this is so out dated!
I was so exciteed to watch this movie but it is so jumpy amd so un romantic and poorly acted (except Donna Reed!) that it was hard to enjoy. any one else???
shareI thought it was great!
shareIt is a good film but ever so slightly overrated.
sharePoorly acted my ass!
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Did you expect a film made in 1953 to not be outdated? As for the poor acting, i'm sorry but your crazy. Burt Lancaster, Deborah Kerr, Montgomery Clift, and Frank Sinatra were all fantastic, and all nominated (and in Frank's case won) for Academy Awards. There's a reason this is considered one of the greatest films in movie history, because it is.
shareI agree with you anny12, I watched this for the first time as a child. And while maybe at the time it went over my head it still made a big impression on me. And as I get older (I am now the ripe old age of 22) I only appreciate it more.
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you're 22 years old and yet you admire a film 55 years old!!! People like you should be held up as an example of good upbringing and opinion. Most people your age seem to regard black and white movies as something to be approached with extreme caution, and for you to appreciate the film more as you've matured is a wonderful reminder to me that there ARE people out there who like movies for what they are, not for when they were made.
I applaud you!!
oooh you just made me blush. I do love this film though and classic films in general. I went through a huge phase when I was very young and kind of never recovered. I movies.
Barbara Wynne:We must go,darling,we have the Bishop for lunch.
Clive Candy:I hope he's tender.
i made you blush?? lol!!
I must've said the right thing! I'd be very interested to hear what other classic films you like. I'm ten years older than you and i've had the good fortune of having a dad who introduced me to old movies at a very early age. To me, i see no distinction between a modern day movie and a creaky old movie made long before i was born. You seem to have the same outlook; i only wish other people have the respect you obviously have. I keep telling people that the new films will one day be old films too, but nobody seems to be listening!
oh well...you can't win them all
good health to you!!
hmmmm let's think. I would probably start with the musicals as that's where it all began for me. Watching musicals with my grandmother. Mostly all the big Rodgers & Hammerstein and Lerner & Loewe ones. I try to watch as many from whichever actor/actress I am currently obsessed with. So I've been through a HUGE Katharine Hepburn one favourites being The Philadelphia Story, Woman of the Year, Adam's Rib, On Golden Pond AND not forgetting The Lion in Winter. I'm pretty sure I did see Bringing Up Baby but it must have been so long ago it's definately in need of a revisiting. Problem is really 'old' movies aren't so freely available where I'm from so I have to order through Amazon and my poor credit card just can't take the strain! My latest obsession would be Deborah Kerr and Cary Grant so I am slowly working my way through their filmographys. Through this current "phase" I have discovered my new favourite movie The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp by Powell & Pressburger. Lordy! It's amazing. SO I will now be going off on a tangent and trying to see as many films by Powell & Pressburger as I can. ha! what a mouth full.
Barbara Wynne:We must go,darling,we have the Bishop for lunch.
Clive Candy:I hope he's tender.
have you seen The Rainmaker, starring Hepburn and one of my favourites, Burt Lancaster? also, check out Suddenly Last Summer and of course The African Queen! As for Powell and pressburger, i must say you've started some amazing cinema obssessions here - check out Peeping Tom, The Red Shoes for starters!
Thanks for the recommendations. I have seen The African Queen and The Red Shoes. I will definately look into the others.
Barbara Wynne:We must go,darling,we have the Bishop for lunch.
Clive Candy:I hope he's tender.
Can I butt in? Being a lover of classics myself, I find it heartening to find a young IMDB user sharing this love. You might be amazed, but a movie as recent as "No Country for Old Men" has received more votes on this site than great movies that are decades old. Just a few examples: "Psycho", "North by Northwest", "Vertigo", "To Kill a Mockingbird", "The Seven Samurai"! It is really a sad commentary on the quality of viewership today, but people like you will ensure that the all-time greats will remain greats for all time. I frequently show old movies to my 10-year-old daughter, hoping she does not restrict herself to movies of the times when she grows up.
sharecouldn't agree more! I've got my mate, who is 21, into Kubrick, and now he's starting to watch Hitchcock films and even likes the odd western like Rio Bravo! It just shows that when people have the sensibilities to actually want to watch something made long before they were born (and, at times, in dreaded black and white!! gasp!), our efforts in preserving old movies has not been in vain. I've as yet not seen No country for old men, but i'll wager it won't have the longevity of most of the old movies we all adore. In fact, i can't think of a film made this year that will be remembered in fifty years time.
shareI'm actually embarressed to admit I have not seen No Country... yet. I usually make it a point to see all the academy award nominated films/performances. I love films in general I just don't think that there has to be a distinction between "older" films and films released today. Good cinema is good cinema irrelevant of when it's released. It's wonderful that you are showing your daughter older films. I look back with such fondness with movies I watched with my dad (not old films - but still just that time spent where he was watching something like Aladdin or The Swan Princess not exactly adult films). Make sure you show her Mary Poppins, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and The Sound of Music (if you haven't already) those were my favourites when I was young. And everybody should see them at least once and I definately think they are appreciated more by a younger audience.
