Not impressed


(NOTE: Updated 29 July 2014)

Not impressed at all, given all the hype and high praise about this film. My expectations were not met at all. I'm a film buff, the one that barely stomach a 2000s slasher but is bonkers about the early Universal Horror films. There's some directors I really look up to with high regard: Jack Clayton, Robert Wise, Alfred Hitchcock, Terrence Fisher, Robert Aldrich, Orson Welles, Billy Wilder, James Whale, Tod Browning, etc. The Hammer films have a very special place in my heart. My childhood nightmares included the silent John Barrymore as Jekyll/Hyde and Max Schreck as Orlok.

This film sure receives a lot of commend and I'm pretty much feeling like I'm rivaling the world, but it's my opinion and my right to voice it.

Robert Mitchum, sorry to say, I found him to be blatantly and laughably overacting. His is one of the hammier performances I've ever seen, and I mean it in a bad way (and not in a good way like the great Vincent Price in Theatre of Blood). Not only was he extremely irritating to watch, his character didn't feel like a villain at all. At least not a villain in the vein of such a film. He was more like a caricature of a villain, the ones found in Looney Tunes cartoons. I've seen him in Cape Fear and he was much, much superior in that role. I can’t comprehend people claiming that the Preacher is his best performance (well, I guess it’s their opinion, too). I can picture many other actors who could do justice to the character and amplify the scary factor such a character is supposed to convey (eg Ray Milland, Charles Boyer, Vincent Price himself, Henry Daniell, etc).

Apart from Lillian Gish as Miss Cooper, I never felt any of the other characters were even remotely likable or had any actual importance during the context of the film. Many of them were incredibly obnoxious (*cough* Icey *cough*). The girl playing Pearl was atrocious. I could tolerate John. Shelley Winters was mediocre at best.

There was zero suspense. I was just merely curious as to the children’s fate, but that’s about it. Uninteresting main characters are the worst thing that can happen in a film, and this is a similar case. They’re children, yes, but for the most time, I felt that they were merely plot devices so that we could scrutinize the Preacher’s wild escapades. There wasn't any tension, apart from the scene were the children rush to the boat and the Preacher almost seizes them.

The film also seemed to endlessly drag for hours. There were a handful of elements thrown here and there but without any real purpose, meaning or development at all, e.g. the people’s hate toward the end (shown in the mob scene), the mild suggestion of child abuse, the barn the kids slept in (a scene which Laughton just put there so that he could show off with some marvelous cinematography of the Preacher with his horse), John shouting “No!! Don't!!” to the policemen that arrest the Preacher in the end, etc.

There were plenty of opportunities to convey some serious chills to the audience that were not handled very well: the Preacher’s insanity, his past murders of widows and their kids (clumsily shown at the very beginning with the camera slowly craning toward the body of a woman being discovered by children), his rage over children, Willa’s murder, the Preacher outside Miss Cooper’s house, the Preacher INSIDE the house. People call this film disturbing but it’s beyond my comprehension. I was disturbed by “The Innocents”, “Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte”, “Our Mother’s House”, “The Haunting”, “Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?”, “Rosemary’s Baby”, etc. But not here.

The cinematography, admittedly, was beautiful. There was a lot of German Expressionism in Laughton's visual style which I greatly appreciated. The music score was amazing. These things helped endure the film to the end.

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I highly encourage you to read the novel. It will explain all of the elements in the film that felt tacked on or out of place. It explains the motivations of all the characters very well, so you understand why things play out the way they do. It is also shockingly, beautifully written, very dark and lyrical and haunting.

I agree with you wholeheartedly...the brilliant cinematography and Laughton's beautiful German Expressionism visual style and the photography, plus the amazing score...are the reasons the film is considered so classic and so influential, but the narrative of the film has some serious flaws. Huge chunks of the plot which deal with character's motivations are missing, partly from censorship---some themes, such as child prostitution, had to be almost totally sanitized for the film---partly from the need to make it fit within a certain running time, and partly for the sake of the way Laughton wanted to tell the story in the film medium.

