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No Way Out (1987) vs. The Big Clock (1948)


As I watched "No Way Out," (1987) I was struck by the remarkable parallels between it and "The Big Clock" (1948). Sure enough, when I checked the IMdB I discovered that both movies have the same source--"The Big Clock," a novel by Kenneth Fearing. The Kenneth Fearing novel appears in the writing credits for both "The Big Clock" (1948) and "No Way Out" (1987).

Has anyone else noticed the similarities between these two movies? Care to discuss the similiarities and/or differences? For fans of "The Big Clock" (1948), I recommend "No Way Out" (1987).

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Like you, I noticed the similaries as well. I saw Costner's film first and then saw The Big Clock years later. I tend to like the Big Clock better b/c its just out and out a good film and I love film noir. I still like No Way Out, too. I like both films so much I have both of them in my collection.

Despite the similaries, the two films do have differences. One major difference is Milland's character is married while Costner isn't. The Big Clock is considered film noir while No Way Out isn't a noir (what a shame). Also, Clock was shot in the studio while Out isn't.

What's interesting about Clock is how the plot heavily involves Milland's wife while Out tends to focus more on the mistress (Sean Young), yet in Clock, the mistress seems to no longer matter in a sense. I wished that the screenwriters of No Way Out had brought in Hackman's wife. She just disappeared into the scencery. I wonder what kind of mix of drama there would have been.

Question...what did you think of Harry Morgan in the Big Clock? He played Laughton's heavy, the one Milland was running from. That's another major difference b/w the two films. Hackman's second hand man did his dirty work while Laughton's second hand man kept his hands clean. Morgan was the person for that.

One thing I do like about Out, it shows old films had great plots, which can be made in present day and work! Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one who enjoys great old films. I don't know if you old films but if you like Ray Milland, check him out in "Dial M for Murder". All I can say is...sweet...

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I thought The Big Clock was a much better movie. The increasing tension is punctured from time to time by the humerous antics of the supporting cast, who are legitimately funny and, because of all the tension, effective. The humor makes the grimmness of the hero's predicament more bearable. In "No Way Out" they just keep turning the tension up, because they've got no place else to go, there is no supporting cast to divert attention from the hero's plight, and the result feels oppressive.
As for the supporting cast, Out seemed to be a Costner/Hackman vehicle, and that seemed to crowd out the supporting cast and their storylines.

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Good point about the Costner/Hackman vehicle. I agree with you b/c what makes Out a good film is the supporting cast. The way Hackman's second hand man takes command of his scenes is suberb. I really think the screen writers of Out didn't understand that with The Big Clock, one of the things that makes this storyline work is the supporting cast and how they figure into the grand scheme of things.

One thing I'd like to see though...Costner and Hackman in another film like this one again. I wonder what's the likelihood of that...

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"The only thing I didn't care for was the ending. It was ludicrous."

Odd, because my favorite part of NWO was the ending. Turns out he was Yuri after all. Pretty cool twist, IMHO. Funny how opinions can differ so greatly....:)


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I think some people dislike the ending because they didn't see it coming and felt betrayed for rooting for someone they thought was their hero. But there are 3 instances that hint to that twist in the end.

I personally like the ending as well.



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I love all movies. From the silents the new modern classics. This movie was no exception. Great cast, great direction, great suspense.

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No Way Out was, I read, acually intended to be a remake of The Big Clock.

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The Big Clock is far better and actually has an ending that makes sense. Of course, it has no overt sex, but it really isn't needed as it adds nothing but titilation to the preceedings.

Nothing exists more beautifully than nothing.

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Not only "No way out" is an unconfessed remake. At least two more movies takes the same premise: "Gattaca" by Andrew Niccoll, and "Out of time", by Carl Franklin.

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I hate No Way Out. I really enjoy The Big Clock.

Kevin Costner looks like a rat and reads lines like he's at home on the john. Sean Young is bizarre - sort of attractive but very strange to watch and distracting in her roles.
There was not much suspense, and a lot of plot holes, and some really silly breaking glass and falling...

Meanwhile, one could also argue the same thing about plot holes in The Big Clock (how did the protagonist's friend get into the building at the end, when everyone's having docs checked and he 'sneaked', for example?). But, at the same time, there is enough humor (the artist, the masseur, the bartenders) in all of the quirky supporting cast members that the gaping plot holes are nicely plastered over with audience participation in what is clearly a 'spectacle' more than a 'suspenseful story'. It works far better as entertainment.