Barbara Wynne:We must go,darling,we have the Bishop for lunch.
Clive Candy:I hope he's tender.
I applaud you all young people, and myself for that matter for appreciating films like these.
I plan to watch it tommorow once it arrives in the post. Fact is it's only been like a year , and I've just begun to get closer to the REAL HOLLYWOOD filmmaking. My younger cousins and my siblings feel I'm an idiot but whatever.. they're as ignorant as anyone else who can't see the quality in these films. As of now the following are the films I've seen and I'm more and more educating myself using Imdb and my grandfather [he's a film buff for these kinda movies] ..
A place in the sun
the young lions
on the waterfront
roman holiday
my darling clementine
12 Angry Men
rear window
vertigo
the awful truth
so please do suggest more !!!!
I read your bio - it made for fun reading! Me and you are alike - we are very much ruled by the flickering image of a cinema screen. Basically, without cinema life would be very, very dull indeed!
I'm interested in knowing how many old films you've seen, as I've had the fortune of having a dad who is a film nut and i just automatically picked up his crazy habit and went on from there!
Films I'd also recommend are:
Sweet smell of success
East of eden
From here to eternity
elmer gantry
the searchers
shane
citizen kane
psycho
some like it hot
paths of glory (in fact, any kubrick film)
sunset boulevard
high noon
the apartment
lawrence of arabia
bonnie and clyde
rebel without a cause
a streetcar named desire
the list is endless, but these are pretty much essential! lol
happy viewing!!
Being a lover of classics myself, I find it heartening to find a young IMDB user sharing this love.
you're 22 years old and yet you admire a film 55 years old!!! People like you should be held up as an example of good upbringing and opinion.
I applaud you all young people, and myself for that matter for appreciating films like these.
Christ, people. We're talking about watching a movie, not curing cancer.
(I also like the "fine upbringing" comment. Yeah sitting your kids in front a tube for several hours the epitomized definition of outstanding parenting. )
Yes, movies like these are great and deserved to be watched (by an audience ensured to UNDERSTAND them), but folks, watching a movie is not necessarily an impressive feat which deems a person worthy of a candlelit shrine. Nor is it even rare. I used to think it was rare myself, and would have never (and still don't) understood how a child of today could sit through a non-children's movie from an older era...yet, if you pay attention, you'll oddly find it VERY common. When you think about it, entertainment was never made with the intention of being appreciated by one specific audience anyway, so it's only inevitable that most people will encounter and come to appreciate art from eras past.
Sure some people don't like them, but why should everyone have to? Some of these people are obviously not as consumed in their overall appreciation in film as you or I, and that's okay. Film is like anything else, a hobby, and people will invariably partake to different degrees. Meanwhile, some of them may probably have immense knowledge on other topics ywe may know zilch about. share
I'm 26, and some of my favorite movies include King Kong (1933), The Thin Man series, Charlie Chan series, Maltese Falcon (1941), and Nosferatu (1922). Back then, it took being truly creative to be able to create a movie worth watching, instead of CGI. My point, I guess, is that people my age and younger, who enjoy Black and Movies are not rare. It's just a stereotype.
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I finally watched Titanic! The ship sunk at the end...weird.
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WHY and HOW would you have watched it as a child?
WHY: I got into Classic film when I was about 13. The AFI had released their 100 greatest films of all time. So when I saw that the film had Frank Sinatra (whom everybody knows and whose voice I love) and Deborah Kerr (who obviously I had seen many many times in The King & I growing up) I was very keen to see it.
HOW: it was on TV
I am so sorry my post that I wrote almost a year ago annoyed you to the point where you felt the need to actually reply. Usually when people write things that I consider crap I just move on and don't waste my time replying. That being said why am I replying now? Lord knows! It kind of knocked me sideways to get such a mean spirited message. And all because I said I really liked this movie and saw it for the first time when I was a kid.
And I realise that 22 is anything but "ripe".
It was a joke.
George Bernard Shaw - What really flatters a man is that you think him worth flattery. share
Great actors bad performances
wayyy overated
Don't forget, this movie was made in 1953. I personally thought that Burt Lancaster's and Deborah Kerr's acting was a little stiff at times, but the other actors came accross well, especially Frank Sinatra, Montgomery Cliff and Earnest Borgnine. Jack Warden's acting was also perfect.
I was stationed at Schofield Barracks in the Hawaiian Islands where the book version of this movie is based and where part of this movie was filmed. I was pulling guard duty on Quad C when a civilian employee told me that this was the same quad that was used when Burt Lancaster and others climbed on top of the roof to shoot at the attacking war planes.
Watching this movie, especially the scenes that were filmed at Schofield Barracks, brought back a lot of memories. Even something as simple as a door closing on one of the quad buildings, has its own, distinct sound.
Whenever some people find out that I was stationed in Hawaii, they seem to think that all I did was watch dancing hula girls and sip coconut milk from a hammock. That's what I first thought, but I got educated, REAL FAST, within the first 24 hours of my arrival.
