Most evil man ever?
Even more so than guys like Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden and Trump? What do you think?
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Yes. And a stupid hat to boot
shareI think when you get past a certain point you don't rank evil.
sharenaw he was a man of his times. a great man!
shareHe was arrested, brought back to Spain in chains and stripped of his titles. Even the Spanish king knew he was scum.
sharewho cares? what great man hasn't been arrest and place in handcuffs at some point in their lives?!? i know i have, ur probably some nerd who has never left ur comfort zone much. you know nothing of adventure or greatness, u probably just some city rat living in new york in some little box thinking ur edmucation makes u better then everyone else
shareColumbus must have been evil incarnate if the POS king who started the Spanish Inquisition had a problem with him.
shareEl Almirante had many enemies in the Spanish Court. La Hispaniola was the first European colony in America ( if you forget the expedition of Lars Erickson), it was a disaster but it was the beginning.
It is impossible to deny that the conquest of America was extremely negative for the natives and that Colon was very greedy but to say that he was "the most evil man ever ".......
Why would I forget the Vikings? For a false narrative?
Columbus shouldn't be honored when he's in the same category as Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.
I mean Colon and Spain brought to Europe the news about the "New World ".
The vikings were there before (from the European point of view), but nobody knew it. That is neither good nor bad but it is a fact.
To put him (again, the "discovery " was a disaster for the natives, no doubt) in the same league as the from you above mentioned names is, in my opinion, out of place.
Columbus must have been evil incarnate if the POS king who started the Spanish Inquisition had a problem with him.
Didn't the Inquisition wrongfully imprison, torture, and execute innocent people? I don't think you're making the point you think you are.
"Columbus must have been evil incarnate if the Hitler who started the Holocaust had a problem with him."
You see how silly that sounds? share
What's silly is comparing atrocities. Hitler, Ferdinand and Columbus were all evil.
shareI'm glad it's you that made the comment. I can laugh it off
shareHe was a great man.
shareWatch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEw8c6TmzGg
and this one which is a follow up to some criticism of the first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEHMzhtwgMI
Summary: Columbus is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be and that a lot of the things that he gets blamed for were done by others. While he should not be glorified as he was before he is far from "the most evil man ever"
OP includes Trump in a list with Hitler, Stalin, and Bin Laden. If he was capable of reasoning, like a normally intelligent human being, he would be able to see how absurd that is.
shareLeaves out Mao Zedong and Pol Pot. Includes Donald Trump. LOL
shareTrump killed 100s of thousands of Americans. He turned the country into a dystopia.
sharepropaganda works
shareNobody needed to wear N95 masks when Obama was president.
shareso trump released the virus? thats a new conspiracy
shareTrump did nothing for a month as both the national and health advisors warned him to act immediately to avoid its exponential spread. Trump also defunded health agencies and didn't follow the pandemic response instructions left by Bush 2 and Obama.
It's common knowledge. The U.S. had the worst response among Western nations. Multiple studies already found hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily.
Don't stay in a bubble. Reuters, the AP news and other neutral news sources will keep you informed.
Some good news sources:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/center/
Trump didn't defund health agencies, he consolidated them to reduce redundancy, waste, and a lot of people who were doing the same thing and didn't know what others were doing.
LOL! He removed the American doctor working in China whose only job was to warn us about any pandemic/epidemic threat. Way to go!
Stop defending Trump's incompetence and stupidity.
Of course, my mistake. Everyone knows the CCP would have immediately notified this American doctor of an escaped virus even as their own doctors were disappearing or mysteriously dying when trying to warn their own government of the lab leak.
Sorry.
No need since the American doctor was working in the Chinese lab. Way to go!
Stop defending Trump's incompetence and stupidity.
If you think any American could have gotten that info past the firewall the CCP puts up around China you're naive. The doctor would have had an unfortunate car accident if he/she actually learned of the leak.
Further, even with 100 percent disclosure in the opening weeks of the pandemic, the leak wouldn't have been discovered until hundreds or thousands of people started getting hospitalized. At that point, many tens of thousands would have already been affected by the virus and passed the virus around the world in every country big and small.
But it's too bad Joe Biden wasn't president. He said not one American would have died and presumably none would have if he had president.
