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One of Price's nastiest portrayals


He was about the best nasty guy around when this was made.


I killed him for money and for a woman. I didn't get the money... and I didn't get the woman.

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What about Edward G. Robinson? He was pretty darn nasty in Key Largo...

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Well, yeah, there are different levels of nastiness. It seems to me that Price was almost always nasty, while Robinson was superbly nasty in many roles, but quite sympathetic in others.

For the one absolute nastiest single performance in classic film though, I would say it has to be Richard Widmark in Kiss Of Death.


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How about Bob Mitchum? He did a couple of real uglies - Cape Fear, Out of the Past, etc.

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Yeah, Mitcchum sure could be nasty..don't forget Night Of The Hunter for another supremely nasy role.

I still say Widmark's was the ultimate nasty one in KISS OF DEATH. If I had the choice between Widmark's character and Mitchum's character, I would reluctantly take my chances with Mitchum.


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Boris Karloff can be nasty too.

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Sure thing, pal, Boris was at his nastiest in two of the three Val Lewton movies he made...BEDLAM and THE BODY SNATCHER.


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Mitchum ugly in Out of the Past? He seemed like just a cynical private eye type to me. Vincent Price is awesome. I think the Bat is my favourite with him, his first scene is incredible.

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Sure thing, Mitchum's OUT OF THE PAST role wasn't a true nasty, but his CAPE FEAR and NIGHT OF THE HUNTER roles sure enough were.


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Oh my yes! He was incredibly nasty in Lewton's "The Body Snatcher". :D Unfortunately I haven't seen "Bedlam". :(

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Interesting. I thought Vincent Prices roll in this movie as Dr Richard Cross was not more or less nastier than Charles Boyer as Gregory Anton in Gaslight (1944), although, I admit that Boyer’s beast was more volatile than Price’s Cross.

Of all the nasty evil doers in Vincent Prices career, the one that always sends chills down my spine will always be Dr Phibes. Hands down! He was the most nefarious of them all.


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I'm embarrassed to say that I've never seen Dr. Phibes. I'm going to get on that. :$

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Oh wait, yes I have. But it was so long ago that I don't remember. :P

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I hope you've refreshed your memory about "The Abominable Dr. Phibes" in the past year, because it's priceless Price, in my book.

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I wonder if this film was inspired by "Gaslight"? The two seem to have quite a bit in common.

I agree that Dr. Phibes was more conventionally nasty than this role, but the fact that Price played a "credible" doctor here made this role disturbing on another level. I'd write more, but it's time for my injection.

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Richard Widmark in Roadhouse, The Kiss of Death and No Way Out had 3 of the nastiest characters I have seen in movies. The others are Robert Mitchum in Cape Fear and the Night of the Hunter and Anton Walbrook in the original Gaslight. He made Charles Boyer's portrayal look like something from a Lifetime movie. And we cannot forget Charles Laughton in Mutiny on The Bounty and Vincent Price in Dragonwyck, where he kills his wife with a plant to marry the nanny and was a dope fiend and nasty Patroon to top it off. And Leave Her to Heaven, where if prosecuted a person out of revenge. And last but not least Lee Marvin in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence and The Big Heat.

In this movie Shock, Price was a killer but he was not without a conscience. IMO it was his girlfriend who was running the ship. Yes he did not have to listen but there was conflict about what he was doing. In neither of his killings did he set out to kill. Speaking of women I think Lynn Bari's nurse was one nasty character too. And going back to the Big Heat Jeanette Nolan was not your typical police widow. I think we need to mention some nasty portrayals by women since IMO one of the best are in this movie.

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That's a deliciously nasty cast of character (actors) there, marbleann! I might also add Burt Lancaster in "Elmer Gantry" and Andy Griffith in "A Face in the Crowd" -- not because of their nastiness but because they fooled so many people into eating out of their hands.

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Thanks. But how can I forget the two you mentioned. That was Griffith's best performance Lonesome Rhodes, and he was nasty, nasty. His contempt for his fans got the best of him. And Lancaster deserved that Oscar. Only he could of gotten away with playing a likable hustler. I think because his character had a sense of humor. Two other Lancaster roles have to be mentioned where he played evil as cold as as I ever saw on the screen, The Sweet Smell of Success and Seven Days in May. I forget what a versatile actor Lancaster was. He has always been one of my favorites. Today actors think they have to scream and yell and over emote to act. Lancaster was one of those actors who knew being very quiet can be very effective.

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I totally love the Burt-man. He was an actor who didn't need dialogue to convey words and emotions, a man who could play the villain and the hero equally convincingly, an actor who remained relevant into his final years.

I recently watched his first film, "The Killers," and he had the confidence right out of the gate. He was 52 when he made my favorite film of his, "The Swimmer," yet he had the body of two 26-year-olds. There's no one line him today, and there never will be again.

