I would like to hear your guys opinion on this? Does the general public really believe that hunters are evil and horrible animal killers? This isnt an attack on anybody, im just looking for opinions on this topic.
FYI, i have been a hunter for 7 years now.
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Not me for sure, as long as they keep balance.
I mean, animals kill each other, why can't humans also enter?
Too bad the portrayal of human vs environment theme in almost every animated movie / series is like "animals = good, humans/hunters = evil".
Probably the only really good takes on this topic are Pom Poko and Princess Mononoke.
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Look at i this way...
You might view it as killing for sport, but, would you rather have hunters be proud of their kills and accomplishments or just kill everything for food and leave the rest of the bodies behind? This isnt a very good example, but its an example nonetheless.
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Are you a vegetarian?
If you eat meat their is no difference between me killing them and the butcher company. Except for the fact that the animal i killed lived a free life and had a fighting chance.
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I dont' think the hunters in Bambi were real hunters anyway. They were probably just drunken frat boys wanting to shoot something. Think about it. They leave a fire unattended. They shoot at squirrels and mice. What avid hunter just randomly fires at anything that moves?
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shareIm a vegetarian and although im not really for either one, Id much rather someone shoot some random deer out in the forest and kill it quickly than to buy meat from a store that came from animals raised in non sanitary conditions. Its safer, less cruel, and all that good stuff. I don't really see hunters as evil, I wouldn't do it, but whatever
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Do the public really view hunters as evil? Yes.
I don't think hunters are evil if they are killing because they need food or something, but if it is for sport, then yes, I do consider that to be a terrible thing. Animals have the right to be here as much as humans and they shouldn't be killed just because someone feels that it is 'fun'.
shareYou realize that the meat in the store was once an animal too right? I'm not a hunter, nor would I want to. But at least when you hunt the animals you eat, it was able to live a happy, normal life living in the woods. It wasn't born and kept in a small cage being given high calorie food its whole life and standing in its own filth. I really think an animal would prefer a few years of a free forest life and a bullet to the chest than a year or so in a too-small cage before they're fatally knocked in the head.
shareI know this is an old thread but I just have to say, animals don't live a happy normal life in the wild. Yes they would rather be in the wild than in captivity. But it's a bit naive to think that the wild isn't a harsh place. There is starvation, fleeing from predators (not the Arnie kind), dying of thirst, the cold etc. The wild isn't a happy joyful place necessarily.
shareIm glad the conversation on this thread has stayed mature (for the most part).
Petals is right. There is nothing "cute" or "happy" about nature. The latest "big" documentaries (Plentet Earth, ect) have done a great job showing nature in its truest forms.
The image of "big bad scary hunters" walking through the woods and killing everything in sight for pure enjoyment is just not practical anymore. The government has done a good job (in most opinions) at regulating and funding conservationism.
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"I mean, animals kill each other, why can't humans also enter?"
That's a good question. The answer is, we want as few animals as possible to be killed.
Because animals killing animals is nature's way, humans killing animals for anything more than what they need to eat is not nature's way. Humans also go too far, killing more animals than what is necessary, for sport, and pushing the animals into extinction.
shareThat logic is a bit bizarre. Animals don't kill each other with firearms.
shareWhat about a mixture of both? My family took 4 deer this year, 3 last year, 2 the year before that and 1 the year before that. Not to mention 4 turkeys over the last 4 years. We butchered all the animals ourselves and no meat went to waist.
BUT,
We skull mounted 2 of the bucks, and did fan mounts of 2 of the turkeys.
Does that make us evil? Because we are proud of our harvest.
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I believe there will be a time when food is scarce and stores are shut down. Hunting would be the only way to survive. (Unless your sure you don't need any meat in your diet.)
Also, store bought meat is from an animal that had to be killed. Arguing about it would be a lost cause.
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Evil? No. Selfish and cruel? Yes. This is refering to sport hunters, not food hunters. I see absolutely no way that this could be fun, or something to be proud of.