Some of the mentality and conduct that I saw displayed reminded me of the Oliver Stone movie, Platoon. One of the outfits I was assigned to was almost a carbon-copy of Platoon. Soldiers fighting among themselves, sleeping on guard, incompetence and strong unwillingness to help break in new people.
This may sound unbelievable, but there were military people stationed in Hawaii that were putting in transfers to go to Viet-Nam, including someone that I both trained and traveled with, and others who came back from Viet-Nam and stated that they had it better in Nam.
Whenever people ask me about how lucky I was to be stationed in Hawaii, I just tell them to watch the movie, From Here to Eternity.
"Outdated"..maybe only for the years that it looks at pre-war US, on Hawaii no less,land of the aloha. Yet the place was pretty tough for all those characters who were fighting themselves most of the time then later on to transfer all that "disgust" to the eventual enemy. Lots of loyalty and disloyalty in the goings on. Is that really the Army????? Is that what goes on in our beloved institutions? the fact that Deborah Kerr was coming off "Black Narcissus where she played a nun really had her going against type. Audiences probably just couldn't believe that she did what she did in the film. But hey that's life. "From Here to Eternity" is life.
shareHi deeveed,
I guess that nothing is perfect, yet a strong, national defense is mandatory. 911 is a good ie. To me, From Here to Eternity can give a view of the realities of military like, with its good and bad points. You may also want to watch some old episodes of Combat and JAG.
In addition, watching programs like this can reinforce the need for discipline. It seems that once you start stepping out of line, you'll eventually get caught.
Tight screening of people entering the military is also needed, but sometimes has to be compromised in order to meet personnel quotas.
I agree on the "good and bad points". the film really highlights it. I thought Lancaster, his commanding officer, Borgnine and Clift played interesting roles all so different from each other. It typified the kinds of men who were in the army at the time. Clift..doesn't want to box? How could that be? He is in a fighting outfit, isn't he? Lancaster's boss..an interesting officer barking orders..how would he do in combat? Borgnine...he certainly had issues didn't he? The army tolerated those guys in a supervisory role? And Lancaster...the efficient officer doing his duty yet he goes behind his commanding officer's back to make it with his wife. Talk about honor, loyalty..etc. FHTE, a great film pointing out a whole bunch of inconsistencies in how we lead our lives.
shareHi deeveed,
Your last message acknowledged. FHTE/53 should be used as a guideline for the proper operation of a military infrastructure by showing what can happen when people get out of line.
Ciao.
And I was just thinking that Borgnine was the "wrong" guy at the "wrong" time but could be the "right" guy in the "right" place if you get the drift...he'd be a match for what the Japanese would be like over there in the Pacific...
shareOr worse. Some of the torture stories that I've heard about WWII and other wars would make Borgnine look tame by comparison. Yet, having a fear like Borgnine hanging over one's head could act as a possible deterrment to keep proper discipline instilled within the troops. FEAR
sharehmmm....you mean to say that there were actually guys like Borgnine leading outfits??...
share by - deeveed "hmmm....you mean to say that there were actually guys like Borgnine leading outfits??"...
Wouldn't be too suprised. Might be one way to fight a war.
Yeah but they (Borgnine and co) were technically in "peacetime"......I guess he was practicing....;-)...
share Like was mentioned in FHTE, Judson is cruel because--"He likes it."
I've had the personal misfortune of running into some Fatso Judsons myself.
Just read today that the army is bringing in more recruits that are felons as compared to last year. Guess it'll always have 'Borgnine's!...;-)....
shareHi - deeveed
You're last post on Tue Apr 22 2008 05:08:5, is acknowledged. I read that article too. I'm not too big on felons in the military, but I might make an exception with vehicular manslaughter--maybe.
Guys like Fatson don't have a lot of leeway like they used have when dealing with felons particulary those who are hardcore gang members. Even the military has significant problems with gangs on military bases. You did not see members of the Mafia join the military in peacetime although they could have run some lucrative rackets if they really wanted to. Than again, the felons these days, would not put up with a guy like Fatson and would assault him. When I was at Fort Knox, the Drill Sergeant inform us that certain areas on the base were off limits at night because it was dominate by Afro-Americans. Nowadays, it seems that you can no longer take a peaceful stroll at night on an American military base for fear of being assualted even murder.
share"Fatso" ran the stockade, a jail for soldiers. Military jails were usually staffed by misfits who would not be put into regular forces. My father served in the Australian Army in World War II.
He was never in trouble himself, but he told me that when they closed the Army Jail at the end of the war Police had to escort the guards away from the camp because of the number of soldiers waiting to kill them.
I served in the US Navy 1968-1971. Did my time in San Francisco and at Pearl Harbor. At that time the Marines were responsible for security (ie, the brig) and it was definitely a place you did not want to go. I can imagine that it was much tougher 30 years earlier, and I doubt that Judson was much of an exaggeration, considering that Jones had served in the army around that same time.
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