Gonna be hot
Just saying.
shareGonna be? She already is hot! Check out her Instagram!
shareWhat age does a girl go from 'cute'/'adorable' to hot?
13? 14? 15? 16?
How young does a girl have to be for it to be inappropriate to call her 'hot'?
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She's 16. Why are you even thinking about this?
shareAre you really going to pretend that there is this magic switch when a girl turns 18 and before that is flicked, of course no one looks at her and thinks "damn..." ?
And are you really going to pretend that men are not attracted, physically, to a young, perfectly grown female body - because in some countries she is not "legal" yet? Because that is not how biology works and I find it hilarious to pretend that all the dads don't think lewd thoughts when they watch the 16 year old cheerleaders in their absurdly short skirts and tight tops spreading their legs at high school football games. They sure just like how nice they jump around, right?
Out of curiosity, are you a man or a woman?
Are you really going to pretend that there is this magic switch when a girl turns 18 and before that is flicked, of course no one looks at her and thinks "damn..." ?
No. That's why you should wait until she's at least 20. But where are you going to draw the line? What if she was 14. DO you think the magic switch is going to turn on when she's 16.
And are you really going to pretend that men are not attracted, physically, to a young, perfectly grown female body - because in some countries she is not "legal" yet?
Am I going to pretend that men aren't pervs? Definitely not. A a man in his late 30s, I'm not attracted to 18-year-olds. share
"Am I going to pretend that men aren't pervs? Definitely not. A a man in his late 30s, I'm not attracted to 18-year-olds."
I'm a man in my early 30s.
I wouldn't consider dating and living with an 18 year old either.
But it would be unnormal to not be physically attracted to one, as a heterosexual male.
You are strange, possibly suffering from a form of paraphilia, or in denial.
But it would be unnormal to not be physically attracted to one, as a heterosexual male.
YUP...YOU NAILED IT...NORMAL HETEROSEXUAL MALES ARE ATTRACTED TO EVERY UNDERAGE GIRL...TOP TO BOTTOM...ANYONE WHO ISN'T HORNY FOR EVERY SINGLE TEENAGE GIRL IS UNNORMAL.
You sound like one of the people who want to stop using the term "pedophiles" and start using "minor attracted person" because they can't control who they are attracted to. As a man in my 30s, I have never looked at a 16 year old and thought "she's going to be hot in a few years".
shareThis isn't Twitter or Instagram.
You can't win arguments here by calling someone a racist, a pedophile, a transphobe or mysogynist.
Sexual attraction to girls in their late teens is not a paraphilia, nor illegal in my country.
You're arguing against not only laws but also science.
You might as well be a flat earther too.
I'm not saying you're a pedo. I'm saying you sound like one of the people who want to change the terminology of it. It's already being done:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11586335/Police-Scotland-slammed-calling-paedophiles-minor-attracted-people.html
If I sounded like those people then I wouldn't have hinted that you might be a pedo in one of my other replies to you.
I clearly have no problem with the terminology or the laws or classifications, which you would've realized if you weren't a flat Earth type of moron.
Pedophiles are attracted to prepubertal kids.
It's a paraphilia and should not be legalized nor normalized.
Sexual attraction to 16 year olds isn't pedophilia, paraphilia or illegal.
which you would've realized if you weren't a flat Earth type of moron.
WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING THAT?...IT SOUNDS STUPID.
Why would you hint that I'm a pedo when I stated that I don't find anyone under the age of 20 to be attractive? Weird how you've specified "sexual attraction" now.
shareI didn't assert that you're a pedo.
I just didn't rule that out, because clearly there's something strange about you.
This is what I wrote:
"So tell me, are you gay, a girl, in denial or a pedophile who is only into kids that haven't reached puberty?"
I'm leaning towards "in denial".
It seems you're suppressing your sexuality due to fears of being labeled a pedophile. Relax. This is an anonymous board.
You're not getting cancelled or burning bridges with women your age by admitting that teenage girls above age of consent can be attractive.
Not at all. Being attracted to someone who is 19 is not a pedo, but they don't do anything for me. I see someone who is way too young for me.
shareLike I said, I wouldn't date one either.
I could only live with a woman my age, who can stimulate me intellectually and relate to me. I would be embarrassed to be seen with a girl that young. I also look down on men who date girls in their daughters age.
But marriage and morals is different from sexual attraction.
It's normal to find girls in their late teens attractive. You could argue that it's immoral and disturbing to date one, and I wouldn't disagree, but the sexual attraction itself is perfectly normal.
I don't think it's normal at all. You can clearly see when someone is too young whether they are of age or not.
share"a man in his late 30s, I'm not attracted to 18-year-olds."
