is investing his money to create your utopian republican platform cause...... reasons...
he isn't going to put profits the most important driver in his Twitter plan and policy. nah Elon isn't about making money. he's spending 44 billion for your exact republican ideological reasons.....
The left doesn't seem to have a problem with a billionaire owing the Washington Post.
shareyeah but he is a betabitch nerd billionaire who is one of them. the guy has all the money in the world and the only girl he can pull is a used up plastic surgery faced girl that looks like a discount trans hooker. the libturds are happy if its one of them taking over and restricting free speech but if someone wants freedom and discussion they throw a libfit
shareumm wtf are you talking about... what are "the left" going to do.. yes billionaires own shit. did any of them act like Bezos owning it was the lefts saviour and amazing for the country? show me the articles and posts.
sharemost billionaires are leftist because they can afford to be. the problems of the working person will never impact them
shareCould I see your data that "most billionaires are lefist" ?
shareYou need data to prove this? Its commonly known most billionaires and people close to being billionaires are leftists
https://www.aim.org/special-report/left-wing-myth-of-the-year-billionaires-are-right-wing-conservatives/
That's not a credible source. I'll say what they may or may not want to hear, "Most Billionaires are Right Wing Conservatives", or at least Fiscal Conservatives.
shareI wouldn't post it if its wasn't a credible source. Yes there are billionaires like the Koch brothers and Trump who are conservative. However the majority are very left wing. Do our country a favor and stay home on election day. People like yourself have ruined this country
shareOr the NY Times, who is a Mexican billionaire
shareHe's stated that acquiring Twitter isn't about making money, for him. He is a free-speech absolutist, and views having a free and open marketplace of ideas and debate available to the entire world as being "important to the future of civilization."
Call me naive all you want, but I believe him.
yes you are naive. there are far far cheaper ways (lobbying) to do so
again if you think a billionaire capitalist isn't in it for money, I have a magic bean to sell you!
He is literally the richest human being on planet Earth, by FAR. He doesn't need money. He's not interested in "cheaper ways." He is only interested in the biggest and best way of platforming free speech. And now he has it, owns it, and controls it.
You will now have to deal with it.
"hes the richest man"
"he doesnt need money"
yaa he just got there not because he likes money, it was coincidental.
they would not only would they be cheaper, but more effective.
ill see you infer years when your sipping for Elon Musk and your Utopian belief is a joke
I have no "Utopian belief." That's why I believe in free speech. Because I believe free debate and heavy conflict will ultimately lead to an uncomfortable "truce" which equals peace.
Leading people back to the center is the only way to avoid war.
your understanding of politics is simple and nonsense then. no having a multi party system and ending political corruption/money in politics is the only way to avoid political instability
shareDo you ever get tired of the sound of your atrophied, pea sized brain rattling around in your skull?
sharesoo?
shareSoo... what?
sharehow'd that workout for ya? the capitalist billionaire who'd didnt care about money but did it for freedom?
shareOh he's going to buy it a year or so from now, after the court case, for pennies on the dollar. Stay tuned.
He's not doing it for the money, but he's also not stupid enough to buy something for far less than it's actually worth, after finding and exposing how fraudulently the company's value was inflated in the first place.
buddy this is crackhead conspiracy theory logic. "X proves im right! the opposite of X also proves im right!"
so hes doing it for freedom and the most important thing. but also its for money.. but also its not for money its important.
you need help with your nonsense.......
Grow up, reread everything and think about what you're saying.
Good lord kid, you're fucking STUPID.
you are trying to talk out both sides of your mouth. your first predication failed now you re spouting more nonsense. ill come make fun of you in a few months when hes sued for breach. but im sure you will have a new conspiracy
shareDon't like it? Buy it yourself or build your own.
Also he appears more a centrist.
lol dumbest shit ive ever read. I can just apply that to twitter now. or any company conservatives hate.
ohh dont like twitter shutting down trump and limiting others? buy it yourself or build your own! derp derp
as usual. you sound like a fucking idiot
This is why he left South Africa for America.
The corrupt officials in South African government would taken large shark bites out of his ass, his company would have never gotten off the ground. The officials would have not only taxed is business to death, but would require him to hire incompetent friends of government officials at ludicrous salary to obtain government certificates...TESLA stock would have had to be given away free to compensate for apartheid which are immediately sold because they will get new shares next year (diluting the stock and scaring investment, the country has done this with it's mines)and Tesla company would be required to hire a large precentage of blacks, qualifications be damned. ...oh yeah, the taxes wouldn't go to the people but the officials would line their pockets because checks on governmental corruption are lacking in South Africa.
