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Miss Kitty: Hottie or Nottie


Am I the only one that doesn't find Miss Kitty attractive? In fact, I think she resembles Endora from Bewitched.

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Suggesting that Ms Blake resembles Ms Moorehead strikes me as rather odd.

Regular readers know that I have a less-than-zero interest in females. But Miss Kitty is one of the few I find interesting. She's strong, independent, and unafraid, without in any way losing her femininity. There's nothing effeminate or "sissified" about her, the things I most dislike in women.

Definitely a hottie -- unless you're afraid of strong, independent women.

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I understand your "less than zero" interest in women, Grizz - but I'm a bit confused by your reply to rogredford. It seems to me you are giving Miss Kitty some sort of "backhanded" compliment....."strong, independent...but doesn't come across as effeminate" and the word "sissified" to describe a woman is really bizarre to me. We both know which segment of society is most often branded with the words 'effeminate & sissy' - and imo, neither word belongs in a discussion about her. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that the inference that women (from any era) can't be soft, genteel, SUPER feminine - and still crazy-ass strong and resolute just doesn't (imho) fly.
You say Miss Kitty has ALL her femininity - but she's no "sissy" etc - and again, imo, some (descriptive)
words just don't "translate" from gay to straight.



And to rogredford........ I think Miss Kitty could totally be related to Endora!!




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Speak for yourself. When I saw The Revenant, the box office guy didn't believe I was old enough for a senior discount. (I'm 68, with smooth, clear skin. I would much rather look like Festus or Gabby Hayes!)

Old photos show that women of 150 years ago did, indeed, age rapidly. Men were more tolerant of less-than-perfect female beauty -- probably because there were so few good-looking women.

Amanda Blake aged very well. Her Kitty has style and class. It's no stretch to believe that some men found her far more attractive than the Long Branch's saloon gals.

If there's any doubt as to what Max Factor (et al) have done for female pulchritude (artificial though it might be), look at photos of Cassandra Peterson, with and without makeup.

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Before 1965, Miss Kitty was thinner, younger looking, and while she did not have a really pretty face, she was not ugly.

She had a lot of attitude, a nice figure, and she looked like a fireball type of woman. I wonder if James Arness, Doc Adams, or Burt Reynolds ever tapped her for some sex??

After around 1965, she started to look like a bar hag. Her chin sagged, her face got jowls, and she looked like she was really drinking hard, and living a hard life. I do not know much about her personal life, but Miss Kitty's looks hit a brick wall around 1965, and she just gradually looked fatter and more like an old hag (Endora could be her sister).

Miss Kitty was not that old, so I think she was living a hard-drinking life. Too bad. It reminds me of Patty Carter (?) from LAWMAN, who died at the age of 45 from alcoholism. She was very pretty in the 1950s, and just over 10 years after LAWMAN was cancelled, she was dead...

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When I was younger, I used to think Endora was an old woman. Then I started watching the "Bewitched" reruns in my thirties and suddenly Endora looked kinda...hot. I thought Kitty looked good, however, you could tell that in the Seventies she was wearing a lot of make-up. Blake was 59 when she died fro AIDS complications.



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Amanda Blake was a heavy smoker, so it's not surprising she aged prematurely.

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....I thought Kitty was rather attractive in early episodes from around 55 to 60 or so but yes she did age rather quickly. MisterFranks... Are you referring to Peggie Castle who played Lily Merrill who ran The Birdcage Saloon? She died n 73 at the age of 45 from cirrhosis of the liver.

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Miss Kitty was not that old, so I think she was living a hard-drinking life. Too bad. It reminds me of Patty Carter (?) from LAWMAN, who died at the age of 45 from alcoholism. She was very pretty in the 1950s, and just over 10 years after LAWMAN was cancelled, she was dead...

That's what I was thinking about Peggie Castle. Her character Lily was also a strong independent woman. She served on a jury (a nod to real Wyoming history) and was the fire chief in one episode. She was very beautiful, the only thing about her I didn't like was her "singing" voice.

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The woman from Lawman was Peggie Castle.

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I think Miss Kitty is unbelievably hot. She's a firecracker. Sassy, tough, independent, feminine, a straight shooter, a business woman and smoking hot. More than capable of holding her own. Insanely curvaceous. Fire-red hair to match her fire-red personality. If you can't tell, I absolutely love her.

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She's been dead for 30 years, and the Miss Kitty you love has been dead for 50 years.

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She's been dead for 30 years, and the Miss Kitty you love has been dead for 50 years.


So...I'm not allowed to love an actor/actress that has died? Most of my heroes are in Westerns from the 50's (and earlier). So, yeah. I love a lot of dead people.

