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Was the American Switch REALLY necessary?


Let me just start by saying I have just purchased the Criterion version of this film and believe it to be among the best pictures ever made.

Now, a question about the difference between the British and American endings.
I'm aware that the ending shot of the film was changed when shown to American audiences in order to adhere to the Film Productions code in order to appease clause #1:

1. No picture shall be produced that will lower the moral standards of those who see it. Hence the sympathy of the audience should never be thrown to the side of crime, wrongdoing, evil or sin.

Now, here's the thing. I don't see why a switch was so necessary. The Duke LEFT his handwritten confession, on the table, in his prison cell. Isn't it then assumed that EVENTUALLY, someone going into the cell is going to find it and find out he's a serial killer? Isn't the ultimate irony of the film that he's going to get caught for something so incredibly stupid after experiencing nothing but luck?

The memoirs were going to be found, and he would subsequently be hanged. Was it really necessary to SHOW them being read? I mean, isn't the american viewing audience smart enough to realize what happens next without having it shown to them?

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The memoirs HAD to be read in the film in the American version, under the Code, to be sure that he would get his comeuppance. As others have posted, it couldn't be left ambiguous, or leave the audience thinking that he "got away with it" or it wouldn't get the film office's seal of approval. That's not to say that the film HAD to have the seal of approval (or whatever you want to call it) because there were plenty of post-code films released during the period the code was in effect. But there were plenty of distributors, theatre chains, film reviewers and so forth who would never touch a film not approved. Newspapers, magazine, radio & other media wouldn't publicize non-code films. And there was lots more competition for good box office in those days before television. There were plenty of other films out there getting big publicity and packing them into theatres, and an unpublicized film running in an off-brand theatre would have no chance. Even with the Code's stamp of approval, there were some films that couldn't overcome local civic or religious opposition at time. "Banned in Boston!" and "But will it play in Peoria" are two old phrases that come from the period...and actually, by the 50's & 60's, "Banned in Boston" was used in advertising in other towns as kind of a "nudge, nudge, wink, wink...you'll probably see bare boobs and lots of sex in this flick!"

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It is rather silly.

But the British Board of Censors has made equally ridiculous cuts to American films.

So it happens everywhere ... unfortunately.

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OP: "The memoirs were going to be found, and he would subsequently be hanged. Was it really necessary to SHOW them being read? I mean, isn't the american viewing audience smart enough to realize what happens next without having it shown to them?"
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it's funny that some posters have called the hayes ending a "sledgehammer" ending. because i could say the same about the original ending. when he said at the end, essentially, "oh crap, my memoirs!" was it really necessary to SHOW the memoirs on the table? i mean, isn't the british viewing audience smart enough to realize what happens next without having it shown to them? you could take it one step further, and ask why he had to comment on his memoirs being forgotten, why not leave it to the observant audience to notice that he is leaving without them? one man's flyswatter is another man's sledgehammer.

as for other posters who used this issue to rail against american moralism, it seems a little late to criticize 1940's america. and if you are going to, there are much more important flaws to criticize than film editing. i think americans made up for moralistic endings with the usual suspects, primal fear, etc., just to name a couple that come to mind instantly.

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When I saw this shown on American tv about fifteen years ago, they didn't show the Hayes ending. Didn't even know about it until now. Ick. The ambiguous ending is better, because I knew back then that Louis could just walk back in the prison and ask for his papers back. They'd surely give a Duke back his possessions without question. The real question for me was which woman was he going to off? My money was on Sibella, since she knew too much and had proven that she was as ruthless as he was. She could easily do another 'Lionel' on him later, and she knows about his murders. Plus, she's never done anything that he'd be able to use against her in a similar fashion. I'd stomp out Sibella no matter how sexually attractive I found her, out of ruthless practicality.

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Yes, the American ending sucks and luckily most of history bares this out and ignores the ending. Didn't England do the same thing on Vertigo where they made the producers film a scene where Gavin is arrested for murder. I still wonder how Hitch got the Gavin character not arrested but always assumed the censors were too stupid or fell asleep on this one. Of course, Hitch barely shows the murder in flashback but Gavin did "get away with murder." (Or better yet, the Gavin character is completely forgotten about and becomes a MacGuffin.) And Vertigo is better for it.

The funniest ending is Detour when Al is aimlessly walking in his own private hell and the police very politely picks him up. It was done so half-assed it almost makes the arrest seem like a dream or someday the arrest will happen.

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Thank God I've never seen the American version!

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A similar thing happened with Alfred Hitchcock's anthology series in the US in the 60s. Most of the stories had the criminal getting away with it. So, in his appearance at the end of each show, he had to come right out and explain that the crook was actually caught, because of "" - and then give a reason.

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I'm American , seen this film on TV over the years and, luckily, never seen any ending but the English-never heard of an added Amer. end-how awful that sounds.I always thought Louis could go back for his papers also-real problem ,the ladies.

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My comment is that if they Hays code said that you couldn't benefit from crime, how was Sibela going to be punished. She lied under oath and was plotting Edith's murder but she would hbe walked away.

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It has happened in the opposite direction too. (US -> UK) In the last scene of VERTIGO a woman tells a detective about a man arranging a murder. The British insisted that Hitchcock add a scene specifying that the man had been arrested for it, as if the audience was too stupid to figure that out.

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The memoirs were going to be found, and he would subsequently be hanged.


Not necessarily. Maybe he's about to ask if he can go back and retrieve his diary. We don't know what happens next. It's deliberately ambiguous, along with the question of which woman (if either) he would choose, whether or not it would last, and all sorts of other "what's going to happen next?" questions.

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