Jesus was an arab


yet white wasp hate arabs...

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No, he wasn't an Arab.
Jesus was Jewish and spoke Aramaic as his mother tongue.

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he didnt even exist according to historians also arabs were jews before islam.

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Actually they were not. pre-Islam Arabs were mostly polytheistic and worshipped a mishmash of local gods and deities.

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and were also jewish..

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Well, it is true that there were some Jews in pre-Islamic Arabia.
I believe that Muhammed even had a Jewish concubine.
However, most of the population belonged to the pre-Islamic Arabic religion.

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No.
Arabs were Christian or Pagan.
There were Jews in Arabia. There still is, in Yemen.
However they consider themselves as ethnic Hebrews, not Arabs.

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According to some historians. Many historians believe that a real historical man existed who later became the basis of Christianity. They believe he was a Jewish rebel who had a following and he was crucified by the Romans for being an insurrectionist.


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True genetically speaking. The Jews from Biblical times were just rebranded Arabs.

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They believe Jesus was American. Bring Jesus to the present in a time machine and he would be deported.

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and held at Guantanamo Bay

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But again, you seem to forget that Jesus was Jewish and would have been an Israeli today.
So he would most likely stay in Israel and not go anywhere else.

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he fought against the roman occupation.

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Actually, that is what he didn't do according to traditional Christian beliefs.
Jesus clearly got along fine with Romans like Pontius Pilate according to the gospels.

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Jesus clearly got along fine with the Romans !? I guess that's why the Romans crucified him because they were such good buddies.

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Well, it is not that simple.
If you want to believe the gospels, Pilate wanted to let Jesus go and not execute him.
However, some priests made accusations that Jesus planned a riot.
Pilate couldn't see any proof of this, but couldn't get out of crucifying Jesus anyway.
The priests had somehow managed to convince enough people to demand it.
Is all of this true?
That is not an easy question to answer after almost two thousand years.
However, it is clear that early Christians blamed Jesus's death on "the Jews".
Pilate is portrayed as an unwilling pawn in some vicious plot to get Jesus killed.
There are some legends, which tell us that Pilate's wife became a Christian.


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The Gospels were written decades after the death of Jesus and as each Gospel came along they became increasingly anti-Jewish. This mirrors the growing schism between the Jews and the Christians who were themselves Jews to begin with but eventually split away from Judaism altogether.

I recommend the following PBS documentary if you are interested in the early history of Christianity. It is from a historical not a true believer perspective:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/showsreligion/



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Yes, it is true that some parts of the New Testament have an anti-Jewish slant.
But I can still believe that many priests wouldn't have approved of laymen preachers.
Remember how Jesus attacked the merchants outside the temple?
I believe that that alone was enough to make the priests feel a need to get rid of him.
Of course, you can argue that it can't be true that Pilate would try to save him.
However, it is hardly unlikely that the local clergy would have wanted to stop Jesus.
Because a rebel leader could have hurt their positions and vexed the Romans.

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Jesus attacked the money lenders in the Temple at Passover. It was a highly symbolic and political act. The Romans routinely crucified rebels and Jesus had declared himself as a rebel with a capital "R". His crucifix had a little sign on it that said he was "The King of the Jews".

He was crucified by the Romans for being an insurrectionist. Standard operating procedure. The conversation with Pontius Pilate never happened. It was invented as was most of what is in the Gospels.



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The conversation with Pontius Pilate never happened. It was invented as was most of what is in the Gospels.

Except, you don't really know that.

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Except it is far, far more likely than not. But believe what you want to.

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Im not an expert but that have a lot of sense, the catholic religion have his base ir rome is obvious they would create a picture of Jesus were they are not the main antagonist but the jews

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The gospels were written long before there was a Catholic church though.
Even so, it is true that the Romans had the power in the region already when they were written.

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Yes but are diferent gospels with diferent versions of the life of Jesus and in the first council of Nicea the romans take the desicion of wich one would become the oficial version and wich would be reject and besides that is very possible correction were made in the gospels that were choose

Again not an expert just repeting what a read some time ago in my teen years because i grow up in a very chatolic family and i start to feel that wasent for me so i start to read about history and try to understand the religion and that was one of the very things i tought was odd the very system crucified Jesus is not the bad guy in the oficial story but others

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Dear OP,

You were wrong this morning when you chose to get out of bed and here you are WRONG again.

Pathetic.

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lel

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im not the one worshipping an arab

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That's gotta hurt !

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white wasp not hate arabs. arabs hate white wasp

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arabs don't even know what wasp is.

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Can't we all just like people for who they are and be ok with differences?

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ACK ACK ACK !!!

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No, because that would be enlightened. Absent hatred, there is no social internet.

To speak seriously: this hatred is pathetic.

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OP is racist shit bag.

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