I found the 1934 version pretty offensive in how they portrayed Dahlila. she doesn't want her own house? she only wants to serve Bea? She's her "partner" and gets 20%? even so she should be a millioniare and yet still takes comfort in rubbing her feet? lol, come on. they portray her with basically no self dignity and how she just accepts her daughter's rejection is pretty sad too. i suppose back in 1934 this was considered progressive, but at the same time it is pretty clear about Dahlila's role and yet nobody really wants to adress this issue when talking about this movie.
An avid fan of the remake with Lana Turner (the one most often shown), I watched the original just to make the comparison as well as view the wonderful Claudette Colbert. Perhaps of years of political correctness and programming, I couldn't watch this film objectively in short,I truly hated the original . While I'm aware that this was made in 1934, Delilah's character was portrayed with such a lack of dignity that all I could do is cringe each time watching this poor actress forced to interpret her character in such a "Yes Massa, Mammy" fashion. A complete simpleton. The relationship with the mothers was aloof (at least Bea's side of it), there seemed to be an indifference Bea displayed towards Delilah, sort of as "Oh my , you too having problems? So sad." Even at the death bed scene, Bea's attitude was " Oh my, she really is dying, how sad." The only thing I felt for both Bea and Delilah was utter contempt. The only reason to watch this film is for Fredi Washington's portrayal of Peola, which is truly heart breaking. In the remake you hated this character. In the original, you really did sympathize with her. A young black woman forced to live in shame with nowhere to run.
Delilah's character was portrayed with such a lack of dignity that all I could do is cringe each time watching this poor actress forced to interpret her character in such a "Yes Massa, Mammy" fashion. A complete simpleton.
OH MY GOD!! Yes! That is why I could not make it through the film after 30 minutes. Her character really got on my nerves. It was too sickening to watch.
Both versions of this movie ticked me off. Not only Aunt Delilah (Aunt Jemima) but also the other offensive roles, like the Italian who can't pull a pen out of his pocket. Glad I live in the 21st Century.
It's bad enough most people today have little or no interest in or sense of history. It's even worse that so many can't be bothered paying attention to a rather good film made 75 years ago (based on an even older novel written by one of the most famous and widely-read authors of the time, Fannie Hurst, whose books were the basis for many films) to gain a better understanding of the period. Relatively speaking, this was a fairly progressive portrait of race relations for its time. Why is it so difficult for so many people to suspend their contemporary point of view and take such a movie or book as an instructive slice of history? In doing so, one is not accepting or condoning the behavior portrayed, merely recognizing it and learning from it.
The reality is that racism and sexism were far more widespread and entrenched then than now. Of course, there's a lot more to be accomplished to obliterate the substantial vestiges of those pernicious forces in society, but it would help the perspective to have a clearer picture of how things really were 50, 75, 100 years ago. I was considered an enlightened integrationist from the Northeast when I first visited the South about 45 years ago. Despite my having been a serious student of history and an avid movie-goer, I was shocked to see actual "colored only" signs above water fountains. And I was dumbfounded to be told that I, as a white man, shouldn't drink from such a fountain; it wasn't quite as bad as a black person drinking from a "white only" fountain, but it "just wasn't done" -- unless, of course, there was no "whites" fountain handy.
Remember the old adage -- those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
I agree with you completely jjelgar. I first saw this movie in a film class in college in the 1980s. We viewed it as a historical story of what race relations were at the time. Is it disturbing? Yes! Is it appalling? Yes! But offensive? I'm glad to hear that African-Americans at the time of the movie's release were offended as they should have been. But I don't think we should be offended now. We should be encouraged that the current response is that of outrage and not acceptance. Let's not censor the movie because it shows us a dark time in our society's attitudes. Let's take it as a history lesson of where we have come from.
Another thing that we discussed in the class was the lesson of place. Delilah tries to get Peola to know her place. Not only does she want her to accept who she is and what she is, she wants her to accept where she is. Delilah is perfectly happy as the subservient underling to Bea, and she thinks that it is very important for Peola to accept her place as well. Delilah obviously believes that blacks are inferior to whites, and she thinks Peola should stop fighting it, and accept it too.
