Gorgeous, charismatic and so powerful on screen yet very natural and feminine. Its funny how her niche was kind of as the trampy woman. She's got way more class than any female star these days.
They sure don't make 'em like they used to. We're stuck with non talents who are supposed to be stars like Jennifer Aniston and Renee Zellwegger.
I adored Gloria Grahame. Her & Jan Sterling were 2 of my favorite actresses.
And NO, they do not make them like this any more. Just look at Elizabeth Taylor in A Place In The Sun. She was 17 when they filmed that. I don't know of many actresses today that could play that role at 30 let alone 17.
Two of my favorite films of Gloria's are The Big Heat w/ Glenn Ford & In A Lonely Place w/ Humphrey Bogart.
Debby Marsh is one of my favorite female film characters of all time. Right up there with Evelyn Mulwray in "Chinatown", Lorianne in "The Big Carnival", Gabby in "Marked Woman", & Marie Allen in "Caged".
Gloria's line-reading to Jeanette Nolan when she shows up unannounced at her house in the end is priceless.
I feel that Gloria Grahame's performance in The Big Heat is terrible. When she is scalded by boiling coffee, she seems more upset than in agonizing, searing pain. And when she then speaks to Glenn Ford after being bandaged-up, she's all jokey and philosophical about what would be in actuality, horrific injuries. And we of course later see her Hammer Horror scaring after she gives Lee Marvin a taste of his own blend. Marvin is a legendary badass, of course, so we can forgive Lang for not howling like madman after being scalded.
Lang's films are written about as if they were the toughest films of their day - really menacing and vicious. But to be quite honest, there isn't anything that special in The Big Heat, or most of his American films of the 50s. It's a pretty formulaic Film Noir and has a stagey style. Ford is very good, though, as is Lee Marvin. The contrast between the affluent hoodlum and the honest, moral detective isn't something I particularly like in many Film Noirs - I really can't stand Kazan's, Panic in the Streets. Sentimentality has no place in Noir. Early in The Big Heat, homey sentimentality is used to set up the shock moment when Bannion's wife is killed in what is very hokey and unconvincing car explosion - she doesn't have a scratch or soot-mark on her! Laughable for such an 'uncompromising auteur' like Lang. The music in the film is also mediocre. Lots of uncredited music - many of it stock - is used and Daniele Amfitheatrof provides more of his infamously decorative work. Legendary cinematographer Charles Lang, frankly, doesn't provide his best work here - Sudden Fear features far superior and inventive lighting - but then David Miller is no ones' darling. Overall, the film for me is a disappointment and has been overpraised. Don't get me wrong, I love Lang's work, the later German films - M; Metropolis; Spione; Die Nibelungen; Der Müde Tod and the Dr. Mabuse films - and some of the American productions, especially the magnificent Scarlet Street, Fury and Man Hunt, but many of his self-conscious Noirs are somewhat formulaic and staid. The best Noirs, for me, are the poverty row, low-budget/short-shoot entries, like D.O.A. and The Hitch-Hiker, shot on location, with great character actors, no 'Big Star Names'. When the puffed-up auteurs gave it a go, the results were too slick, glamourous and safe. Gilda is another case in point, though it saved by Rita's amazing sexiness and D.O.A. director Rudolph Maté's gorgeous lighting. But, for me, the best Noirs are the ones devoid of sentimentality, melodrama, romance, morality, above average budgets and Star Egos. The low-budget, shot-on-location, nighttime-heavy, darker-than-dark, existential entries are retain their most of their power. Allen Baron's Blast of Silence (1961) is the best example of this, though it is arbitrarily vetoed as a Film Noir, due to it being made after Welles' extraordinary Touch of Evil (1958).
Seen as a detective melodrama, The Big Heat is good, but is far from being an archetypal Film Noir.
"We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves in order to be like other people." - Arthur Schopenhauer
Ok, looks like I've got to be the first one to let loose on you for being the first one to insult Gloria Grahame after a long list of praising. So what, lee Marvin's allowed to take his burns like a badass, but Gloria Grahame is supposed to go screaching around like a lunatic? Who says Gloria Grahame can't be a badass too? Her character, who goes on a vengeful rampage, accomplishing in mere minutes what Glenn Ford has been painstakingly inching his way toward. So what if she dosn't recoil from the film screaming like a mobster's bitch. It is a testament to her character and her performance that she goes out and kicks some ass instead. And yes, she does seem to sort of laugh off her injuries to Glenn Ford (after a long scene of her being hysterical over her lost beauty) but perhaps it is her strength that is apparent at that moment. You can tell she dosn't really mean what she says about it only being half her face that's burned, and how she can go through life sideways. That's just her way of coping with a horrible tragedy. Her transition from happy-go-lucky party girl, to woman scorned, at once composed, vulnerable, and ferocious, is shattering and brilliant. I'd say she's a hard-core badass chick, a lot stronger and more original than what other actresses and heroines of the '50s had to offer. I will say that her performance in "The Bad and the Beautiful" fell short of my expectations. I like her in it, and I think she does a good job, but I think the roll in general is small and bland, and I can't see why she got the academy award for it.