You are either a closet homo, or a liar, but nobody believes a 30 year old heterosexual man doesn't find a fine 18 year old attractive. 🤣
No, my mind automatically knows they're way too young. The older people get, the more their age ranges change. When I was in grade 12, there were some girls in grade 9 I was attracted to, but when I was 20, I felt no attraction to any girls in the 9th grade.
shareOh come on, you are so full of it!
What if you see a girl outside, you do not know her, so also not how old she is.
You look at her and know "nah, she's not 22, she's 19 so I do not find her hot!"?
You are aware you are surrounded by other dudes here that immediately know you're full of shit, don't you?
Also nothing to do with being "a creep". A creep would pursue a 16 year old and try to get her in his bed because she's just some object for him. A man can acknowledge that she is very attractive but restrain himself.
What if you see a girl outside, you do not know her, so also not how old she is.
You look at her and know "nah, she's not 22, she's 19 so I do not find her hot!"?
What if you see a girl outside, you do not know her, and you think she's hot. She walks closer to you and you realize she's a dude. Are you still attracted?
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Still? No, because now I know it wasn't what I thought it was.
I sure was initially because I did not know better.
Just like you would lust over a 17 year old just the same, not knowing she is below your self-declared arbitrary age limit that somehow defies biological programming.
Still? No, because now I know it wasn't what I thought it was.
This is your argument:
Attraction knowing that she's over 18 = acceptable
Attraction finding out that she is under 18 = acceptable
Attraction thinking that the man is a woman = acceptable
Attraction finding out that the woman is actually a man = no way.
You're okay with being attracted to her being under 18 because it's "normal", but you would put the breaks finding out she's a man. share
Yes, you understood something at least.
If you now try to understand why, you would make a lot of progress actually.
Can you do that, though?
Hint: Try to understand why the comparison you are making is completely asinine, that should help.
You said earlier that you can't change your attraction. So if you are attracted to someone you thought was a woman, you can't suddenly not be attracted to it just because you find out it's a guy.
shareBy 16, most girls have reached full physical maturity (that is, exited puberty), and so there really is nothing unnatural about finding a girl of that age attractive. Men should not attempt to engage in relationships with them, but it's not because they are not yet physically mature. It's because they are not yet psychologically and emotionally mature.
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shareYour comment makes the most sense among all the ones that I've read here. Girls of that age are physically appealing but uninteresting. Thus, making them lose their attractiveness (unless you are under 20) when spoke to. A man that tries to engage in a relationship of any sort with such a young woman is knowingly taking advantage of her.
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"No. That's why you should wait until she's at least 20. But where are you going to draw the line? What if she was 14. DO you think the magic switch is going to turn on when she's 16."
No, I do not think there is some magic switch, that was my point to begin with, why would you ask?
See, there are reasons why girls were married off very young in the past. You might call this "perverted" or whatever today, but it wasn't done because people were "perverts", it was done because once a girl is fully grown and bleeds she can bear children and is now, biologically, a woman. Biologically speaking, there is nothing wrong with that and depending on where you are on this planet, you will find countries where the age of consent is as low as 14.
And what do you mean "wait"? With what? Being attracted?
Either you are attracted to someone, or you are not. You cannot tell yourself to stop finding someone attractive because "dude she is 19, wait 87 days until she turns 20 - then it's okay because uh... reasons!"
That is so absurd and disconnected from reality, you cannot mean it.
"A a man in his late 30s, I'm not attracted to 18-year-olds."
See I was hoping for an honest discussion because it is an interesting topic but as usual people just aren't honest so this is all pointless, unfortunately.
You can protest all you like and insist you are that one non gay dude on the planet who doesn't think a 18 year old is hot... because she ain't 20 yet, I won't believe it and if Hell freezes over. If you would have said you aren't interested in a serious relationship with an 18 year old, yeah okay, I can perfectly understand that and am literally in the same boat (man, late 30s), but if she looks great and runs around in tight yoga pants, don't tell me you won't "notice" that ass!
And why 20!? What about 18, the legal age even in backwards USA?
She can run a business with 18 or join the military, but a guy can't find her hot?
Get real.
No, I do not think there is some magic switch, that was my point to begin with, why would you ask?
Because you assumed that I claimed that if she was 18, then she would magically turn hot. 18 is still too young for me.
See, there are reasons why girls were married off very young in the past.
Interesting that you specify that girls were marrying young instead of saying, "couples married young because a woman's body was old enough to give birth." Your perspective automatically went to the the youth of the girl regardless of the age of the man. It sounds predatory.
you will find countries where the age of consent is as low as 14.
I don't care if if the age of consent is legally 14. A 30 year old being attracted to a 14 year old is gross.
but if she looks great and runs around in tight yoga pants, don't tell me you won't "notice" that ass!
