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If you're British I've got a few questions about the Royal Family


I'm sorry, but as an American I don't really understand how Royalty actually works across the pond.
1. Do the majority of Brits really want the Royal Family to continue?
2. Does the Royal Family help the average British citizen in any way?
3. How do the Brits look at controversial female figures like Sarah Ferguson, Princess Di, and Meghan Markle? Are these women considered somewhat as heroes or looked at with extreme disdain?
Thanks!

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Do the majority of Brits really want the Royal Family to continue?

Yes
Does the Royal Family help the average British citizen in any way?

In what way? They do tons of charity work at home and abroad, most goes unnoticed. Remember being a Royal is a full time job 365 days a year.
How do the Brits look at controversial female figures like Sarah Ferguson, Princess Di, and Meghan Markle? Are these women considered somewhat as heroes or looked at with extreme disdain

You would have to ask them but from my experience as I lived through the death of Diana. Diana was adored by the public, their is a reason she was called the people's princess. She had a love, hate relationship with the media. She would call them out for what they were and then in the next sentence set up a leak so they knew where she would be for a good photo op.

Sarah Ferguson was seen as a bit of a joke and not taken very seriously.

Meghan Markle is split but most do deem her as a bit of a grifter. She wanted the Royal life but not do any of the work, Kate is vastly more popular and amazingly it has nothing to do with the fact she is mixed race (not gonna say black because she isn't) no matter how much she wants to push the racism row. England has a very small black community and it is even smaller in wales and scotland, we have a much larger what we call asian community made up of Indians, pakistanis, muslims, that type of thing.

In the beginning the media fawned over her, the crowds cheered and then people started seeing the cracks, the media manipulation. They kept pointing towards articles that showed her in a negative light and pushed it as racist which it wasn't but at the same time ignoring all the articles that were for her and congratulating her in some fashion. Like I said split.

Finally. The only person that will lose out on this will be Meghan. The Queen might look like your grandmother but she rules the Windsors with an iron fist. She is very powerful (in the political and royal circles), well loved round the world and very influential and has almost anyone of power on speed dial. She is the largest land owner in the world. She has done a job she never asked for all her life and she won't have anyone mess her family up. Eventually Harry will come crawling back in 5 years, 10 years or whenever that may be.

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Well la-dee-da Mr. Fancypants! We got the Kardashians over here in America, and they’re more classy and sophisticated than any Royal...HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I couldn’t even finish that.

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Like hell they are!

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Pretty sure Glum was being sarcastic. The Kardashians are a boil on a carbuncle on the anus of America.


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I would not say they were that bad, I am not a fan. Thankfully, I never had a boil, I heard they are very painful.

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Nice post!

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Megan Markle isn't a "liar" or a "grifter"---she's well educated, and had her own life and her own career long before she met Harry or his fam. She wasn't sitting around waiting for some prince or whatever to come along. Frankly, people outside Britain could give less than a damn who the royal family is. And yeah, some of the coverage of Markle in the Brit tabloids was racist---how the hell is comparing her son to a damn monkey not racist? And some people asking how dark-skinned her child was going to be--come the fck on, now. Also how do you know Markle wasn't "doing any of the work", as you claim? I think she really wasn't ready for being a member of the royal family or marrying into them entailed. Americans have this over-glamorized idea of what the royal family is like, and tend to put them on too much of a pedestal anyway. That being said, let's be real----some people in the royal family clearly had issues with the fact that Markle is biracial---and yes, in America she is considered black, period----like most biracial people who are part-black are over here. Let's not pretend that they didn't. And because she didn't fall in line and pretend there were no problems, or ignore the racist digs being thrown at her---that's the only reason she got al the hate she did----because she didn't feed into the royal myth, that's all.

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Megan Markle isn't a "liar" or a "grifter

I never said liar.

She wasn't sitting around waiting for some prince or whatever to come along

Never implied she was

Frankly, people outside Britain could give less than a damn who the royal family is

Yes that is why they are the biggest tourist attraction in England.

And yeah, some of the coverage of Markle in the Brit tabloids was racist---how the hell is comparing her son to a damn monkey not racist?

It wasn't racist. it amazes me how literal Americans are. He was comapring the child to a performing monkey being brought out for the amusment of others. You would now this if you looked into it and not just read healines.

And some people asking how dark-skinned her child was going to be--come the fck on

Why not. Are we now not allowed to discuss the skin of people anymore.

Also how do you know Markle wasn't "doing any of the work", as you claim

She left England. Doesn't do any charity work within the royal realm. She even said she didn't want anything to do with the family and so fled to america. She didn;t want anything except the money and fame and notoriety that comes to being married to a royal.