At its most basic level, the novel is the story of a boy who loses his innocence in the most heartbreaking way imaginable; because the adults around him constantly justify their selfish actions by claiming they're doing things "for the children". Just like them, Preacher justifies his actions as doing things "for the Lord" They really aren't any better than Preacher, no matter how vociferously they take the moral high ground.





He was tired. Sometimes he cried in his sleep he was so tired. It was the killing that made him tired. Sometimes he wondered if God really understood. Not that the Lord minded about the killings. Why, His Book was full of killings. But there were things God did hate--perfume-smelling things--lacy things--things with curly hair--whore things. Preacher would think of these and his hands at night would go crawling down under the blankets till the fingers named Love closed around the bone hasp of the knife and his soul rose up in flaming glorious fury. He was the dark angel with the sword of a Vengeful God. Paul is choking misogynistic wrath upon Damascus Road.





Read the novel. You won't be disappointed.

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I haven't read the book and did get this out of it. I could see how much was removed by censorship. I bet even today this film could not be made with what was subtle in this version obvious. It could, but people would bash it and call it irresponsible and it would probably be hard R or NC-17.

I on the other hand did get the horror out of it and found it scarier than pretty much anything else I had ever seen, and that is comparing it to similar "sinister and suspenseful" horror films like Psycho and Alien.

"You gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"

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Seriously, I've been wanting to see this film for some time now, and just today I did watch it -- I cannot write down how much disappointed I am.

Oh, boo hoo. I'm sick to death of jackasses like yourself who feel the need to share how disappointed they are with a movie that didn't live up to their lofty expectations. Get over yourself. No one cares.

"All this machine does is swim and eat and make little sharks and that's all." -- Matt Hooper, JAWS

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Oh, boo hoo. I'm sick to death of jack asses like yourself who feel the need to share how disappointed they are with a movie that didn't live up to their lofty expectations. Get over yourself. No one cares.

I have the right to express my opinions, smart guy, as does every jackass in these boards.

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Ok first of all, I'm not gonna start bad-mouthing you for voicing your own opinion of this film. However, I completely disagree with your perception of this truly great piece of American film.

As you rightly pointed out, the technical achievements of Night Of The Hunter are stunning, especially considering the fact that it was Laughton's only credited film as a director.

Secondly, I thought Mitchum (a real unsung hero of Hollywood's Golden Age) delivered arguably the best performance of his career here. He truly WAS Harry Powell & he delivered his lines with so much menace ("Chill-dren") while his eyes just revealed absolute contempt & hatred.

The atmosphere throughout is tense, unnerving & shocking at times especially when we see Powell alone with the kids. Nature is also used to great effect to symbolise just how cruel the world can be which adds to the overall atmosphere.

Finally, who can forget that tremendous, spine-tingling scene when the 2 representatives of good (the great Lillian Gish) & evil (Mitchum) are suddenly and just for a moment brought together in song. Breathtaking!!!!

Anyway, these are just some points that I think make this a masterpiece!! I'd advise you to give it another try because I think it deserves better recognition.

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Ok first of all, I'm not gonna start bad-mouthing you for voicing your own opinion of this film.

You can't believe how grateful I am to you for this.

I'd advise you to give it another try because I think it deserves better recognition.

I might rewatch it. I didn't say I hate it...I just said I didn't find it that good. But still, there's something that attracts me to this film. The whole idea of the movie is very appealing and fascinating and I am a fan of dark movies, especially old ones.

I am considering of reading the book, which I have, and then watch the movie. I wonder, if I had read the book first, would I appreciate the movie?

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I have the right to express my opinions, smart guy, as does every jackass in these boards.

Well, I just watched this movie for the first time myself a few nights ago and had to watch two more times the next two nights because I'm so blown away by it. I think it's an extraordinary and unforgettable film. Few scenes are as gorgeous and mysterious as the two children drifting down river while the little girl sings about flying away. And then it's matched mere moments later when the children head for the barn and hear a woman serenading her child with a lullaby. And then the topper with Harry Powell's slow march on horseback across the near horizon, heralded by his singing. And all that's before we even meet the Lillian Gish character, in a performance that I think is Oscar worthy. I think you missed the boat on this one, big time. I give it a ten, and I'm stingy with those.

