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I just can't get into old movies!


I'm definitely not the type of movie-goer to only like big special effects and stuff like that but I've tried watching older movies lately, like this, Seven Samurai, The Red Shoes. But I did like 12 Angry Men and Psycho. I bet if I was around in that time I would have appreciated them more and would still be a fan today, but being born in the 80s I just can't relate to that generation at all. The acting and music USUALLY seem so tacky and just crap. It's obvious film has come along long way since then in every aspect. The older generation just refuse to let go of older movies and still think they are the best, but I for one just cant get into them. Apart from Psycho and 12 Angry Men, my next fave movie is 2001: A Space Odyssey, and then probably Taxi Driver and a few more from the 70s. Movies in colour, with actors who I know outside of the films they are in, with better picture quality and sound are just much more relatable to me. I know Marlon Brando was great in this, not because everyone told me so, I can see that, but maybe I would be even more impressed if I knew more about him, but I don't. So how can I judge his performance fully if I know nothing about the real him. But his transition from this, to The Godfather, to Apocalypse Now is enough to know that he was a great actor in his time

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OP: I know Marlon Brando was great in this, not because everyone told me so, I can see that, but maybe I would be even more impressed if I knew more about him, but I don't. So how can I judge his performance fully if I know nothing about the real him.

There's a solution to that - Wikipedia and 5 minutes of your time. Personally though, I don't see why knowledge of an actor should affect your impression of his performance. If an actor's doing his job well, the result should speak for itself. I'd never heard of the kid in Life Of Pi before seeing it, but that didn't take away from (imo) the power of his portrayal.

The acting and music USUALLY seem so tacky and just crap.

Many older movies (say, 'til the 60's at least) do feature a different acting style, especially the Mob-centric flicks. To me the difference is how they treat emotion.

In modern movies, like in modern life, emotion is usually expressed out in the open, or at least, if it's in private the viewer sees it. In old films like On The Waterfront, emotion is usually buried deep within a male lead, bubbling away under a veneer of fast-talking quips and bravado. Only the expressions reveal it, but when it DOES finally boil, it's released like an explosion of passion and fire - a furious monologue, or a sudden passionate kiss.

Granted it can look kinda corny now, but I dread to think what Waterfront would be like if remade in 2014. I just know we'd spend half an hour with Terry after his brother's death, watching him cry over photographs of Charlie, telling Edie a story about some fishing trip they took as kids to say to the audience 'Yes, he loved his brother'.

The 1954 version doesn't need to do that - the pain is visible in Brando's face and actions, which back then, was enough to say it all.

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It always makes me cringe when someone says (s)he doesn't like old movies or music (but of course, tastes are different, the only thing which makes me really angry is when people dislike things just because they're "old").

The OP thinks it's got something to do with being born in the 80s, but that's definitely not the reason. Some people just dislike everything which differs from what they are used to, that's why many young people nowadays not only dislike (or just don't watch) old movies, but also current movies which aren't formulaic Hollywood blockbusters.

But let me assure you, there are also plenty of young people who like various kinds of older films or films from all decades. Quite a lot of my friends (most of them were born in the 80s) like older movies (e.g.: "Lawrence of Arabia", "In The Heat of the Night","Citizen Kane", "The Court Jester", "Modern Times"), actors (e.g.: Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant, James Stewart, Marlon Brando, Steve McQueen) and directors (e.g.: Jean-Luc Godard, Sergio Leone, Fritz Lang, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Roman Polanski, Ingmar Bergman). I too love movies from all decades and genres :)

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I think the OP just contradicted himself.

He said that he "can't get into old movies", but then he goes on to say that he liked "Psycho and 12 Angry Men".

So I think that proves that you can get into old movies, but just not all of them. Which is the same with any movie selection. Some you like, some you don't.

And for the record, I think that Brando's performance in On the Waterfront was better than the one in Apocalypse Now.

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Well the ratio between liked and not liked movies from todays generation is more even than the ratio of liked and disliked movies from a few generations ago. I like very few old movies, because the whole style and acting is not what I'm used to. You didn't get great acting back in those days, it was all theatrical

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You didn't get great acting back in those days, it was all theatrical


Well I guess if you're a fan of the whole 'method' thing that took off in the 60s and 70s that pushed filmmaking to more realistic heights, then that's your beef.

But Brando wasn't theatrical, he was a method actor too, and he was part of the new generation.


Limit of the Willing Suspension of Disbelief: directly proportional to its awesomeness.

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How can you not love Stewart and Cagney and Olivier and Bette and Kate Hepburn and Arthur. It is impossible. Please get into them.

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Are you serious??? You're dissing many fine movies such as "Intolerance", "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" "Random Harvest", "Keys of the Kingdom", for starters.

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This always gets on my freaking nerves. Of course you prefer Taxi Driver and The GodFather and Apocalypse Now. They are not Classic Films. They are Modern Cinema. Modern Films. Also known as The New Age of Hollywood. New HOLLYWOOD for short. Classic Hollywood is also known as The Golden Age Of HOLLYWOOD. The period is from 1928 until 1966. Before that period it is called The Silent Era. That period is not Classic Hollywood or part of The Golden Age. So is New Hollywood. Not part of Classic Hollywood and not part of The Golden Age Of Hollywood too. New Hollywood time period is in between 1967 and 1981.




Some TeenyBoppers have even called The 1980s and The 1990s as Classics. Drive me PSYCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Okay.

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Coolbret-look for"Dead End","White Heat","The Public Enemy" and"Angels with Dirty Faces"
James Cagney stars in 3 -Bogart in the first...you may enjoy them -then tune into TCM and watch anything at random...open your mind.
If that doesn't work-open a BOOK....

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