BN is not Israel


Our media, or "someone's" media seems to rely on all these associations to people. Frame Netanyahu good or evil, or promote a constant argument about it - and it is all BS.

Every world leaders gets the same treatment, maybe so the US State Dept. can manipulate the media and keep them in line.

But Netanyahu is not Israel. There are better and worse leaders in Israel. It doesn't matter.

What matters more is the leaders of Hamas who deliberately planned for two years the attacks of Oct 7th KNOWING AND COUNTING ON IN ADVANCE that Israel would retaliate and kill Gaza civilians. This was built into their plan.

What talk about Netanyahu at all? He's doing the best he can.

The subject of the conversation all over the world should be to set exceptions that a lot of Gazan civilians are going to have to die because Hamas made it so, and to discuss if anyone in the world has any great ideas on how to sort out Hamas and kill them with minimal loss of civilian life.

There should be no argument here. Hamas deliberately planned and targeted civilian to kill them in the most horrible and evil ways. Israel needs to destroy Hamas and always tried to minimize civilian casualties - and they've never jumped out and down or bloody ecstasy when they had to do it.

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Hamas deliberately planned and targeted civilian to kill them in the most horrible and evil ways.
100% agree.
Israel needs to destroy Hamas
100% agree
[Israel] always tried to minimize civilian casualties
100% disagree. They always tried to maximize civilian casualties for the purpose of driving palestinians away.
and they've never jumped out and down or bloody ecstasy when they had to do it.
100% agree. They always kept civilian massacres under the carpet.

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You are accepting Palestinian propaganda.
Sure, they are cases where people who just want to get on with their lives
and families and are made to go serve in the IDF just lose it because of these
constant Palestinian murders, riots and violence.
Constant rocket attacks.
Separate out that from the large-scale IDF ops which do not aim at civilians
and it is not really a thing.
Palestinians are always creating a scene at the Al-Aqsa mosque which is
something Israel should just tear down, because it is built on the ancient
Jewish temple.
Radical Muslims do this all over the place. Go look up the Bamiyan Buddhas
in Afghanistan under the Taliban.

The difference in Western institutions and Islamic institutions are like night
and day.

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There is something called "The CNN strategy" i heard about it on some podcast, maybe micheal bet david, where he spoke to some exPLO terrorist, and what it is, is that hamas know that public sympathy and opinion is now more valuable than any weapon. so you plant missiles and arms near schools, hospitals, near residencial buildings or you even purposely kill your own people to "get on CNN" (or any platform) and have your cause heard and show crying kids recently orphaned or worse in gaza and that moves people.

I don't believe that Israel is purposely targetting civilians, but it's a war, these things happen. they have given them 10 days notice to get out of there and i even think that because they are getting worried about public opinion and backlash won't end up launching a boots on the ground type attack.

But what i do find utterly fascinating about all this is even people who support palestine seem to accept that these people are subhuman! why don't we hold the palestinians attacking israel up to same morality as we do the israelis?!

it's almost like we're admitting "well you know, it's the muslims, you can't expect any level of morality of them eh? but the israelis.. they should know better!"


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This guy really lays it out: https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/global-affairs/idf-confirms-visual-and-audio-proof-will-be-released-following-gaza-hospital-attack/video/2ecbd575276cea745c275ca90614fe22

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I'm convinced that it was an hamas rocket! but imagine if they had proof and it all came out!?

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Well, that's what he claims, that there's proof, and I believe him.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-denial-doubt-over-misfiring-rocket-claims-2022-08-11/

check this out from last year, it's happened before.

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Oh yeah! I don't know if you caught it in the video, but the Lt. Colonel said that over a recent 11 day period, hundreds had misfired.

Also, I think his sardonic comment "...if there are no pictures of beheaded babies, then it didn't happen", also really struck a chord.

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No, it's Hamas and other terrorist groups that jump up and down exclusively. From the son of a Hamas founder who is now a Christian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakxXN5Z-XI

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Well, holy shit, for once I agree with you.

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