Since Alexander the Great some Indian Elites were very light skinned almost European looking Haley is descended from them probably but 90% of modern Indians are very dark skinned
shareThe Indo-Aryans who invaded India were white. They came from Central Asia 1800 BC to 1500 BC. We know by language they are the same people who settled in Europe. The "whiteness" of Indians did not come from the Greeks.
shareTrue but but Greeks also contributed to the gene pool it's undeniable
shareShe looks Pakistani. Superficially, maybe she can pass for a white American, and Middle Easterners and North Africans are considered white on the US Census, but if you'd ask on Stormfront, I'm sure they wouldn't consider someone with her background white over there. The same goes for all Middle Easterners and South Asians, including Jews. They define white as Christians of fully European origin.
And her parents and kids (who are half white American) are browner than she is, so her whiteness seems to be a throwback case. Most Indians are brown and have Australoid admixture, and a minority have East Eurasian admixture in the Northeast. Only in NW India can you find people who are fully or predominantly Caucasoid.
Yes. I found a pic of her and her son. Not white.
https://people.com/thmb/cNyx88c2emmT5aE4ehxNjh5PDYg=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(999x0:1001x2)/nikki-haley-family-8-edfba826870b4771a9d8e95fc0272be4.jpg
He and her sister look more exotic when they have a tan.
They as children: https://rimphotography.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/haleyfamily086bem2.jpg
Compare the daughter with a tan and without:
https://www.thelist.com/img/gallery/rena-haley-jackson-all-about-nikki-haleys-daughter/intro-1701746248.jpg
https://iitnotablealumni.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Rena-Haley-Wedding-Dress.jpg
Nikki's parents look very Punjabi: https://iloveyoubutyouregoingtohell.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/nikki-haley-parents.jpg
Anyway, I find no controversy in an Indian identifying as a minority or person of color. Gypsies are from India. There aren't many in the US, but not many in all likelihood would say they're 'white' in Europe. I can see a case for arguing that Linda Sarsour is white, but Indians as a whole feel a stretch. Although in Europe (which has a much larger Middle Eastern population than the US), Muslims are not really considered white, like in the US in the past:
"throughout the [thirteen] colonies the terms Christian, free, white were ... employed indiscriminately" Reference: Jordan, Winthrop (1974). White Over Black: American Attitudes Towards the Negro. p. 97.share
"An Armenian successfully argued (and the Supreme Court agreed) that his nationality was White in contradistinction to other people of the Near East—Kurds, Turks, and Arabs in particular—on the basis of their Christian religious traditions. Case: United States v. Cartozian (1925).
Interesting that you mention Linda Sarsour. Arabs have mostly been defined as white in the U.S., up until the current Islamophobia that is. Marlo Thomas, "That Girl", is half Arab. Her father Danny Thomas is Arab. Casey Kasem, the renowned America DJ, is Arab. They're part of the melting pot and I don't recall seeing any of them called "nonwhite". I'm half Greek. I look about as "white" as Nikki Haley's son.
Everyone from the people of northern India to Ireland are all descended from the prehistoric Indo-European tribe of the Asian steppes. We know that because all their languages descended from a common source. Perhaps a better term than "white" or Caucasian for Europeans would be "Indo-European". It's really one "race".
The Indo-Europeans who invaded India like the Hindi and the Punjabi (Nikki Haley) mixed with indigenous Dravidians (an obviously nonwhite people).
And remember, Muslim is not synonymous with Arab of course. There are Christian Arabs.
You also mention Armenians. Cher is Armenian. So are those profligates the Kardashians. They come from further east than the Muslim Turks. Nobody calls them nonwhite.
I dislike the term white and prefer Caucasoid or, even more so, West Eurasian. People should say European like you put it, but a lot of people ignorantly use white as synonymous with European.
I mentioned Linda Sarsour because she once said on twitter that she identified as a POC because she didn't have white privilege, and that if she had it, maybe she would consider herself to be. I think when these Middle Easterners identify as POC, it is not much different from when WASPs like Elizabeth Warren say they're not white because they're 1/128 Native American.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240208071052/https://twitter.com/lsarsour/status/616090017954463744
The argument the Armenian made to the Supreme Court was that Armenians were white because their Christian. Some have this mindset that if you're Muslim, that makes you not white. So they can consider a Maltese person (who are basically Catholic ethnic Arabs more or less native to Europe) white, but not an Albanian or Bosnian who is a Muslim. That is not based on 'racial science' obviously, but is just xenophobia, I guess. But it held up in a court case once.
Full on Nazi BS.
What will you do when Trump loses?
Lol, I'm not even a Republican. Do you even know what's going on here?
shareWhat does Republican have to do with anything? Nothing.
Always the people who say stuff like this - "Do you even
know what's going on", who don't know what's going on.
Read the fucking thread, dumbass. What's a matter, is all this talk of Indians and their history too confusing for you, dumbshit? Is it?
This is not about Trump, you bleeding idiot.
Will you all shut the fuck up... Fuckin weirdos.
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