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There is also a french film from 1975 by Alain Corneau, called " Police Python 357", with Yves Montand, Simone Signoret, François Périer and Stefania Sandrelli, whose story ressembles very much The Big Clock's.

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Thanks I'll look for this.

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The only thing I didn't like about NWO was the overt sex and his tacky relationship with Young.



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With me it's a tie; both are great whodunit/noir films, although the 1987 Russian spy plot makes more sense in No Way Out, and the Pentagon such a fabulous location for shooting. But no character in NWO is as sinister or creepy as the goon played by Harry Morgan in the 1948 original. Plus, I actually had sympathy for the Gene Hackman character, whereas I had none for the Laughton character. Wasn't Republican Presidential candidate Fred Thompson great as the Head of the CIA in NWO? If he doesn't win the nomination, and the Republican nominee beats Hillary next November, perhaps he can be one in real life, not just in reel life.

Kevin Costner's best performance until he starred in JFK four years later, although the movie's standout performance was by Will Patten, who, as Roger Ebert pointed out, should have been Oscar nominated. Ten years later, Costner and Patten would star in the ill-fated Postman, which didn't have the good fortune of being as great as NWO. Superb performances by all including Sean Young and a surprisingly good Iman. One of the best films of the 1980s.

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Yeah, Will Patton was creepy and brilliant in that film. A real sleezeball. The only thing I didn't like was that they made him gay. More of that whole, "If a person is gay, not Christian, not white, they are inhearitly flawed." Misguided symbolism IMHO, but I did love Will Patton's performance.

"Religion is the opium of the people" - Karl Marx

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Religion is the OPIATE of the people" Karl Marx.

Aldous Huxley states that opium is the religion of the people.

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The religion of the people today is, so-called reality shows in which poverty ridden social ingrates populate mind numbing nonsense fit only for drugged freeloaders. Ahh, tis great to be alive!

Nothing is more beautiful than nothing.

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I just saw THE BIG CLOCK, and it is far superior to NO WAY OUT. Not that NO WAY OUT is bad, but it seems simultaneously more restrictive and more unfocused than TBC. Plus the humor of the original was sorely missed in the remake.

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Where did you get that he was gay? Am I missing something here?



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It was mentioned he was gay when someone brought up that Young may have been seeing his character. He was also in love with Hackman's character.

Also I disagree with the other poster stating that they only made him gay due to bigotry or persecution of gays, give me a break.



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I saw NWO in the theater when it was first released, and I remember reading at the time that it was a remake of "The Big Clock" (which I finally just saw, 22 years later). I confess I don't remember a lot about NWO at this point, but I really enjoyed CLOCK and thought it had a good mix of humor and suspense, as well as a good mastery of tension and release.

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I've seen No Way Out and like it. It was interesting and suspenseful. I did absolutely HATE the final twist at the end, however.

I am just now beginning to watch The Big Clock. Looking forward to seeing it, and we'll see how much I like it.

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NWO and that twist specifically influenced The Usual Suspects btw.



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I just watched The Big Clock for the first time on TCM and was thinking the reverse. Especially when the Crimeways building went into lockdown. Before then I was like "yknow someone should remake this, it's great!" then I saw that scene and I realized someone had "omg No Way Out!".

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I like them both very much. Kevin Costner and Ray Milland both at the peak of their powers made for great entertainment.

I do like the way they worked humor into the older films, I think it made a more complete film. Todays films are too grim.

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Considering No Way Out´s a remake AND has a Kevin Costner in the lead, it coulda been a whole lot worse. As it stands, it´s a fairly OK, if unremarkable little thriller - albeit one with an awful finale. The Big Clock, on the other hand, looks very much like one of the very best of its kind; the somewhat comically overwrought opening voiceover blaring from Milland´s noggin aside, there´s really nothing wrong with it at all. A lean, compact, exquisitely constructed & outstandingly filmed exercise in gripping suspense with superb performances by Milland, Laughton, Macready & pretty much the entire cast. And it´s funny, too. Even Hitchcock wouldn´t have gotten it down better than that. It´d be about 9/10 for Clock vs some 6,5-7/10 for NWO.



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