"If the president had done his job — had done his job from the beginning — all the people would still be alive. All the people. I'm not making this up. Just look at the data," Biden said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/17/joe-bidens-cnn-town-hall-an-occasional-whopper
Imagine how wonderful if the U.S. was the only nation not to be affected by this scourge. They'd add him to Mt. Rushmore.
The American doctor would've used the phone. She worked with the Chinese in the same lab and privy to the same info.
China and the U.S. had a long arrangement until Dummy Trump removed her for no reason.
"Quick was in an ideal position to be the eyes and ears on the ground for the United States and other countries on the coronavirus outbreak, and might have alerted them to the growing threat weeks earlier.
No other foreign disease experts were embedded to lead the program after Quick left in July, according to the sources. Zhu said an embedded expert can often get word of outbreaks early, after forming close relationships with Chinese counterparts.
Zhu and the other sources said Quick could have provided real-time information to U.S. and other officials around the world during the first weeks of the outbreak."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc-expert-job-in-china-months-before-virus-outbreak-idUSKBN21910S
and might have alerted..
Exactly.
And why is the U.S.'s job alone to do this? No other country could fund China's Lab or "monitor" them?
Further, none of this even suggests that even with another few weeks of lead time anything would have changed, much in the way that Biden was apparently unable to stop the spread of the Omni variant. Did Biden also drop the ball or is a pandemic something that will run its course no matter what humans do?
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U.S. is world power.
System worked well for 30 years before Trump ruined it.
Stop defending Trump's incompetence.
Trumpite cultists are in hospitals and dying.
System worked well for 30 years before Trump ruined it.
Name the worldwide pandemics the U.S. stopped in the past 30 years and how they accomplished this with no vaccines, no masks, no lockdowns, no border closings, no mandates. In other words, what was the hidden magic plan and why isn't Biden following it now?
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Reuters, the AP news and other neutral news sources will keep you informed.
And now it's clear that you are trolling. share
It sounds like you don't know that AP News and Reuters are news services which sell news to newspapers, TV news, websites and radio before a "viewpoint" is added.
shareYeah, and the Reuters CEO is also related to Pfizer. What makes him just a little biased...
And all sponsored by the shitty Gates foundation. Thanks for so much "neutrality"...
You're not rational. Vaccines are a good thing that saves lives. Obviously, you had your round before attending school. Or do you prefer polio or diphtheria?
sharePolio vaccine WORKS, the Pfizer shit does not. You understand that little difference, genius?
shareThe Covid vaccine WORKS as well as the flu vaccines.
You understand that little difference, genius?
Flu vaccines ALWAYS had an effectiveness of 50 percent only. In contrast 2 doses of Polio vaccine have an effectiveness of 90 percent, 3 even 99 to 100 percent. Proven for decades.
Your argumentation is dumb as usual.
The Covid vaccine WORKS as well as the flu vaccines.The hospitals are filled with anti-vaxxers.
You understand that little difference, genius?
You are a liar and a propagandist. The flu shots never had any effect on the death rate. They don't work either. Same for COVID, no effect on the death rate. Why? Because it's not a vaccine.
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Trump killed 100s of thousands of Americans. He turned the country into a dystopia.
Have people died in other countries from covid as well? Last I checked, Trump was only president of the US.
If the deaths in the US are his fault, then how exactly did all of those people die in those other countries too? share
Nope. Trump was world leader. With power comes great responsibility!
Part of our national security is to protect the world - therefore us - from pandemics the way former presidents protected us from Ebola, SARS 1 and the Swine Flu.
Ah, you got me there. No arguing with that.
sharePart of our national security is to protect the world - therefore us - from pandemics the way former presidents protected us from Ebola, SARS 1 and the Swine Flu.
Exactly! Plus, the sitting presidents during those pandemics not only saved American lives, but also stopped those pandemics from raving the whole world at the same time! AND! They did all this without vaccines, masks, mandates, or shutting down things like concerts and sporting events. Trump didn't do that!
Of course, some may say that Ebola, Sars, and Swine weren't nearly as virulent as Covid-19, but those are only those nutsy Orange Man apologists.
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