Once I see a woman who looks too young, I'm automatically not interested. She could even be 23 but if she looks like she's 16, I'm out.
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"Because you assumed that I claimed that if she was 18, then she would magically turn hot."
No, you don't understand. I am saying the opposite of what you think I'm saying.
What I am trying to convey is that the actual age does not matter, it only matters what you see and are attracted to. You cannot say "I am not attracted to 18 year olds" because that's not how it works.
What you're actually saying - and no one will ever believe you - is "I am not attracted to women in their biological prime."
Of course you are. An 18 year old can look older or younger, just like a 24 year old can. Your claim that for you it is all based on age is nonsense, because you obviously will be attracted to a mature looking 18 year old, if you want it or not. Your claims become especially absurd when we factor in not knowing a strangers age.
"Interesting that you specify that girls were marrying young instead of saying, "couples married young because a woman's body was old enough to give birth." Your perspective automatically went to the the youth of the girl regardless of the age of the man. It sounds predatory."
I honestly have no clue what you're trying to say, and why does a fact sound "predatory" (oh please...).
"I don't care if if the age of consent is legally 14. A 30 year old being attracted to a 14 year old is gross."
If that 14 year old looks like an adult woman, which very well can be the case, the attraction itself is hardly gross but perfectly natural. The societal aspect might be a different story - but that is what I was trying to explain earlier, that there is a difference and men are attracted to young women for biological reasons, not because "men are scummy predators". I also mentioned that attraction is one thing and acting upon it is another. Did you skip that part on purpose so you can paint a certain picture, or did you really just miss it?
"Once I see a woman who looks too young, I'm automatically not interested. She could even be 23 but if she looks like she's 16, I'm out."
There it is again... "looks". But... what if she looks older, say 24, and you gaze over her perfect body... and then learn she is actually 16?
So your initial comment: "She's 16. Why are you even thinking about this?" is bogus. 16 or not, a perfect female body is a perfect female body. Pretending otherwise is just pretentious and like I said earlier, no man here believes you for a second.
But hey, I guess we all said what we can say at this point.
It's nothing personal, I just don't like this sort of "holier than thou" hypocrisy found especially among US Americans that pretend that a 17.9 years old girl is "completely off limits no matter what omg you perverted evil predator!" and all that suddenly changes a minute later when she turns "legal".
Tl;dr: Attraction is attraction, you cannot tell yourself to not be attracted to something.
yeah, he's full of shit, and every straight man knows it.
shareNo, you don't understand. I am saying the opposite of what you think I'm saying.
What I am trying to convey is that the actual age does not matter, it only matters what you see and are attracted to. You cannot say "I am not attracted to 18 year olds" because that's not how it works.
Read my other response to you. You claim I can't say: "I am not attracted to 18 year olds" because that's not how it works." Well, if you were attracted to someone who you thought was a woman but was a man, you we're still attracted to him. What I am saying is that you can tell if someone looks too young. Even if she's 30.
I honestly have no clue what you're trying to say, and why does a fact sound "predatory" (oh please...).
You looked at it from a young woman getting married rather than a couple getting married. A woman can be attracted to a 16 year old man, but you framed your argument in the perspective of "well, child brides were normal because they were young enough to give birth".
a perfect female body is a perfect female body.
But you said that if you found out if was a man, you'd no longer be attracted. What makes it not a perfect body anymore? Being a man shouldn't change it if it was perfect, right?
I just don't like this sort of "holier than thou" hypocrisy found especially among US Americans that pretend that a 17.9 years old girl is "completely off limits no matter what omg you perverted evil predator!" and all that suddenly changes a minute later when she turns "legal".
I'm not the one here defending a man who knows a girl's age is 16 and is sexualizing her by starting a post saying that she's going to be hot. share
"What I am saying is that you can tell if someone looks too young. Even if she's 30."
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever and it is obvious you're just saying this because you realized by now how flawed your logic was to begin with. As if you see some 30 year old that "looks too young" and then not think she's attractive. Broken record maybe but: You are really full of shit.
"You looked at it from a young woman getting married rather than a couple getting married. A woman can be attracted to a 16 year old man, but you framed your argument in the perspective of "well, child brides were normal because they were young enough to give birth"."
I did no such thing, but it is telling that you're trying to frame it that way...
Also never mentioned child brides. In fact, I did not name any specific scenario, just the fact that throughout history, women were married young for good, biological, reasons.
Just for the record, I am not talking about some 12 year olds, just before you're starting your framing bullshit again.
"But you said that if you found out if was a man, you'd no longer be attracted. What makes it not a perfect body anymore? Being a man shouldn't change it if it was perfect, right?"
I said FEMALE body. You even quoted me and still didn't read it?
"I'm not the one here defending a man who knows a girl's age is 16 and is sexualizing her by starting a post saying that she's going to be hot."
