18 months as the BLM Poster Boy, now will be forgotten - George Floyd Discussion

[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

"When will they learn to stop resisting arrest?" BINGO! THAT'S the action that almost always ends in tragedy. WHY is that question not being addressed? WHY are parents not teaching their kids not to resist arrest?? WHY is everyone IGNORING the fact that these incidents only happen when someone RESISTS ARREST??? I guess some of the population is just plain stupid because apparently they never, ever learn.

Having said this, of course, what the police did was totally unconscionable and they should be locked up for a very long time (hopefully life) but it never would have happened it Tyre didn't RESIST ARREST and lead them on a long foot and car chase!

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[–] Oblivioid (1482) 2 years ago

The police are not Judge Dredd. Maybe it's time for the police to comply with the law and comply with the citizens? I don't blame Tyre for trying to escape and save his own life. Self-preservation is natural.

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

Self preservation from an arrest? Most are home a couple of hours later depending on the charge! Had he complied, unless he was intoxicated, he probably would have just received a ticket. The police to comply with the law? Their JOB is to make arrests if necessary! How absolutely ridiculous you sound! How did "escape" work out for Tyre? SMDH

Edited to say: Had he complied, unless he was impaired OR had an outstanding warrant, he probably would have just received a ticket.

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[–] Galactus03 (4373) 2 years ago

You can't be this stupid. He had FIVE cops beating the living shit out of him. If he ran or not.... Once they had him in custody it should have ended there. But it didn't. They kept hitting him when he was barely able to fucking stand....THAT IS NOT GOOD POLICE WORK...no matter how you try to justify it. All 5 of those morons will get what they deserve. End of story.

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

He resisted them from the beginning. He RAN and led them on a foot chase and then a car chase. The video we're all seeing is AFTER the chase. We didn't see video from when he was first stopped, BEFORE he ran from them.

I never justified what they did! You might want to hone up on your reading comprehension because you're the one who looks stupid.

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[–] Galactus03 (4373) 2 years ago

Oh STFU. You most certainly justified it. Your implications where clear. The whole resisting arrest bullshit. He ran BIG FUCKING DEAL. There was no way that man deserved that beat down. That's what this is about. Not about the fact that he fucking was running from them. These cops ALL deserve jail time. End of story ..

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

OK, keep thinking like that and keep perpetuating the stupid and dangerous idea that it's OK to resist arrest. That's truly the biggest sign of insanity, to keep doing the same thing over and over and over and thinking you'll get a different result.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

So what if the people who invaded the Capitol in 2021 complied? Fewer deaths?

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[–] Lord Rake (4454) 2 years ago

You should not be giving anybody advice on this matter, your solution of trying to escape will lead to outcomes like this 7/10 times. If someone wants to survive a police encounter 10/10 times, be respectful even if the cops an ass and do what they tell you to do. The worst they can do is take you to jail where you will be processed and released if you did nothing wrong.

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[–] legnadibrom (6214) 2 years ago

why are the cops hassling him anyway?
they have no right, he'd never have to resist if they'd just mind their own business

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

This must be satire, right, you cannot be serious.

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[–] davebuffalo (3442) 2 years ago

Did you even read the story? Are you trolling? In the words of even bigger asshole John McEnroe, "You CANNOT BE SERIOUS!". He was high on drugs and driving the wrong way down the road.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 2 years ago

Tyre Nichols will soon be forgotten and George Floyd will continue his reign as Black Martyr Supreme because there is no evil White arch-villain for the news and rioters to pin their fury on in the Nichols case.

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[–] Sandman3 (1453) 2 years ago

whynotwriteme You hit the nail on the head. Derek Chauvin was white and those 5 cops were black. Had they all been white believe me major cities all across America would be up in flames and businesses looted.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 2 years ago

Yeah. If even ONE of these guys in the new case was white, this would be an inferno already.

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[–] Sandman3 (1453) 2 years ago

Brace yourself. They just fired a 6th cop. You guessed it. Hes white.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 2 years ago

Peaceful, yet fiery protests commencing in 3... 2... 1...

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[–] Sandman3 (1453) 2 years ago

If they had all been white you could leave out the word peaceful. A hell would be breaking out. Worse than George Floyd.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 2 years ago

I think it might have been a little bit less violent, actually. When the Floyd riots happened, Trump was President and the Leftist political agitators and news media drummed up a lot more violence and anger because they wanted to sabotage his Presidency. The Summer of Floyd was just as much about an anti-Trump rebellion as it was about Floyd.

They don't want to harm Biden's Presidency, so I think they would have kept the unrest toned down a bit now.

(My use of the word 'peaceful' was a reference to the CNN reporter standing in front of a burning neighborhood claiming the protests were "Peaceful, yet fiery".)

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[–] Sandman3 (1453) 2 years ago

Very good analysis!

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

When BLM and Antifa riot they are too stupid to realize that the people they are harming are disproportionately black. They are a scam and they don’t care about anyones civil rights.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 2 years ago

White Antifa communists are behind it all and they don't give a crap about black people. In fact, the worse off black people are, the better they like it, as it guarantees them votes in exchange for social service handouts.

The aim of all these riots is not to improve things for blacks. It's to destabilize and overthrow our current system and eventually replace it with a totalitarian Leftist regime.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

Exactly, and what’s disgusting is they are pretending to care about these people when they really couldn’t give a good fuck. It’s a scam and a distraction, these people are the worst kind of racists and the worst kind of narcissists

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[–] legnadibrom (6214) 2 years ago

actually, those 5 black cops were taking cues from their white co-workers, superiors, news videos, TV shows, film productions, every book stored in their public school libaries, conversations overheard in McDonald's lobbies, water cooler talk in the precinct, etc,
it IS all white people's fault because their racism permeates every facet of our existence on this little blue world & will continue to do so for a vary, very long time

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[–] davebuffalo (3442) 2 years ago

Wow. Just wow. It's people like you, and thoughts like this, that mean racism will never go away, because in your mind of fiction, it never goes away. You just see racism with every single action taken against a POC, and that's total BS.