Off the top of my head I can name 10 other countries that do the same thing.
So THANK you South Africa, for scaring away a business/visionary toπΊπΈ.
America is greater for it.
LOL and this has literally zero to do with what I posted
shareSorry I mistook you for a anti-capitalist.
sharecapitalism is the best system we have it just has to be reigned in and intelligently regulated to try and mitigate some of its more damaging tendencies while maintaining its strengths
How would you reign in Tesla?
shareits not about Tesla specifically, its about the general tendencies of capitalism, and its owners. I mean look at countries with fairer taxes, less political corruption, and better regulations.
The EU has far more regulation of the airline industry. they also have FAR BETTER prices competition.
its what happens when your ethos for regulation is "consumer protection + increased competition"
vs American "protect my corporate donors, crush consumer protections, discourage fair taxes that fund infrastructure and other projects that further competition and trade and social mobility"
its why nordic countries have a higher level of trust in their government, less corruption and better standards of living AND economic mobility.
the American dream, the meritocracy and economic mobility is a myth in america. its just Neo feudalism, except its now CEO's and rich people and their kids going to the best schools and inheriting wealth.
"The business of America is business." ~ Calvin Coolidge
A person who bought just $1000 dollars of Amazon stock in it's IPO 1997 and had the discipline to hold onto it for 24 years, that person would be a millionaire today.(~ $1.3 mil)
America creates titans of business, which is the engine of growth for any country. Many countries can't seem to understand why they can't create them, almost all of the "New Titans" have come from America in the past 50 years.
Mr. Musk made a fortune off of Pay Pal. He could have retired in luxury. The man decided to put his "chips" to work and created new business titans for America.
This is to be commended.
It wouldn't have happened in any other country, because they just see the inequalities of capitalism, and don't fully appreciate or understand it's strengths and therefore don't fully embrace it.
"America creates titans of business, which is the engine of growth for any country. Many countries can't seem to understand why they can't create them, almost all of the "New Titans" have come from America in the past 50 years.
It wouldn't have happened in any other country, because they just see the inequalities of capitalism, and don't fully appreciate or understand it's strengths and therefore don't fully embrace it."
wtf are you talking about LOL
the US is the most geographically blessed country in the world. it has no strong enemies close giving it relative stability from enemies for hundreds of years. as well as a perfect placement to trade to both Europe and Asia. its has the most fertile land I in the world.. it has massive natural resources including oil it needed to skyrocket its industrial revolution. it had a massive pool of at first free, and then simply poor black and white workers it was willing to exploit for profits. it massively profited off the blood of dead europeans in both world wars. catapulting it even faster global superpower. as it played neutrality while please dont act like its some great American exceptionalism. its literally no mystery at all.
and now said greed is catapulting china to a higher position. American greed finally came to bite itself as unregulated capitalism meant shifting jobs and IP and R&D overseas.. now that the world isnt in ruin after ww2, and the US has to actually compete economically, and doesnt have all that blood profit from ww2. it is getting surpassed in decades.
lol your historical reimagination and American exceptionalism dick sucking is truly embarassing.
Somebody doesn't know about the Marshall plan.
It required great effort to convince US taxpayers, members of Congress to support it.
For a brush up for your historical knowledge, I provided a link.
www.britannica.com/event/Marshall-Plan
History is full of "What Ifs?"
I truly mind blowing one is what would Europe look like if the Marshall plan was never implemented.
of all the factors I mentioned you couldn't address a single one. and instead introduced this one? And thats all you had? "but da marshal plan!! the US spent 12 billion dollars so they weren't war profiteers!"
hhahahhaahahhahahahahahaha
and now im going to educate you and bring you to school on American GDP during pre and during ww2. I dont expect a reply after the savage beat down im about to give.
So after the Great Depression the US economy clearly retracted. it was so bad and unstable that it in 1929 it was 105 billion. Then it contracting to 57 billion in 1933. and even though it expanded from 1933 on it wasnt perfect growth. in 1937 it was 93 billion but 1938 contracts again to 87 billion.
so what happened during ww2? (in billions)
1940-103
1941-129
1942-166
1943-203
1944-224
1945-228
LOL it literally doubled in 5 years, while previously barely growing and even often contracting in the last 10. lol and the US weren't war profiteers? why because they gave 12 billion after the war? which actually by helping stabilize Europe increased demand for US products, furthering help their own economy. Wow what a crazy what if. Europe recovers far far slower, and the US economy also grows far far slower. who they going to sell products to? totally rely on their own domestic economy?