As for the car explosion scene, '50s censorship did not allow a blackened corpse to be shown on screen. I agree that it was rediculous to show the body unscratched. The scene would have been much more hard-hitting if theyed showed only the car, and the undefined human form of his wife, and left the gory details to the imagination.
I didn't intend to insult Gloria Grahame - I blame Fritz Lang for the weaker aspects of her performance. You made some interesting points and I respect your opinion of the film, but for me, it was a great disappointment, but that happens to everyone - you may not like Richard Burton, for example, whereas I think he's great.
I actually reposted my bitching about The Big Heat on the Classic Film board in May, also and there was a short, but interesting discussion there. Go here: http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000010/flat/44444086
"We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves in order to be like other people." - Arthur Schopenhauer
Besides the censorship with the car explosion/wife it helps to know that dynamite is rated on its 'brissance' - or shattering power. She didn't have to suffer external lacerations to be killed. When they use dynamite at construction sites, they bore a hole into rock, stuff a stick down it, throw a blasting mat over the hole to contain shrapnel and then, when set off, the dynamite fractures the stone. There doesn't have to be a huge explosion. And don't forget cars back then were built like tanks. If they didn't go over board with it, she could have had every bone in her body shattered and not a laceration to her head/face.
I disagree. It does sound like you're ripping Grahame more than Lang, but don't think Lang deserves the criticism either. Her character Debby Marsh is a tough cookie who has seen more than her share of violence and corruption. She's turned off by it and doesn't like being treated the way she is by Marvin. If Marvin beat her up instead, and she screamed repeatedly as she took it all would that have been better? Getting scalded put her in pain and the shock of having her pretty face disfigured would have made her react that way. Lang keeps this story moving along with the right amount of set up and character scenes. That is, scenes where we learn more about the characters and they also set up the later action scenes.
The theme of this movie is important to me and not so much the story. The story doesn't have to be realistic in every sense of the word. What's interesting is watching the characters react and how they deal with the situation. We're not all like the characters on the screen and will think differently in terms of what we will do.
The ending really wraps everything up I think. It does add the right noirish touch so that you feel a bit cold after it's done. It's a movie that makes one want to discuss the issues and what the characters did, not so much the story.
If you get to read this - and not wanting to sound like a know-it-all - I assume you are aware that the line "We are sisters under the mink" is a take on a Rudyard Kipling's line, right? I'm quoting from memory, but the line is something like "Rosie O'Grady and the Colonel's lady/are sisters under their skin." If you knew this, my apologies.
Glad I wasn't preaching to the converted. I think Kipling is a great poet who unfortunately chose to sing of matters now politically incorrect.
In fact I misquoted the line. It is: For the Colonel's Lady an' Judy O'Grady/ Are sisters under their skins.
I cannot say whether the line as used by Gloria Grahame in The Big Heat is more enjoyable if one knows what the inspiration for it is. I think it doesn't really matter. It's great regardless.
The DVD arrived today! Wow... GLORIA GRAHAME was great! I liked her in IN ALONELY PLACE, but in this movie she outperformes the other actors, even Ford. Almost like Rita Hayworth in GILDA. As a rather "wooden" actor, showing/acting emotions was always difficult for Ford. (and was never nominated for an Oscar too). In IN ALONELY PLACE, GLORIA GRAHAME was on the level of Bogie. He must have felt (and liked) that, as Glenn Ford must have felt another Rita in this film.
If there was no Hays-Code, this film may have had an even higher rating!
I agree that Gloria Grahame's performance is great in "The Big Heat", especially in the scene where she kills that woman! And "In a Lonely Place" was another outstanding performance: definitely one of her best. Have you seen "The Bad And The Beautiful"?
You American people are lucky, because in America lots of "old movies" are available on Dvd; instead here in Italy it's a miracle if only 1 pre-1960 movie has a good distribution. I desperately wanted to buy "The Big Heat" on Dvd but I haven't been able to find it in the WHOLE Milan: I had to buy it on Ebay. Now I own also "Crossfire" on Dvd (I always watch that pictured scene with Gloria dancing) and "In a Lonely Place"). Plus, the American dvd of "Crossfire" has got a beautiful cover and some extras; the Italian one has no extras and a less-than-beautiful cover that you can see here
OK!