No, you are the one that is so obviously lying about all of this to have some sort of moral high ground even at the cost of defying basic biology. I'd rather have have some honest guy who admits that 16 year old is attractive than someone who literally goes out of his way to deny it.
As for "sexualizing her"... lol. Look at her instagram, she got that part covered better than he ever could.
Looks like she's warming up for her Onlyfans account once she turns 18, which is the real elephant in the room in my opinion. A whole generation born to be THOTs. Horrible.
As if you see some 30 year old that "looks too young" and then not think she's attractive.
You realize that there are guys that fetishize this kids of thing, right? People like women who are of age but have a youthful look. It's like when guys like to see adults dressed up in school uniforms.
Just for the record, I am not talking about some 12 year olds, just before you're starting your framing bullshit again.
I know you're not, but earlier you said 18 was arbitrary. I'm trying to point at there has to be an arbitrary age implemented or else people start thinking that being attracted to 12
year olds is healthy.
No, you are the one that is so obviously lying about all of this to have some sort of moral high ground even at the cost of defying basic biology.
Well you're the one who decided to come after me instead of the OP who claimed that this underage girl is going to be hot. He sexualized her and you said nothing about it. share
You realize that there are guys that fetishize this kids of thing, right? People like women who are of age but have a youthful look. It's like when guys like to see adults dressed up in school uniforms."
Of course, but what is your point?
I know you're not, but earlier you said 18 was arbitrary. I'm trying to point at there has to be an arbitrary age implemented or else people start thinking that being attracted to 12
year olds is healthy.
A 12 year old will never look "fully grown", hence normal men will not be attracted to them. It's a different story with 16 year olds as we can see. Did you check her instagram btw?
Well you're the one who decided to come after me instead of the OP who claimed that this underage girl is going to be hot. He sexualized her and you said nothing about it.
In my experience, and that is quite some years now on this weird board, there is no point to even try to talk to people like OP. 99% of them are trolls that just want to provoke a reaction from people like you and I won't waste my time with them. Or, he is dead serious, but in that case I am not interested in immature "locker room talk".
However, what he said in itself, is true. Clearly, she will be "hot". Eye of the beholder aside, she is obviously a genetic lottery winner. That aside, I don't feel much pity when someone "sexualizes" a girl that so desperately wants exactly that. Seems like a win/win for her?
However, where I see potentially interesting discussions is with people that have arbitrary morale standards that clearly pretend they can just turn off biology if "society demands it", see the US and the weird "18 year old barrier" and now you say even that is not enough, again ignoring biology as if we aren't "programmed" in so many ways. I find this interesting and wonder what makes people believe such things. share
Of course, but what is your point?
Fetishizing adult girls in school uniforms is not much different than being attracted to girls who are 16.
A 12 year old will never look "fully grown", hence normal men will not be attracted to them. It's a different story with 16 year olds as we can see. Did you check her instagram btw?
I saw her Instagram. But why can't a 12 year old look 16? There was an actress I saw a few months ago who I thought was 17 but on her IMDb it said she was 13.
In my experience, and that is quite some years now on this weird board, there is no point to even try to talk to people like OP.
Fair enough.
Clearly, she will be "hot". Eye of the beholder aside, she is obviously a genetic lottery winner.
Then why not just say she's pretty like parents say to their own children. You could even say "cute". But saying "hot" is just creepy. share
COUTH,MANNERS,RESPONSIBILITY,RIGHT AND WRONG?...NONE OF THESE CONCEPTS EXIST IN YOUR CREEPER WORLD?
shareNo. Most guys start “admiring” girls long before they magically turn hot the moment the clock hits midnight on their 18th birthday.
shareWhy not?
16 is legal in secular, liberal countries and states such as most European countries and Canada.
Not everyone here lives in Medieval theocratic shitholes like Iraq and Texas.
I do disagree with him though.
She's already hot. Already late in the pubertal phase where she looks more like a young woman than a girl.
Any honest straight male would find this attractive.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcjHAA_pGHs/?hl=en
So tell me, are you gay, a girl, in denial or a pedophile who is only into kids that haven't reached puberty?
YOU'RE GETTING SUPER CREEPY NOW,MISTER PEDOFOOT.
shareWhy not?
16 is legal in secular, liberal countries and states such as most European countries and Canada.
Even if 12 or 14 was legal, that doesn't mean I would be attracted to them either. share
Most US states are 16. Repressed California is 18!
shareThe way people are talking you'd swear she was dressed like a nun on her Insta. She's basically making love to the camera. She's sexualised herself but of course it's mens' fault for then seeing her in a sexual way.
shareI almost think the Makenzie Moss PR team is behind this thread. She keeps trending.
shareThere’s absolutely no way she’s 16
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