I think she really wasn't ready for being a member of the royal family or marrying into them entailed

You do realise the future brides are groomed and trained long before marriage. She knew exactly what she was getting into and if she didn't then she is naive.

some people in the royal family clearly had issues with the fact that Markle is biracial---and yes, in America she is considered black, period

I'm sure you have tons of evidence to back that claim up. Se is bi-racial not black. White and black parents so she is as much white as she is black. I'm sure her white father would love to know she doesn't like being white.

Let's not pretend that they didn't

You can't prove that they did either.

And because she didn't fall in line and pretend there were no problems, or ignore the racist digs being thrown at her

Again i am sure you have tons of evidence to back that up.

that's the only reason she got al the hate she did

No it isn't. She started to get criticised not hate because she was unwilling to the job she married into.

A lot of words you wrote there unfortunately notmuch truth. The press fawned over her when she arrived. There was a meme about the bad press going around which showed newspaper headlines. You could also find the same about newspaper headlines that praised her and showed her in a good light. Yes everyone hated her that is why the marriage had millions watching and streets were lined with people and parties. Nonsense. She didn't help herself and the moment it started going south she thre in the race card. Agin she isn't black she is bi-racial. The very defintion of the word neghates her being black. Funny though how she only chooses to be black when it suit sher needs. when she was actress she deemed herslef white. it is as if she uses her skin colour to her advantage, how abou that.

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First of all, race is looked at completely different in America than it is in Britain. If you are part-black, you are considered black period. If you have one black parent, it dosen't matter whether your other parent is white, red, or yellow, you're black as far as American society is concerned. Especially if you look more black than white. Being bi-racial is not some automatic erasure of the black part of your identity----being part-white does not make you any less black. Look up the term "one-drop rule"---yes, it has no scientific basis in fact, and is actually pretty fckg stupid, mainly because it was made up by slaveowners during slavery to determine who was mixed and who wasn't. Also, black people being compared to monkeys is a disgusting old racist stereotype and insult toward black people that isn't and never has been funny at all. Especially because no one would ever compare a white child to a monkey. And she's never "chosen" to be black----she was born black, and that is how American society sees her as black. In fact, she wrote an article years before she got with Harry about what growing up as bi-racial was like, and the difficulties of trying to figure out her identity while being constantly labeled by society: https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/news/a26855/more-than-an-other/

Here's an article about how Markle was seen as black even by the royal family, and not just white like you're claiming: https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/dahleen-glanton/ct-glanton-meghan-markle-race-royals-20210309-tggn36w3brcupb2ptqvcxsnara-story.html



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"Do the majority of Brits really want the Royal Family to continue? "
i'd say 50/50

"Does the Royal Family help the average British citizen in any way? "
apparently yes.


I'm no royalist , and i can see why megan fled - the british gutter press are scum.
But this whole Oprah thing seems in pretty poort taste to me , even though i havent seen it and dont exactly know what was said

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1. 50/50
2. Unsure - charity work I guess. I hear Princess Anne is the nicest and most charitably active member.

3. Diana was ADORED and that had the knock on effect of casting the likes of Fergie in her shadow; same for Meghan I would guess. Diana was the heartbreak heroine, very quiet and shy, whereas subsequent high-profile female figures have been a little more confident and outspoken, which clashes with the ideals of the Murdoch media.

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1. 50/50
2. No
3. I don't think people think about them much unless something like this is happening.

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Honestly I was losing interest in Harry, Meghan, and everyone one else. I am happy they are content with their lives, but you can tell Meghan is bitter and hurt. I am hoping she is not making stuff up for revenge. As former butler Paul Burrell stated, "there is blood in the water, now the sharks will attack! ". I wonder if the firm informed the Queen and others about her request for mental health counseling. It is possible, they were uninformed. I think the Queen and other senior rivals will tread lightly due to her pregnancy, but after she gives birth, will deal with her lashing out in the interview.

Then again at 94, maybe she is damn tired of her family drama!

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1. Do the majority of Brits really want the Royal Family to continue? Yes, its’ much more than 50/50. There’s great support and respect for the Queen but less so for Charles.
2. Does the Royal Family help the average British citizen in any way? They are behind numerous Charites, The Prince's Trust has helped thousands of young Brits over the years.
3. How do the Brits look at controversial female figures like Sarah Ferguson, Princess Di, and Meghan Markle? Di and Meghan were universally loved to begin with, Fergie was always seen as a bit of a joke much like Prince Edward was. Diana is still loved and held in high regard for the charity work she did, Meghan is seen by some as a liar and a grifter who has had nothing like the paparazzi attention and crap written about her that Diana or Camilla had. After the death of Diana and also during her divorce, there was real hate for Camilla among sections of the public.

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Why are people still knocking Charles after all these years? I think he will make a decent king.

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I once heard that he intends to use a different regal name than Charles when he takes the throne. I wouldnt blame him, look what happened to Charles I!