"All this machine does is swim, and eat, and make little sharks." -- Matt Hooper, JAWS

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Uh, like you, everyone else on here is entitled to post their opinion. And you have site features at your fingertips as a user that enable you to ignore someone as opposed to starting a flame war that I, and everyone else, had no interest in reading.

It's a sad thing that your adventures have ended here

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I'm watching this for the first time Kotrofos, and I like it... but I'm just now seeing what you speak of as I'm hitting them parts of an... anti-climatic slowdown.

It is a good movie so far, but I am finishing it. And don't listen to these pretentious bastards who bad mouth you, leave them to dwell in their own stinkin artificial bull$#it. Not directed to anybody who contended your post or supported with straight up conversation, just the ONE who flat out called you a jackass and has a problem with opinion.

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Thanks for the back up orlock21. By the way, I love Nosferatu.

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I too watched it for the first time the other day after years of anticipation and can only concur with the OP, what a disappointment. I fully expected to like it but couldn't wait for it to finish after watching it for a hour. Robert Mitchum is in 2 of my favourite top 5 films so there's no bias against him. Maybe a bit unfair but I'm afraid I'm no fan of Lilian Gish either based on this film and an even worse one I saw recently for the first time, The Unforgiven.

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I just finished watching this and agree with you and the op, nothing social here at all. Like the op said, so many opportunities were missed to create some tension somewhere in this movie that was quite short, but seemed like it was well over two hours.

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For anyone reading this thread, the run time is 92 mins according to IMDb.

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clashwho^

Agree wholeheartedly with all your comments!

*mini spoilers*


IMHO, to label this movie as a masterpiece would be an understatement.

So many splendid qualities to it -- the direction, the sets, the cinematography, the religious & fable allegories & visuals, the character who is drawn from a true serial killer back in the day, the use of shadows and contrasts, the many different (some very subtle) depictions of good and evil, the dialogue, the performances...and more.

This film is pitch perfect.

It is not a 'pigeon-hole' type of movie and if someone is looking for a slasher/one-note thriller/edge-of-your-seat suspense movie then, no, this is not the movie for such a viewer.

However, I don't see how anyone could *not* view some of the scenes, such as the one with the mother under water, without being chilled or feeling at least a little creeped out.

Mitchum played the crazy sociopathic lay preacher to a tee – he was very creepy and how scary a predator he would be, especially from the viewpoint of parent-less children with, at least initially, no protection and being pursued by such a man.

I too am a movie buff, and the way I see it, if there is a film that has been so highly praised and has been the inspiration of such great and respected directors as Scorsese, Lynch, the Coen Bros, Spike Lee and more, then I would give it more than one viewing if, after the first go, I didn't seem to 'feel' or 'get' what so many apparently have gotten from this film, and before I would even attempt to critique it.




Just my two cents...





"We would have been fine, if there hadn't been any.....mess"

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Nice. Someone with a mean comment telling someone else not to comment. I think I can speak for all the sensible people here when I say that comments like these are the ones no one cares about.

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Well, I'm with you Kotrofos.

I usually like old movies even those from the silent era. When movies have passed the test of time they always tend to have some outstanding qualities. Maybe you won't appreciate those qualities all the time but still you can see them and understand why the movie in question has become a classic.

Not so with the Night of the Hunter which was quite simply horrendously bad. It's a movie worthy of turkey awards. Apart from the beautiful cimetography there just isn't anything that makes it acceptable to me.

Mitchum is overacting and makes you laugh two or three times like when he gets shot, when he hears about the doll and turns up one of the phoniest faces ever to appear on the screen and best of all when he tries not to catch the kids as they run up the stairs. Shelley Winters doesn't act at all. Lilian Gish does the best job I think. ...and by the way, Mitchum was great as Max Cady and Winters marvelous in Lolita so I'm not prejudiced against them.

