Stan Lee and Brian Bendis think Glover should audition for Spidey.

Did you read the same link? Lee sounds kind of against it. He says he's a good actor, but otherwise doesn't seem for it...


"Here's the point: We've already had the Kingpin in 'Daredevil' portrayed by a black man, where he was white in the comics, and we've had Nick Fury portrayed by a black man where he was white in the comics. But not that many people had seen these characters - not that many moviegoers are familiar with them [...] Everybody seems to be familiar with Spider-Man, so I say that it isn't that it's a racial issue - it's just that it might be confusing to people."



That sounds like he's tip-toeing around "no", but doesnt want to be called a racist.

I did read the link. That's why I posted it.

"I certainly think he should have a chance to audition."

They just need to make more black superheroes. That's all.

Anton Yelchin for Spidey

I know, but you are making it seem Stan is okay with it... when he's clearly not 100% behind.

I think you're right, Gorillacookies. Everyone freaks out when they cast a black guy as a white character (like Idris Elba playing one of the gods in Thor) even though most of these characters were designed in the '60s, so it makes sense they would be white.

My opinion: don't reboot Spider Man, at least not yet. They're recent movies, we've already seen all that. Make a Black Panther movie, or a Power Man and Iron Fist movie, or a movie with the black Green Lantern. In the meantime, just make more black super heroes in this modern age.

On the run from Johnny Law...Ain't no trip to Cleveland.

Why can't they make super heroes different ethnicity?
I think it kind of sucks, you have these big famous popular ones and they are, well old, and they're white, because that was the majority at the time.

We have black super heroes but they're not mainstream. Look at Black Panther too, he is deep seated in being black. You really couldn't have an African pope be any other ethnicity. Spider-man isn't so deep into it. I dont think spider-man needs to be black, but I certainly dont think he needs to be white. Spider-man to me, is an everyman, and if making him a different ethnicity is what we need to do to make him relate-able, go for it.

I dont know why superman is white though. He's a freaking alien. What are the odds he'd look like a white guy? Shouldn't he be a weird color, like purple or green? Maybe his dad made him look like people of earth before sending him, In which case, why white? Why not asian?


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TO the OP, personally I dont care what Bendis thinks about the situation. He's one of hundreds of people who have worked on Spiderman. His opinion holds no more weight then anyone elses. And let's be honest, if other writers didnt think Spiderman should be black, people like you would call them racist. So it's easier for desenters to not give an opinion or say a black spiderman is a great idea. Easier to conform when you are going to be attacked as a racist no matter what your motives are.

As far as black superheroes, there are alot. But there is something I brough up in a Tim Burton thread where I defended him against charges of him being racist because he doesnt use blacks as main characters. Let's call it exhibit A) Luke Cage - or, Sweet Christmas. Luke was created in the early 70s and was obviously inspired by black action movies, ie Shaft and Superfly. I'm sure the original writers didnt mean anything offense, but now a days alot of people look at Luke's early portrayal as being racist. The problem is the comic book field is done by mostly white guys. So some of them may not have been up 'street' slang hence Sweet Christmas. If you dont write the character 'black' enough then it's racist because he acts white. If you make him too 'black' then he's a stereotype. It's hard for a writer to write a character when alot of people while have preconceptions on what you're 'trying to say' with a black character.

Second thing - honestly, yeah, most comic creators are white. So is the audience. I've been to comic book convnetions as a kid and it was mostly whites. Yes, some asian, blacks and hispanics, but mostly white. Now there are black writers, and attempts to do a black label. Remember Milestone comics?

Let's see, Hardcore who's origin was alot like Guardian from Alpha Flight (inventor of supersuit steals it from the company who paid for it), Icon (black superman), and Blood Syndicate - a street gang. Static was the only one that was successful enough for a cartoon series and that was pretty good. The series didnt last too long, a couple of years. I dont really think it brought in that many black readers. How many black parents would be happy to see there kid looking at Blood Syndicate as role models? About the same number who found out their kid reads anything by Mark Millar.

Now I have nothing againt black superheroes. the problem is not many are done very organically. The comic medium is very controlled, by editors and executives who want to sell rights for toys and crap. Plus the pressure of fans. So creating a black character, to me it seems, is usually not a process of "Let's make this new character black". It seems to be "let's try to create an icon black super awesome rolemodel that's like Dwayne McDuffie's Mary Sue character. And I think that turns off most readers of any race.

Are you a projector? Because you seem to project a lot.