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1. I disagree. It's well known that Charles was bullied in school for his big ears. His formerly unrequited love to Camila went unnoticed until it became a problem. That was his biggest transgression. He did what he thought was moving on. But the heart has its reasons that reason knows nothing of - Blaise Pascal and I think people are slowly beginning to forgive him. Obviously the Queen has so we just have to accept that. His treatment of Harry is frowned on however. Protocol is usually followed and he will become king.

Meghan is not seen as a liar by anyone. She was doing charity work long before she met Harry which attracted him. The media is seen as liars and sensationalists.

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Meghan and Harry are both seen as liars by many after their interview with Oprah Winfrey. So much of what they said has been disproven as lies.

Just take a look at the YouGov polls and see how lowly Charles, Harry and Meghan rank.

https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/royalty/all

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Sorry but spurious polls from random website do not represent the reality of how people think. Two glaring indications of this is where they ranked Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice. "Popularity" is a highly subjective term and does not represent a favourability rating. Someone can be highly popular but extremely disreputable for example. Do try and attempt to think for yourselves.

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Have you never heard of YouGov? British media always refer to YouGov polls when covering elections, it's hardly a random website, any Brit knows what YouGov is, they ask surveys and are used by the BBC, Sky, ITV, and the national papers, YouGov have been used to collect data for decades, referring to it as a random website is laughable.

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Again: "Popularity" is a highly subjective term and does not represent a favourability rating. Someone can be highly popular but extremely disreputable for example. Do try and attempt to think for yourselves.

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I suspect about 80% who answered your question are not British

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1. Yes of course
2. Yes many ways and the Queen usually sides with the people over other entities such as government and oil lobby. One example being climate change.
3. They once liked Sarah Ferguson but realized she was a menace and a bad influence on Diana who was loved dearly. As someone else who lived through her death it's almost like that was the one single point that changed the events of history that led the bliss we had then in the 90s to the horror we experience today. It almost seemed like when that happened the long post cold war party came to an abrupt end. I cannot explain why, it just seemed that way. I actually went to the scene coincidentally after the incident occurred and there were thousands of flowers placed on the spot. So she wasn't just loved by the British. My French friend who took me there told me there was a hump underneath the overpass that if you're going over a certain speed you're going to catch air say over 60mph. That's probably what happened in a horrific way.
Meghan Markle is well supported and the British people by and large are quite angry with the way the Royals have treated her. Harry is fully justified to remove her from the country for her safety and well being. Her philanthropic activity mirrors that of Harry's mother. So yes Markle is well loved. There's nothing opportunistic about her at all as the media likes to play into your minds. It was Harry who noticed her first. Las Vegas does advertise as a glitsy and exciting place to the British though even though Americans know it to be a pretty trashy place empty of any soul and it excites their (the British) inhibitions - but it's mostly based on false pretenses. Harry may have fallen victim to that marketing. Any time the media criticizes her proves to us all the rich rightist elite controls the media and like rightists all over the world they hate anyone who does good and hates any rags to riches story and resent anyone who started out from meager beginnings becoming highly successful.

Yes I am a passport holding brit.

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Who has never heard of YouGov. 😂🤣😂

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Silly pop culturalist. Shouldn't you be playing "Wonderwall"?

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👆 Cor, Blimey, it's a fake limey!

OP asked for Brits only, in the last decade us Brits have had mostly boring wall to wall coverage of the Scottish referendum, Brexit and THREE General elections.

If you were British you won’t have failed to have heard or read a YouGov poll of the aforementioned on TV, national newspapers, the radio or the internet, you could not escape it! Every man and his dog know YouGov.

I like Wonderwall, but right now I’m listening to Fake’88, it was a hit here in the UK, not that you’d know.

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Not fake at all. Living in another country but not fake. You have heard of dual citizens haven't you? Do you even have a passport?

"If you were British you won’t have failed to have heard..."

Would not have*

Terrible irony there.

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Yet never heard of YouGov? They have been around for decades.

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According to Archive.org Yougov has been around since 2001 and wasn't widely known about until since 2012 https://web.archive.org/web/20010715000000*/https://yougov.co.uk/

So yeah, I haven't been around since then. If the site worked then Boris Johnson wouldn't be PM. Brexit really pissed me the hell off and I have been distancing myself from being British since. It was driven by the same scumbags that helped elect Trump and propelled the Russians into the situation we are in today, Cambridge Analytica and Facebook. https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-cambridge-analytica-data-mining-and-trump-what-you-need-to-know/

Do you even have a passport Dick Van Dyke?

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Do you even have a passport Dick Van Dyke?

I have a passport and have lived and worked in UK all my life, which is why I responded to the OP.

I’m not a pretend pom, unlike certain posters.

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