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I haven't seen the swimmer in years. I think he was a acrobat when he was young and he always stayed in shape. I saw the Killers and yes I agree he acted like a veteran. He was one of a kind. The actors today don't even have interesting faces. They all look the same and are interchangeable for the most part. Where are the great faces like Mitchum, Douglas, Peck, Gable and Lancaster?

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Unfortunately, the Lancasters and the Mitchums and all the others are found only in the old films. Movies today are considered largely a youth market, and you're only as good as your opening weekend box-office. There's no interesting in really developing careers, just going for the quick fix with the action superhero. Hollywood is feeling increasingly generic and plastic, with no one to identify with or admire. I know that makes me sounds like a codger, but I don't care.

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And I agree. Everybody is just about making money. They are marque names not stars who can act. I truly believe the people who are running Hollywood today hate movies and have no real appreciation for them other then the money they can make. And they have contempt for the usual people who watch movies.

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WARNING! SPOILERS DOWN BELOW!

The nastiest performance that I can think of off the top of my head is Warren Beatty's as Berry-Berry in "All Fall Down". The guy goes around hustling middle-aged women, spends their cash on booze and hussies, and beats them up if they talk back. Beatty potrays him with a devil-may-care attitude and an almost constant smirk of self-satisfaction which makes him very darn nasty in my book. Towards the end Berry-Berry even drives Eva Marie Saint's character to suicie because, get this, he was appaled and disgusted that she was a virgin at her age and that he was her first.

Going back to Robert Mitchum, he was pretty nasty in "Secret Ceremony", a relatively obscure Josph Losey thriller starring Elizabeth Taylor as an aging hooker. Mitch's character is an alcoholic who is frisky for his young stepdaughter played by Mia Farrow. What makes one scene particularly nasty is how he insists to her on calling him "dad" while fondling her. Mitchum could express lechery and perversion better than any actor I can think of. He could do it masterfully just with a look or a note in his voice. As mentioned earlier, "Cape Fear" is an good example, but Mitch gets quite histrionic in some scenes, whereas in "Secret Ceremony" his performance is more restrained and less histrionic which makes it nastier in my book.

But going back to the original topic, I was surprised at how underwhelming I found Vincent Price's portrayal of the doctor in "Shock" to be. He shows his vast potential for hammy acting that Roger Corman and other schlock directors would eventually tap in his first scene, but goes for a straight performance the rest of the way and does so quite dully. The crucial scene in which the doctor is struggling eith his conscience aa he is being flooded with flashback narration was a major opportunity for some expressive facial acting, but Vincent's grimace remains statuesque throughout. This surprised me bacause the look of anguish on his face was the most terrifying thing for me in "The Last Man on Earth", a horror movie. But that is nearly 20 years and a lot of expressive wrinkles on his face later. So, what I meant to say with that gratuitous tirade is that I think Vincent Price isn't nearly as nasty in "Shock" as one would expect.

Now that I've typed all that out, I see that the last post on this topic is well over two years old and feel kind of silly for writing so much on a dead message board.

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I think Vincent Price was at his nastiest in 'Theater of Blood.' His murders in that film are to wreak revenge and are planned. He takes sheer delight in murdering his victims in a cold theatrical fashion.

In 'Shock' he murders his wife on the spur of the moment under threat of her blackmail. Fulfilling her role as a noir femme fatale, Nurse Jordan is the driving force behind his nastiness. She is tempting him all the way.

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always loved Vincent Price,, and he sure did not disappoint in this one,, classic film in my opinion.
are you going to bark all day little doggie,, or are you going to bite

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I agree with the poster who said that Price was a killer but he was not without a conscience. He did have second thoughts about what he was doing and it tore him apart. I've seen many worse villains in movies, a lot of good ones stated above.

However, Nurse Jordan was quite a different matter. She was truly chilling. Cold-blooded, unscrupulous and entirely without conscience. She would have happily gone on killing.

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Don't think he was quite grown into true nastiness yet as he kills his wife in the heat of an argument and later fails to go through with murdering the witness (although he does compensate with an emotion driven strangulation). Not 'that' nasty at all.



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Yes he wasn't completely bad, which makes the story more interesting, to me.


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I could feel his conflict, though, especially at the end.

I liked Price a lot in his swordplay movies. I'd have to look up the names, but he was quite nasty and detestable in them. Also, he was a capable fencer, as shown in his sword battles. It made him a formidable villain.

I always loved his voice, too. It's hilarious that in "Futurama," one of the evil "Mom's" two incompetent boys is an imitation of Price's voice.

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With respect I think you are referring to Basil Rathbone. Not Vincent Price. Rathbone was the expert fencer. He has a similar type of menace to that of Vincent Price. Rathbone was probably nastier as a villain whereas Price was tormented a lot of the time in his villainous roles.

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You could be correct.

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his love interest was much worse.

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