If you found this movie offensive, then it has done it's job. Many people are not able to understand the point of this movie. There are many subtle hints in the movie that point to it's purpose, which was to show the true nature of the American apartheid. The most obvious clue was Delilah's stereotypical portrayal of a black mammie. There are also some clues that are easy to miss if you're not paying careful attention. The earliest one in the movie is when Jessie calls Peola "black" and Delilah says "It's not your fault and it's not mine. It can't be our laws, so I don't know what it is." This is obviously a jab at the "separate but equal doctrine." Another clue was when there is a big party, and Peola and Delilah cannot attend it. Right after the party, Delilah and Bea part ways at the stairs, with Bea going up and Delilah going down into the basement, and that is an important use of imagery to show that even though they are "friends", they could never be equals because of the limits society imposes on that friendship. There is also a moment at the very end of the movie, when Peola cries at her mother's funeral. She is comforted by Bea and Jessie, but when they enter the car, Peola has to sit in the front seat of the limo, while the whites sit in the comfort cabin. Oh, and one more:
Delilah: "Teacher, is she passing?" Teacher: "Um... oh yes, she is passing."
It is quite unfortunate that many people do not understand that this movie could never have seen daylight if it had denounced racism openly. It is unfortunate that people denounce this film the same way that Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is denounced for making them "feel uncomfortable." Even though we call ourselves open minded these days, we are still ignorant when it comes to dealing with race issues, to the point that anything that portrays racism other than in black and white (no pun intended :P), right and wrong, we call it offensive and declare that it should be censored.
Delilah: "Teacher, is she passing?" Teacher: "Um... oh yes, she is passing."
The teacher is obviously not familiar with the term and is confused, perhaps thinking that the mother is asking about academic performance.
And, yes. Public schools in New York were not segregated. The girl would not be expelled because she's "passing".
The only part of the movie that made me cringe was in the first act when Bea's daughter Jessie (innocently) pointed out that Peola was black and Bea said something to the effect that it was mean to point out that she wasn't white, like it was an insult.
As far as I know, "black" was not a polite word to use back then, "colored" or "negro" was the preferred nomenclature.
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If you have the special two-DVD set (the 1934 and 1959) movies, in the '34 movie there's commentary on racial issues in that era and how Hollywood wanted to portray black actors and actresses as safe black people who did not threaten white audiences and the tragedy of being mixed which only re-enforced that dating outside your race was wrong because the kids suffer, remember interracial marriage is only legal for 41 years - it's a MUST see & hear.
Also, this movie just got under the wire with the production code - The production stated no interracial dating, thus Peola Johnson (Fredi Washington) was a product of an interracial relationship the production code won on this one saying that her father was a light-skinned black instead of a white man, also the studio didn't think anything was demeaning about the foot rubbing scene, they were concerned that it implied a lesbian relationship between Beavers and Colbert (in the movie not IRL) but the foot rubbing scene was kept in to re-enforce the idea that black people were subordinate to white people.
Now my beef with the remake is that the studio claimed they could not find a black actress light enough to play the renamed Sarah Jane - IMO they didn't really look. Also fans and critics of the remake always complain that Sarah Jane was played by a white actress, untrue. Susan Kohner is hispanic and white, I don't know how she ID's but just because she is not black doesn't mean the fans nor critics have a right to define her - they didn't define Fredi Washington, why define Kohner. I'm not saying anything bad about Washington I'm a big fan of hers and read many of her articles from the people's voice but it's kind of a double standard.
Speaking from a white woman's vantage point, I must admit certain portrayals pushed some buttons: as another poster mentions, the white woman walks up the stairs to her room while the black woman walks down to hers...to name but one. However, the information provided by IMDB that Fredi Washington (Peola) was herself an African American and an avid civil rights activist, sheds considerable light on the subject and reminds us to think in terms of that particular period in time.