thought he looked young enough to pull it off, and he was excellent. He wasn't a really big guy and he had delicate features, so, I think he definitely looked younger than he was.

Also, I think it would have been hard for a 16-year-old actor to play such a challenging role.

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It's a good point because Sal Mineo was what, 15, 16? Could you see somebody like that in Jim's part? I can't, and don't forget Jim is 18, not Judy's age or Plato's. To be convincing, you have to play the part well, and I think James Dean had enough hang ups from his life from the adults who he felt did him wrong, his mother dying on him, his father abandoning him, etc., that he had enough experience as that tortured teenager to do it true justice.

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tion of whether someone like Sal Mineo at his age would be playing Jim's part.
What you posted wasn't even a realistic choice, so I don't even know why you went there.
What could have worked is if James Dean at age 17 or 18
had played the role.
He looks older than his actual 24-years-old at the time as it is.
It is not enough that he did the personality well of a troubled youth.






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Except it DID work with him as a 24 year old playing an 18 year old, a timeless tradition in the history of Hollywood that has continued for generations to come. If it DIDN'T work, do you think the movie would've been the hit it was?

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novastar_6 stated:
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"Except it DID work with him as a 24 year old playing an
18 year old, a timeless tradition in the history of Hollywood
that has continued for generations to come. If it DIDN'T work,
do you think the movie would've been the hit it was?"

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No, the largest reason of the movie being a success by far
was due the star power of James Dean. But he wasn't supposed to
be playing an 18-year-old. He was supposed to be playing a
17-year-old*, which makes it even more unbelievable, combined
with Dean's more mature looks. James Dean at the time could
easily pass for someone who was at least in his early thirties.


Fans and fanatics were willing to overlook big age discrepancies
because of their obsessions. The film did as well as it did, in spite
of James Dean not looking age-appropriate. That is, the movie was
the hit it was, *despite* "it" (the age believability thing)
not working.


And the phrase of yours "a timeless tradition in the history of Hollywood
that has continued for generations to come" adds no support to the
statement(s) that just preceded it. It's just a blanket generalization.
It is irrelevant.
What matters is *his* particular role in *this* film.






* "Seventeen-year-old Jim Stark (James Dean) enrolls at
Dawson High School."

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Without_a_Cause

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If you actually bother to watch the movie, you'd know he's 18. Since when is Wikipedia going to know more than the actual movie?

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@toldyou

You totally forget that in real life there ARE teens who look older than their actual age, so there really wasn't anything wrong with the way Dean looked. plus he played the part well, plain and simple. And, he frankly made the role more interesting/more complicated than just your typical stereotypical bland '50's teen role, which is part of what makes the film reasonate today. Believe me, not every teen looks their actual age, or can even look alder than they really are.

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Why are you "tearing him apart" :)

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And today there's a slew of teenagers who look 30, and they're built bigger, taller, hairier, etc., than Dean was.

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Too bad no one thought up 21 Jump Street yet. That would have been an ideal role for Dean circa 1958 or so if he'd had lived...



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The first time I saw it 30+ years ago I thought the same thing. I didn't think James Dean looked like a boy in his teens at all. I thought he looked too old for the part. I still do. Glad you brought it up.

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I think that some of you need to find some 1955 high school yearbooks and look at the senior pictures. A lot of them will make Dean look young by comparison.

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He did look a little too old for a teenager, but heck so did I. When I was 15, I looked like I was 20. I agree with the other posters, there are many teenagers who look a lot older than their age. I love this movie, along with his "East of Eden" and "Giant."

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I completely agree and he definitely looked older than 24 too, I have 30 year old friends who look younger than him. But I don't Think it was that big deal, he was Amazing and I Think it fit that his character looked Little older and rougnher.

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