The dialogue is terrible and the acting far worse than that. This is the most overrated classic movie I've ever seen. I have been reading all the praise heaped on it in the reviews and I'm puzzled to say the least. Are they joking? Is there some kind of irony implied?

And thank you Charles Laughton, you were a great actor and thank you for directing only one movie. That was more than enough.

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I had to watch this for a film class last year, and I hated it. It dragged on forever. Mitchum was, I'd agree, terrible in this. The characters were sort of earlier cliches of horror movie idiots from the 1970's through the present- doing the dumbest things ever, always doing what would get them caught by this slow talking, nowhere near menacing, halfway laughable "killer."

I, too, thought it incredulous to think he could kill anyone. The wife (it's been a year, I forget names), I remember she was as dumb as sin...the others weren't the brightest bulbs in the bunch either. Who could watch a creepy weird like Mitchum in this and actually root for him as so many of the characters seemed to do? You'd think being an *beep* and a weird one at that, would have thrown up all sorts of red flags, but no- they all loved the guy, thought he was the cat's meow, urged the poor woman into marrying him. He's a catch! Sure, in that, I-beat-my-wife sort of way.

Mitchum's over the top acting, and the character himself being so cheesy, just took me out of it completely. When I watch a killer, I can't laugh at him every few mins, it just ruins it.

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I was disappointed too. Harry Powell's just a bad a$$ character, but the whole movie is just waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too corny. The old woman narrating to floating children, little kids who outwit the bad guy (seriously, this movie is an old 'Home Alone'), and the opening scene of Powell 'talking to God'/aka 'The Audience' about how evil he is...ugh, bad writing. Still, I want to dress up as Powell for Halloween, 'cause Robert Mitchum's still great.

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Excellent.

I like how everyone is backing up the OP here and showing support against that fool who had to go and start bashing and being inflammatory FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER. It's nice to see that I'm not the only one on these boards who is sick of the (to use the quote) "jackasses" who feel the need to insult people who make straightforward statements honestly and educatedly, in terms of the film.

I also, personally, am not a very big fan of this. I saw it once when I was about 20 to see what the big deal was. I didn't like it very much then. Just this morning, it was on HBO and I gave it another go. I guess the first 1/2 is not bad with Shelley Winters, etc, but I find much of it to be silly with Lilian Gish, etc. She gave a fine performance, but I thought her monologues seemed forced, like she said to herself first, "Hm! I think I'll do a monologue now!". haha.

And I UNDERSTAND the point that "kids endure", etc. Do we really need 20 minutes to drive that point home? (including that forced monologue?) This could have ended 15 minutes earlier EASILY!

Whether agree or disagree, I'm glad to see that all but one poster on this board has a reasonable head on their shoulders and is as disgusted as I am by childish insults to someone who VERY FAIRLY and WITH EXAMPLES gave reasons for their opinion on the film.

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I was pretty disappointed too. Outside of a few stunning, iconic scenes and the remarkably serene Lillian Gish, the film is an offputting, disjointed mess with too many wtf moments ruining any engagement the viewer may have with the narrative.

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Agreed. Went in with quite high hopes, and left disappointed other than the acknowledged beautiful photography.

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Hello. I personally loved the film but wanted to address something you wrote:

"There were a handful of elements thrown in the movie and were left without real purpose of being there...e.g. the mob at the end, the child abuse, the barn (it's just there so that Laughton could show the Preacher with his horse), John's "No! Don't!" at the end when the Preacher is arrested, etc."

The mob scene relates to the actual case of Harry Powers - the real life "Bluebeard" that the film was based on, who killed two children and two women. He was called Bluebeard in the press. As for John yelling "No! Don't!", this relates to what John earlier witnessed when his father was being arrested at the beginning of the film. He had a flashback and that's why he called him "Dad" and said it was too much. He could not take the pressure of keeping the money secret.

I respect your opinion. Just wanted to clear that up.