What's the point of having a roaring US post ww2 economy is Europe is too poor to buy your goods? again the Marshal plan was nothing but more self interest. handing back a tiny percent of the blood money back to help the US.
so the growth from the beginning of the war til end resulted in a net GDP increase of 500 billion dollars compared to what it was at peak pre war! and you are praising them for giving 12 billion back in their blood soaked money? or 2.4% of just what they gained. if we count total GDP for the war years thats 900 billion. or the marshal plan equalling 1.3%
how generous USA! thank you! totally selfless!
wow what heroess. you sure showed me the US wasnt war profiteers!
The heroes are the American soliders buried in Normandy American cemetery in France.
Here is another brush up link.
www.abmc.gov/normandy
in others words, you have fuck all. I didnt need your first brush up Marshall Plan link. I fucking destroyed you on that. its why you won't even touch it.
and now you are doing the same nonsense i'm going to have to destroy you on again
Yes American soldiers died, while industrialists made a shit tonne of money. And you are now trying to ride on their fallen valour to make it so I cant criticize American war profiteering. you are a scumbag. really man. a fucking scumbag
American exceptionalism has also created a drug called Norvasic, made by the Titan American company Pfizer for high blood pressure. The most popular in the world.
shareLol you are all over the place haha. ill take that as you conceding. this was an embarrassing exchange for you
shareI suggest you reread the Marshall plan and try better to understand it's historical purpose.
Hint it wasn't for the benefit of
US industry.
yes I get it to ward off Soviet influence. its almost like it can be multifaceted.
if you dont think that stabillizing European economies , making them a US ally who bought and could buy moreS goods en masse wasnt good for the US economy. you are an idiot
"The Marshall Plan generated a resurgence of European industrialization and brought extensive investment into the region. It was also a stimulant to the U.S. economy by establishing markets for American goods."
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/marshall-plan
"The Marshall Plan, it should be noted, benefited the American economy as well. The money would be used to buy goods from the United States, and they had to be shipped across the Atlantic on American merchant vessels."
https://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/democrac/57.htm
you are an idiot. I love when clowns try and lecture me on history. and dont know fuck all.
As a neutral observer, reading this exchange, Redsfan001 destroyed you. You probably don't live in America
shareLAWL he destroyed me by... never addressing any of what I said. by ignoring my paragraphs of evidence (geographical advantage, trade option advantage ect). latching on to the marshal plan, then getting disproven? then jumping to another topic when I destroyed him on that?
lol you are as sad as him
is investing his money to create your utopian republican platform cause...... reasons...
he isn't going to put profits the most important driver in his Twitter plan and policy. nah Elon isn't about making money. he's spending 44 billion for your exact republican ideological reasons.....
What do you mean?
serious question.
sorry it was sarcasm, I meant.
"He isnt going to prioritize profits as his most important motivation in deciding his twitter business plan. nah Elon isnt about making money. Hes spending 44 billion for the republicans ideological reasons on this board, to create "freedom"
I was making fun of conservatives for being so naive
so to further clarify you meant:
"conservatives think he's doing it for them and their free speech, but obviosly he's doing it for money at the end of the day"
?
In your mind, making money and making the world a better place aren't compatible. Grow up.
sharein my mind someone who spent 44 billion dollars on a business, is trying to make money. how extreme of me
shareI see you are getting hammered again in another debate. So let me guess. Come November, I assume you will be voting for 40 year high inflations, open borders and high gas prices, right?
shareLOL so care to man up bitch? how did the deal work out?
shareMusk is the greatest capitalist of all time. He will do the deal when Twitter comes clean about its amount of users. You lose. I win. Again
shareLOL what happened to be getting hammered? Elon ISNT buying twitter and is now going to court soon. hahaha only in your delusional mind did you win anything, but you need to repeat that since you are a constant loser in real life
shareI think anyone who makes money is an Adolf Hitler fan. You with me brother?
shareShould he step back and let multi billion companies like BlackRock continue to own it? Virtue advertising hypocrites.
shareLol extreme leftist freakouts over this are TOO FUNNY π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
Have a fucking cry about it loser.
It's a private platform and he can do whatever he wants, remember. He can choose to leave it a democrat utopian echo chamber if he wants ... But it appears that it's going to become centrist/neutral.
No-one is acting like he's saving anything - more leftist extremists are freaking out because of something on the internet π€¦πΏββοΈπ€¦πΏββοΈπ€¦πΏββοΈπ€¦πΏββοΈ
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