his mom sent out a robocall calling trans pedos, while defending her pedo son
https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/06/michelle-duggar-still-thinks-trans-women-are-child-predators/
the sweet sweet power of religious hypocrisy
It's disgusting ain't it??! Keep in mind, their religion is man- made. It's not Jesus Church.
shareI mean you can see below someone defending them. so disgusting yes, surprising no.
I have yet to be convinced that every religion isn't man made and have no good reason to believe any of their god claims. but im open to evidence if you have any
Evidence? The Church of Christ. Jesus only Church. The little flock, according to the King James version of the Bible. This is the Church I belong to. I was baptized in 2016, very happy about it. We follow scripture. We do not add or subtract from the Bible. Best to read the four gospels of Christ and the Book of Acts.
Those man-made religions, example: Baptist, Catholic, Latter Day Saints, Methodist and etc. Those false churches do not follow the gospels. For example, in order to be baptized in Christ, you have to have a full body water baptism and those false churches don't do it. "This do in remembrance of me". You also should take communion every Sunday to remember Christ died for us, Body, blood. Those false churches don't do that every Sunday. Just a few examples I can think of right now.
In the Gospels, Jesus spends a great deal of time explaining to his followers why the Pharisees, Sadducees and/or Scribes may be following the letter of the law and criticized them for not following the spirit of the law. He also emphasized that he was the savior of all, not just the Jews (hence so many stories about Samaritans).
When asked what the greatest commandment was, Jesus replied, “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one; you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” (Mark 12:29-31).
My point being, Jesus was very focused on love, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, helping the poor, widowed and orphaned. Whether a person was fully submerged or sprinkled just doesn't seem like an important detail.
Did you know the King James Version was commissioned in 1604 and published in 1611? That was more than 400 years ago and in a form of the English Language that most people are not really familiar with.
I'm just saying, you have a "holier than thou" attitude, and I don't think that is very Christ-like.
Also, I thought Catholics and Orthodox were the only denominations that believed in Transubstantiation.
I don't have a holier than thou attitude! The only way to have a chance at salvation is to be baptized! If you read and study the Bible, you should know this. Sure, you can love God and His Son Jesus, but you have to be born again by water baptism, full body. If you want me to find the verses, let me know.
shareI would love for you to tell me where in the Bible’s it says that Baptism by immersion is the only valid way.
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Here is a great video from a minister of the Church of Christ, less than 30 minutes. I would urge you to watch to understand the Bible verses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mar5uLyBqR4
Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
1 Peter 3:21 - The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Acts 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
This verse is very important: John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Being born of water and of the Spirit is Baptism. You must be baptized in order to have a chance to be saved. Plenty more verses, but I gotta run. Hope this helps.
Yes, those verses all point to Baptism, but I was specifically asking you to find a verse that says one has to be Baptized by immersion in order for it to be a valid Baptism.
Those man-made religions, example: Baptist, Catholic, Latter Day Saints, Methodist and etc. Those false churches do not follow the gospels.
You made a point of saying that some churches are "man-made" and called them "false churches." That was why I said you were taking a "holier than thou" attitude. Say you disagree. Say you believe differently. But when you call them "false churches," you are speaking with an authority that only God has. You are judging. Jesus said, "“Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone." (John 8:7)
For example, in order to be baptized in Christ, you have to have a full body water baptism and those false churches don't do it.
Not one of the verses you listed said anything about "full body water baptism." Some Christian churches baptize by sprinkling or poring water on the individual. I thought you were going to find Bible verses that said baptisms had to be "full body water baptism(s)."
"This do in remembrance of me". You also should take communion every Sunday to remember Christ died for us, Body, blood. Those false churches don't do that every Sunday.
Catholics take Communion every Sunday, and they are not the only ones.
I'm honestly not trying to be mean, but I think it would be very nice of you to not refer to other churches as "false churches." They may have many practices and beliefs that you do not agree with. Maybe just say that instead. share
1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Matthew 3:13-17 13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Romans 16:16 Salute one another with an holy kiss. The Churches of Christ salute you.