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Hello. I personally loved the film but wanted to address something you wrote:

"There were a handful of elements thrown in the movie and were left without real purpose of being there...e.g. the mob at the end, the child abuse, the barn (it's just there so that Laughton could show the Preacher with his horse), John's "No! Don't!" at the end when the Preacher is arrested, etc."

The mob scene relates to the actual case of Harry Powers - the real life "Bluebeard" that the film was based on, who killed two children and two women. He was called Bluebeard in the press. As for John yelling "No! Don't!", this relates to what John earlier witnessed when his father was being arrested at the beginning of the film. He had a flashback and that's why he called him "Dad" and said it was too much. He could not take the pressure of keeping the money secret.

I respect your opinion. Just wanted to clear that up.

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I agree with everyone in this thread. I'm surprised there are so many people here that share my opinion. I thought I was gonna get cruxified by the hardcore fans here.

To everyone here who's disappointed with this movie as I am, I highly recommend two movies that will surely make up to you for The Night Of The Hunter. Both deal with similar themes such as religious hypocrisy, children in peril, lost innocence, and also both are dark fairy tales:

Flowers In The Attic -- After their father dies, four siblings are wisked away by their mother to go live with her wealthy parents at the imposing family mansion. Her plan is to win back her dying, bed-ridden father's love and inherit his millions, but in order to succeed she has to hide her kids away from him, so the kids' religious-zealot grandmother shuts them away in a distant room in the house with access to the huge attic until their grandfather dies. The kids think they will be up there for only a little while, but the days turn to weeks, and the weeks turn to months...

Our Mother's House -- An amazing British film about seven children, who, after their mother dies, fearing that they will be sent to an orphanage, they keep her death a secret and bury her in the garden and continue life as normal. They organize seances in order to contact her spirit (through one of the eldest daughters) and it only makes them more messed up and unguided by adults. Then, their mysterious father suddenly returns to the house...

The sad thing about these two movies is that Flowers is extremely underrated and House is a lost gem of British cinema, while movies like Night of the Hunter are considered "classics". Both movies are beautiful, sad, and exceptionally acted and, repeating, are like dark fairy tales/fables starring kids and I like them MUCH more than Night of the Hunter.

You can buy Flowers on DVD or watch it in YouTube (Part 1, Part 2, etc), but House is incredibly difficult to find and it's not on VHS or DVD. You can download it via torrent or watch in YouTube (in parts).

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I agree about Flowers, but the book is even better. I will have to check out House. Thanks for suggestion.

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Yeah, the book "Flowers In The Attic" is much more detailed, grittier, and overall more disturbing than the movie, but then all movie adaptations are inferior to the novels they are based on (with a few exceptions). But the movie, on it's own, is amazing. The movie is VERY underrated and hated because it left out a good deal of stuff from the book, but watching it as a stand-alone movie and forgetting the book for a moment will show you how amazingly beautiful and poignant this movie is.

About "Our Mother's House", I repeat that it's not out on DVD or VHS, unfortunately, but you can watch it on YouTube. But I'd rather you didn't watch it there - the quality is pretty bad. I suggest you download the torrent. That's how I got the movie. It's actually recorded from TCM. It's time that channel showed that movie.

Btw, I'm currently reading the "Night of the Hunter" book by Davis Grubb, and so far it's amazing, thousand times better than the movie. It explains a lot the movie didn't manage to explain, and the Preacher is actually scary in the book (the way I imagined him, though). I pictured him as Charles Dance in his late thirties, and I also pictured Willa as a young Diana Scarwid. I actually felt as trapped as John in the book, how no one believes him, not even his mother. So far I'm at the scene where the Preacher fools Icy and Walt Spoon (yuck names, by the way) into believing Willa abandoned him and the kids.

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Last day I completed reading the novel, which I thought was amazing! It was the perfect dark fairy tale, and also sad and depressing at the same time. It was beautifully and vividly written, and gave way more insight on the characters than the movie did and made me understand more of their motivations and feel more for them. As I said in my previous post, the Preacher was actually pretty scary in the way he's described in the novel (unlike the movie) and I pictured him as the great British actor Charles Dance (when he was younger). I also pictured a young Diana Scarwid as Willa Harper and an old Kathy Bates as Mrs. Cooper.