However, all these people saying its better to buy meat from the store-no. Hunting in this case is more humane than factory farming (most store-bought meat).
So to sum up- hunting for sport: bad
hunting for food: acceptable
Fyi, I'm a vegetarian (in case you couldn't tell :-p )
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I think that hunters have a duty to hunt responsibly and with purpose. Hunters should use the meat, pelt, etc and should not over-hunt or hunt out of season. I really don't like people who hunt purely for sport, keep the head for a trophy and let the body just go to waste. So long as hunters are responsible I don't see a problem.
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I don't think the film has a moral message. The movie is shown from the point of view of animals, how they probably see hunters and how animals have to struggle to stay alive.
shareI recently came across an article that had a member of the Disney team actually admitting that the world of Bambi was deliberately made to look like a predator-free environment, where Man's the soul cause of death, hence Frind Owl is on peaceful terms w/ animals he could be praying on. This was done to make Man easier to single out as a threat. Personally, I don't see Frind Owl's friendliness at the birth scene as anything that precluded predation. It appears plausible the owl may have suspended his usual aggression for the sake of the occasion during the birth, notwithstanding use of his predatory threat to shew the visitors off when it was time to leave.
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I don't view hunters as "evil". My family members hunt. But I'm very against hunting. Why should deer die like that? Or rabbits? Or any animal for that matter? I'm a vegetarian so I can live without meat. If one person can....we all could. But to each his own. I don't frown upon people who eat meat or make the choice to hunt. I just don't find it necessary to kill a poor innocent animal that has babies to care for just like we do or a herd to protect. They usual stay hidden in forests anyway and cause no harm or threat to anyone, so just let them be and live their lives just like you would want to.
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There's two kinds of hunters: Those who hunt for food, and those who hunt for the sake of killing, collecting tropheys and the joy of feeling themselves the 'superior' being.
The latter kind are twisted and sick, yes.
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I think kids are smart enough to know the difference between real hunters and fake movie ones that only exist to add effect. It's really the adults that can't fathom why someone would hunt, much less own a gun that are incredibly naive and ignorant.
And a lot gets said against sport hunting, but I suppose the carcass gets used by nature as fertilizer and insects and scavengers get to have their dinner of the animal anyway. It's really just the natural order.
To hbklover95....
"Nationwide, deer-automobile collisions kill 200 people and cost more than $1 billion each year."
http://www.aces.edu/dept/extcomm/newspaper/feb15a02.html
Not saying that means we should go out and kill them all as we're really the ones infringing on their territory, but they don't "usual(ly) stay hidden in forests anyway and cause no harm or threat to anyone". I hunt deer mostly for the meat, if I see a big buck then I will take him for the meat and a trophy, but mostly for the meat. As far as those people saying "you can just buy meat at the store" you obviously don't realize that game meat is cheaper and better for you. It's also more humane and gives the animal a chance to get away. I would much rather eat wild game than anything you buy at a grocery store, so obviously I don't view hunters as evil. I also can't stand trophy hunters, although I think there is less than 1% of hunters who won't use the meat of an animal they kill even if their primary purpose was for a trophy.
I was reading an interesting tidbit in the trivia section. I am originally from Maine and the theatre that we grew up going to was a very small local theatre in Damariscotta. One of the animators of this film lived in Damariscotta and was the one who brought Walt the Bambi book to see if he'd be interested in making it into a film. Apparently to thank this animator, Walt was going to hold the world premier of the movie in Damariscotta at our tiny theatre. However, the entire state of Maine voted against it, as they felt hunters would be offended. I thought that was kind of goofy. I mean..they KNOW they shoot and kill Deer and eat them and they KNOW some don't care for that, so i'm not sure how this movie would offend them. Whatevuh I guess.
shareWhen I saw this, I only viewed those particular hunters as evil, not all hunters as a whole. I mean come on, who shoots a mother deer with a fawn?
Plus from an animal perspective, all hunters would be evil.
Hunting for food is fine, but I don't like it when people just hunt for sport.
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