You really going to have to read and study the Book of Acts, Romans, Corinthians and etc. All in the New Testament. Jesus established His Church in those books.
The catholic church does not do full body water baptism. I'm not being holier than thou, those churches do not follow Jesus teachings. Again, they do not follow what's said in the books I've listed. What I bolded up there tells how Jesus was baptized. He went up straight out of the water. Full body. Baptized into one body.
The catholic church has a priest that claims he can lead you to God. That is FALSE! Only Jesus can lead us to GOD. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
I don't think you are being mean. I think you should read and study your bible. I've given some pointers. Find you a good minister from a Church of Christ and study, study. If you truly believe and have faith and want to go about it the right way. God Bless.
Are you under the impression that because I ashed you where in the Bible it says that you must be Baptized by immersion that it was because I didn't know? As a matter of fact, I do know. It doesn't. No where in the Bible does it say that. None of the verses you quoted say that. The verses you listed in bold do say that Jesus came out of the water, but they do not say that if you do not put your entire body under the water, you will not be saved. It simply does not say that.
The catholic church does not do full body water baptism. I'm not being holier than thou, those churches do not follow Jesus teachings. Again, they do not follow what's said in the books I've listed. What I bolded up there tells how Jesus was baptized. He went up straight out of the water. Full body. Baptized into one body.
Actually, many Catholic Churches do have full body immersion. I have witnessed Catholic Baptisms where the person was fully immersed.
I suspect you aren't very knowledgeable about Catholicism and that you are merely repeating things you have heard in your own church. There are many, many misconceptions about the Catholic Church, as there are misconceptions about most churches.
A priest is a minister. Ministers are (generally speaking) individuals who have studied and learned about God and lead their congregations. Just as you recommended a video, I'm sure that you listened to your church's leaders. How do you see listening to a priest as being different?
We follow scripture. We do not add or subtract from the Bible. Best to read the four gospels of Christ and the Book of Acts.
It sounds like you've been subjected to propaganda. What gave you the impression that other churches "add or subtract from the Bible?"
I've always been leery of individuals that spend time telling you why other churches are wrong. Does that type of thinking bring you closer to God? share
You quoted 1 Corinthians 12:13 - "For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and we were all made to drink of one Spirit."
Read that again. This is not about Baptism at all. This verse is meant to explain that we are all one body in Christ.
Matthew 3:16-17 - "And when Jesus had been baptized, just as he came up from the water, suddenly the heavens were opened to him and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, 'This is my Son, the Beloved, with whom I am well pleased.'"
The point of those verses is not the exact location of Jesus' baptism. The point is God the Father acknowledging to the crowd, that Jesus is the Son of God ...
Luke 9:35 - "Then from the cloud came a voice that said, "This is my Son, my Chosen; listen to him!"
... and that we should listen to him.
You assumed that I have not studied scripture, but you don't know anything about me. You didn't ask me what my background was or what education I may have.
If you truly believe and have faith and want to go about it the right way.
I do believe and I do have faith and I am Catholic. I honestly don't think you know much about my faith, you've just heard people tell you it's wrong. And I know a great deal more about the Bible than you assume I do. I'm willing to bet I know more about the Bible than you do. share
A baby can't say he/she has faith in the LORD. You have to be old enough to believe and confess your faith and to be baptized. The word baptism means immersion. In order to wash away our sins, our whole body has to be immersed into water. Listen to this service: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2MaxutpqF8
He explains it and makes it plain to understand. God Bless you.
I disagree with some of the teachings you profess, but I am not saying you are wrong or that you belong to a “false church.”
Growing in your faith means asking questions, trying to see other people’s points of view and acknowledging the fact that, as human beings, none of us has all the answers.
1. there are multiple versions of the bible.
2. how do you know your interpretation is correct.
3. prove yours isn't man made and theirs is false.
4. provide christ died for us and did anything supernatural.
none of that provided your religion. you simply claimed, "they are false and ours is right!". you don't think those other sects of christianity would also tell me to read and believe the bible like you did?
Scripture isn't evidence/proof - Scripture is THE CLAIM.
shareI'm an atheist, and I'm moral and happy. Explain that.
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