While I thought the novel had excellent, interesting characters with many layers on them - my favourites being the Preacher and Mrs. Cooper - and picturesque, imaginative prose and descriptions, it lacked that tiny something that would give the Preacher's character a little more depth and make him more three-dimensional (don't get me wrong, he was a scary villain and I really liked him).

Then, I decided to give the movie another shot, so I rewatched it the same day I finished reading the book. What struck me most was how faithful the movie was to the book. There are big chunks of dialogue and scenes lifted directly from the book and the overall movie was almost the same as the book (only the book was million times better and with more detail).

The cinematography and photography were still enchantingly beautiful, and the music score was more awesome than I remember it was, yet my biggest problem on the movie is Robert Mitchum. He wasn't the bonechilling psychopath from the book (although I admit his singing voice was fabulous) and he was still overacting in his hammy performance. He simply wasn't, IMO, as great and scary as everyone craves all the time, or at least as scary as the character was in the book. I don't mean his performance was bad, he was just campy. Then, if someone like me enjoys the hammy performances given sometimes by the great Vincent Price, then I won't shoot Mitchum. I really enjoyed him in "Cape Fear" (which I recently viewed, too) but I don't think was was fit for the role of the Preacher.

And I wish they could pick another actress that wouldn't be as annoying as Icey - God I hated her..."Yuuuuuuhoooooo! Mr. Poweeeeeelll!!" Uurgh!

The Chapin kid was actually quite good as John and I regret b!tching about his performance. The only time I cringed was when he delivered the line "He ain't my dad" and then he smiled afterwards. That's the only part that I was disappointed with him. Also, Lillian Gish was great as Mrs. Rachel Cooper, and though I pictured her differently in the book, her strong performance saved the movie for me. One scene of hers which says that she lost her son's love (and btw, her son and his wife were idiots in the book) but she still had those kids that weren't hers almost made me sob. Shelley Winters was OK.

The book is now one of my favourites and I'm glad I read it. It also explained a lot of stuff the movie ignored. But I hated the idea of taking characters' thoughts from the book and actually having the actors deliver those lines in the movie, which was a bad decision 'cause those lines don't have the same effect when you read them and then see them delivered in the movie.

I wish they could do a remake (directed by an expert - say, Tim Burton) and make it as hair-raising as the book. The book is awesome, and, while the movie was mostly disappointing, the book could translate into well into a dark, scary, gritty movie, if written and directed by a clever filmmaker who will use correctly all those small things that could send chills down your spine that weren't explored that much in the 50s movie. I don't blame Laughton for that, but the screenwriter, James Agee.

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The book is a great read, you are absolutely spot on!

However, I have to completely disagree with your take on the movie. In fact, you couldn't be more wrong. Mitchum's performance is regarded as one of his greatest performances. The whole movie is NOT set up to be your wall-to-wall thriller, it is an allegory, a translation of the emotions children go through.

The development of this great story is seen through children's eyes. You'll get a vision of evil through their eyes. The acting of Mitchum translates this wonderfully. At times (e.g. the celler scene) it looks cartoonish as if they were in this nightmare with the boogeyman trying to catch them.

A tough task to translate the poetry and battle between good and evil (from the children's point of view) into a movie but Laughton as scriptwriter and director succeeds wonderfully.

Saying that the flawed 'Flowers in the Attic' is a million times better would be the same as nominating 'Transformers' as best picture.

A remake?? This movie doesn't need a remake. In fact they've already done that as a tv movie with disastrous result. They tried to make it into this dark, scarry thriller but failed miserably.

This movie is rightly considered as a masterpiece of storytelling and filmmaking!!!



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Thanks for the update. I'll have to read the book now. :)

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Mother Goose tale sums it up for me. its a dream like atmospheric film. Is it cause he's English? They are so good at experimenting and making cutting edge but accessible works of art.

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