raymond burr - creep factor high
man was this dude a creepazoid deluxe in this flick
Just about all his movies prior to Perry Mason on television he played a creep or sciopath of some sort. One film that comes to mind is his role in Rear W@indow in 1954.
shareYou really want to see Burr at his most wicked? Watch him in Raw Deal, as he effortlessly tosses a flaming flambeau rod at a girl's face!
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He was extremely creepy in this film as well as Rear Window. I'll have to watch Raw Deal as it's available on youtube.
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Yes, Raw Deal is the real deal, and he is really a bum in that one. Hopefully, it is still on YouTube.
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I watched Raw Deal and thought it was great. Burr is indeed a great "heavy." I even watched the other Raw Deal with Arnold Schwarzenegger. I found out it was an entirely different movie. But it made me realize why I like the older classics. At one point Arnold shoots (murders?) about 30 people all by himself.
He was always awesome as a heavy. And he didn't have to shoot 30 people in a row to prove that he's a bad guy.
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As a child watching old movies,on tv, Raymond Burr was always the "bad guy'. To see this actor as I became older, watching reruns of Perry Mason ,as a "good guy" was amazing..I was born in the early 1960';s, Mr. Burr's talent is incredible. Don"t forget Ironside.
shareThe American release of "Godzilla" was the turning point, when he changed from bad guy to good guy. "Perrry Mason" secured it forever.
shareIt's funny how Burr, who was so good at playing bad guys--"Blue Gardenia" is another example--went on to become the ultimate good guy in "Perry Mason"
shareI think his character in Blue Gardenia is similar to the one he plays here. (But most of all he reminds me of my ex…)
Burr deserved to play a paragon of virtue after 10 years of playing all kinds of villains. Crime boss, kidnapper, white slave trader, drug dealer, ivory poacher, rapist…and some good old-fashioned murderers, of course. And when he got to play the lover (Please Murder Me, Crime of Passion), it was in an adulterous relationship. Time for a break!
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I wasn't the least bit surprised by how effective he was as the bad guy in this. His performance in "Raw Deal" alone proved to me that this guy was made to play vicious villains.
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I've seen many movies with him as the bad guy, and I think my favorites are his performances in Raw Deal, Pitfall and Red Light. Also pretty good in Desperate. When he played softer villains, Borderline and The Blue Gardenia come in mind, he was funny, too, but I liked him best when he was sadistic, vengeful, scheming and sexually dysfunctional.
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... and who could forget him in 'Godzilla, King of the Monsters! (1956)' LOL !!
With all those psycho/bad guy roles, I'm surprised he was able to make the transition to good guy Perry Mason ....
What happened to the old theory of 'type casting' ?
In the 50s, he was obviously exploring some new territory. Hitchcock and Godzilla, and some dabbling in playing the lover, like that awful Bride of the Gorilla flick, or Crime of Passion, or Please murder me. — In Please murder me, we already have a Perry Mason prototype. That ear stroking thing, the way he says "No questions."
It is often claimed that it was his part as the D.A. in A Place in the Sun that got him the part of Perry Mason, but I think it also helped that he looked like the Perry Mason of the books — and by analogy, like Erle Stanley Gardener himself. ESG created the character as a fictionalized, glamorized version of himself. It did not bother anybody that Burger and Tragg looked nothing like their counterparts from the books, but I guess ESG wanted an actor who looked a little like him…only better.
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I read somewhere that ESG was hugely impressed with William Talman as Hamilton Burger. If Talman's Burger didn't physically resemble his literary counterpart, Talman / Burger still had the attitude right in the author's estimation, as if to say "I don't care HOW good an attorney Mason is and how many cases I've lost before, I'm going to win THIS case and nail the criminal he's defending!")
shareI think Talman was brilliant in that part...too bad most of his movie work is not available...I'm sure he was great in other parts, too.
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One of Tallman's movies is available on YouTube: "The Hitch Hiker", along with Edmond O'Brien and Frank Lovejoy. Having seen him only as Burger, I was amazed at how good he was in this one - one mean SOB.
shareThe Ida Lupino film? Been meaning to watch that for a while now.
shareExcellent film.
sharecheck him out in "a cry in the night" sometime!!
shareI will, eventually. I have seen a quite a number of his movies, some even repeatedly. But A Cry in the Night…not yet. I think it's because I don't like Natalie Wood. I cannot explain it, but to me she is as appealing as a spoonful of castor oil. And I'm a baritone babe, just like Lizabeth Scott, if you know what I mean…
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i was talking about burr and his "creep factor," not about any other aspect of the film.
if you haven't seen "a cry in the night" yet, you should put aside any bias and see what he does in it. who cares about natalie wood, she's not the topic here.
burr's a classic creep, and he solidly puts the word "range" in "deranged." lol... he's classic indeed.
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I agree about Natalie Wood. I just don't see her appeal. Also, I think her acting was forced and over the top sometimes. 'Inside Daisy Clover' makes me cringe.
shareWhen I first saw him, I thought "Raymond Burr", but nope. Bad guy, very bad guy. Manipulating, threatening, abusive.
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Have you seen the noir film His Kind of Woman? In that one, Burr's character literally wants to steal Robert Mitchum's character's face via surgery, to change his appearance. It doesn't get much creepier than that.
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that's intense.
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He was just downright creepy in this film. So good at playing the villain in his early roles. Also great in Rear Window. And one can't forget the flame tossing scene in Raw Deal that anticipates the more famous scene in Big Heat by five years.
By the way, is Pitfall genuine film noir, or would it be more a quasi-noir melodrama?