*Why not UPGRADE your DVD-player to a MULTI-REGION (all-region/region-free) DVD-player?! You than can watch ALL the worldwide released NTSC/PAL DVD's you like! I have upgraded the 3 brands of DVD-players in my home to multi-region too! So, despite living in region-2, I am able to watch and enjoy ALL the worldwide released DVD's and DVD-transfers I like. Especially those great "Noirs" from region-1!! => Upgrading your DVD-player in region-free lasts often less than 1 minute. (Or, buying a region-free DVD-player: http://tinyurl.com/npeg9.)
As far as noir is concerned, give me Robert Ryan over Mitchum any day. He and Gloria sizzle the screen in both CROSSFIRE and ODDS AGAINST TOMORROW, despite these movies were made a dozen years apart.
She was nominated for an Oscar for her performance in Crossfire. Does that tell you anything? It wouldn't mean much today, but back then it certainly did.
This is many years in responding to your post, but I just had to remark about your Elizabeth Taylor statement. I agree so completely. Every time I watch her in A Place In the Sun, it stuns me to remember she was only seventeen years old.
I can not even begin to imagine a young actress today having that type of maturity. Just amazing!
Now, I will go back to watching The Big Heat...and, the wonderful Gloria Grahame.
I like her too. Gloria's performances in Crossfire, In a Lonely Place, The Big Heat, and Odds Against Tomorrow are all first-rate. She's definitely one of the memorable femme fatales of film-noir.
Hey, you guys, I love noir, too, in last three months I absolutely fell in love with this genre and I don´t have nothing against Gloria, but she didn´t seem to me like the first class "noir woman" :)) So,maybe I can change my mind after "In A Lonely Place" ( very soon, I´m lookin´ forward ), but I want to mention the absolutely best little known actress in noir, which in my personal statistics can beat even the chicks like Rita Hayworth, Lauren Bacall or others. Who´s that? Jean Peters in Samuel Fuller´s "Pickup on South Street" Watch it and you´ll see SOMETHING ( and there is other similarity except their unfame. Jean peters i this flick plays the "stoolie", too ). Is her somebody who agree? I´m sorry fot the bad gramatic, English isn´t my cup of coffee. Czech republic, Europe :))
Pickup on South Street is a nifty film and Jean Peters is fine in it, but that movie is stolen completely by the incomparable Thelma Ritter as Moe. That is the film for which Ritter should have had the Oscar. That she never won even once is a crime and Pickup is the one she should have won it for.
Very interesting indeed, considering what happened afterwards:
Grahame's fourth and final marriage was to actor Anthony "Tony" Ray, the son of her second husband Nicholas Ray and his first wife Jean Evans; Anthony Ray was her former stepson. Their relationship reportedly began when Tony Ray was 13 years old and Grahame was still married to his father (which effectively ended the marriage when Nicholas Ray caught the two in bed together).
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How much better somebody like Susan Hayward would have been in this role. Especially when she confronts Ford after her face is scalded. That's a good way to describe Gloria Grahame: Susan Hayward without the, um, "intestinal fortitude."
<We're stuck with non talents who are supposed to be stars like Jennifer Aniston and Renee Zellwegger.>
She was. But the diss on Zellwegger......she did her own singing & dancing in Chicago, & thought she did a great job, especially not having singing/experience before doing this. I wouldn't call her a no-talent.
She wasn't drop dead gorgeous but she was pretty, had chraisma and I thought gave a great performance in this movie. I love Jeanette Nolan as well and thought they worked well together, I couldn't take my eyes off either one esp in the scene where she shoots Jeanette. Gloria should have been much bigger. I love all her movies.
Gloria was a great avenging angel in this one. Just loved the transition her character went through. Starts off a cocky gangster's moll, then becomes an assault victim and figure of pity before finally sealing her revenge.
I found her very attractive, too, especially when she did the dance with the cocktail and in her first scene.
Grahame was not gorgeous but she was incredibly sexy. Those two things are not always anywhere near the same thing. She exuded sex appeal even when she wasn't trying.
Halle Berry is extremely beautiful but I do not find her to be especially sexy.
Barbara Stanwyck was not particularly gorgeous but in Double Indemnity and The Lady Eve, her sexiness would have made most any man do her bidding without thinking twice about it.
Helen Mirren is not gorgeous but boy is he one sexy woman.
Now if you want beautiful AND sexy, I would go with Catherine Deneuve, Sophia Loren, Greta Garbo, and Vivien Leigh.
And if you want to see possibly the best sexy performance, rewatch Kathleen Turner in Body Heat. Whew!