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So...I'm not allowed to love an actor/actress that has died?
That suggests a great MeTV promotion. They hire Haley Joel Osment to say "I see dead people -- on MeTV".

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Amanda Blake was beautiful, I think many would agree. After the early eps, she was made up to look more like a madam (though we all know that was never openly acknowledged in the show), and that might have obscured her looks to some eyes. I currently watch the hour-long b&w eps and she always looks terrific to me.

On a side note: the hour b&w eps of Gunsmoke represent a high-point of TV from the period. There are very few poor ones, and all well-filmed, and well-acted, and they look great on the DVDs

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It depends on what you mean by "openly acknowledged".

Several episodes make it clear that men visit prostitutes (making Kitty at least the de facto madam). And in "The Kite", she tells the girl's father to take her out, because "no child has ever been in the Long Branch".

Of course, by the time we reach "P.S. Murry Christmas", it's okay for kids to be in the saloon. Perhaps the prostitutes were taking the day off.

As for the show's quality during this period... It's important to emphasize that this quality was not an accident. The producers wanted a high quality program, and put out the effort to get it.

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I recall a radio episode where Doc and Chester got all flustered when a very pretty young lady got off the train. When they asked Matt who she was, he told them, "She's gonna be working for Kitty." It then sounded like neither of them could get home fast enough, when they realized all they needed was some cash.

Turned out the girl was a tease who liked to get guys fighting over her - until one got killed and Matt had to ask her to leave.

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Amanda Blake was an attractive women. Yes, they overdid the make-up at times but I believe any reasonable man would say she was a hottie, especially in her younger days.

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I find her rather bland in the early episodes. It's only after she starts "tarting up" her appearance that she becomes a hottie.

I've seen pictures of Ms Blake sans makeup, and the difference is much like that of Cassandra Peterson, with-and-without.

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In the earlier black and white episodes Amanda was a very attractive women in my opinion. I think some of the later color shows were poor quality and made her not as attractive.

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I think that the 1960s color TV westerns in general (not all of them, but about 50% of them), had a black and white film crew working in the color medium, and in some cases, the actors look way too red or otherwise just look odd.

The sets were also a bit hard on the eyes sometimes, and it looked like they were far too saturated with color.

I know that there are some color westerns, such as the ones with Randolph Scott, that are usually very good to watch, and the colors are less explosive, and look normal.

I think in the case of most of the western movies, the color palette is closer to reality. John Wayne did tons of great movies in color. Searchers for example, was a beautiful movie and the colors were vibrant, but they did not explode your eyeballs like some of the TV westerns.

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If you watch this all-too brief clip from Amanda Blake's 1974 interview on "The Mike Douglas Show"—it occurred shortly after she left "Gunsmoke"—she's still very beautiful at age 45. I'm not a fan of whoever was in charge of her makeup during the latter color seasons of Gunsmoke—way too heavy-layered which did her appearance no favors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xll-bDqVAhQ

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You're right, she did look pretty good. One thing I'll say about her appearance as Kitty, it DID make her look like an 1870's trail town prostitute...certainly one of the most realistic female characters (in terms of appearance) on any TV western.

Even her costuming was historically accurate...far more so than Jim Arness' was.

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Even her costuming was historically accurate... far more so than Jim Arness' was.
I hadn't thought of that, but you're right. Real marshals -- being primarily court officers -- were dressed in clothing approximating a business suit.

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I think the heavy makeup was intentional -- what you'd expect from a woman of easy virtue.

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I agree. She looks much better here than what I remember from the later color episodes. Watching the old B&W episodes from the 50s she is quite attractive. Her face isn't classic but still pretty. I read when Glenn Strange (Sam the bartender, whom she was close friends with, passed away in 1973 she decided to leave the show.

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I think that the 1960s color TV westerns in general (not all of them, but about 50% of them), had a black and white film crew working in the color medium, and in some cases, the actors look way too red or otherwise just look odd.
Not likely. The makeup artists would have been thoroughly familiar with appropriate makeup for color films. Similarly, the cinematographer (who is actually the lighting director -- he rarely comes near the camera) would have designed the lighting according to what the producers wanted.
I know that there are some color westerns, such as the ones with Randolph Scott, that are usually very good to watch, and the colors are less explosive, and look normal.
Cheap Westerns were often shot in CineColor, a two-strip process that could be used with conventional cameras. CineColor not only produced saturated blues (for the skies), but strong reds and browns. Greens were muted. This was the ideal palette for the American frontier.

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I agree that Miss Kitty's looks were overrated.

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Amanda Blake was very beautiful ... especially in the episodes from 1955 to about 1960. Then, she really did age very quickly after that (which probably WAS due to smoking 3 packs a day for years and years)!

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