I hate criminals. I hate losers who milk the welfare system and are too lazy to work. I hate drug-dealers. I don't give A.F.F what race or color they are. But if one of them is black, you just assume that I'm racist because I call them scum. Well guess what? I'm calling that white KKK loser a scum. Scum is scum, no matter the race. But you stand behind all black scum based on the color of their skin and that's just wrong. 98% of blacks voting for Obama was wrong. That's a whole lotta people judging "based on skin color alone"; the very definition of racism.

The NAACP bashing Republicans is wrong. As Rush Limbaugh said, they're not for "Colored People", they are only for "Liberal Colored People", the NAALCP.

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[–] BeaSouth (3282) 2 years ago

The world hangs in the balance from conversations at McDonalds.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

I have a feeling he’s being sarcastic, at least I hope he is. No one can possibly be that stupid.

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Some of the most ridiculous stuff I've ever heard. Thanks so much for the good laugh.

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[–] legnadibrom (6214) 2 years ago

i'm reporting you!!! for using too many smilies in a single post

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[–] Gd5150 (11747) 2 years ago

Oh cmon there must be a white mayor or white governor somewhere in the chain. There has to be a white Republican that can be blame. We all know desantis had something to do with it.

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[–] davebuffalo (3442) 2 years ago

I guarantee the libs are already climbing the chain to find some racist cracker at the top who ordered this "hit".

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

He will never be forgotten. Nor will the hundreds of others in the past and, with certainty, those in the future.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

If he hadn’t been black no one would have cared in the first place.

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

If he hadn’t been black, he’d be alive.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

Please provide evidence. If you can’t then you should apologize because you just made a disgusting accusation not to mention you’re just talking out of your anus.

Also if you look at the data you are more likely to be killed by cops if you are white. (Not that you care).

I’m also guessing you’ll apply the same standard to BLM who was literally caught shouting “shoot the white folk”

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

Apologize. To whom? You.

The last sentence is completely inaccurate. Look up Mapping Police Violence.

“US police have killed nearly 600 people in traffic stops since 2017, data shows. Deaths continue apace this year, with Black victims disproportionately harmed, amid calls to reduce traffic encounters.” The Guardian. April 21 2022. Sam T. Levin reporting on US Policing.

This is a movie chat discussion board. If you’re starting a discussion, shoot the …. Then let’s discuss Shoot The Piano Player by Truffaut. Did you like it?

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

“US police have killed nearly 600 people in traffic stops since 2017, data shows. Deaths continue apace this year, with Black victims disproportionately harmed, amid calls to reduce traffic encounters.” The Guardian. April 21 2022. Sam T. Levin reporting on US Policing.

Blacks resist arrest more than Whites. Believe me, when someone White resists arrest, it doesn't go well either.

Once someone resists arrest or flees an interview during a traffic stop, they're changing the whole scenario. They turn what could have been a relatively simple, albeit uncomfortable experience (no one likes getting stopped by the police), into a potential disaster and tragedy! Nothing good ever comes out of it!

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

Tyre Nichols was pulled over for alleged reckless driving which may be proven false. He did stop. He was pulled out of his car and tasered and pepper sprayed. He then ran. When officers caught up with Nichols, they beat him, punching and kicking him in the head and striking him on the back with a baton while he was restrained. He later died. It would have been a blessing if when he got the chance to run after being tasered and pepper sprayed, that he got away. Because after they caught up with him and restrained him, he was murdered.

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

"Indeed, the video footage that was released only started after police confronted him at an intersection. The initial traffic stop does not appear to have been filmed but it is not clear why."

There is no video of the initial traffic stop. The video that we're all seeing is after he gave chase and the officers had become infuriated over it.

I am not justifying in any way what these officers did, it was absolutely unconscionable! There is no question about that! What I am saying is that if Tyre had cooperated, the outcome might have been quite different. If you think about incidents over the past few years, most - not all but most - have occurred because someone resisting arrest or not complying with police directives. You never hear about the thousands and thousands of police interactions and arrests over the years that are uneventful - White or Black.

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

The officers each face charges of second-degree murder. They could serve 15-60 years if convicted. And sentencing could be more severe as they are adding aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping, official misconduct, and official oppression. The first video does shows the initial stop. Oh, and he called for his mother as he was beaten.

Although paramedics arrive minutes after officers disengage, Nichols appears to be left on the payment without assistance for 22 minutes before an ambulance comes. Two Memphis FD involved in patient care have temporarily been relieved of duty. It is unclear if those are the paramedics. Nichols was subjected to approximately 50 minutes of beating before police could be seen dragging and propping him up against a police cruiser at 8:38 before he slumped over on his side.

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

I know what the officers are charged with and I know what they did. That's not in question, it was absolutely horrible. The question is what occurred prior to that.

It's being reported that there is no video of the initial stop and I can't find it. Can you post a link to the video of the initial stop.

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

This is my last post on this. It is reprehensible to even think about.

Go to The NY Times or any news source.

NYTimes states: “What did the video footage of the episode show?
The images, taken from body camera and street camera footage, include the initial traffic stop. Police officers come up to Mr. Nichols’s car yelling with their guns raised, open his car door and pull him out of the vehicle. Mr. Nichols says that he ‘didn’t do anything.’”

“He drops to the ground, on his side, as officers surround him. He appears to offer no resistance, though he struggles as the officers hold down parts of his body and threaten him. He is pepper sprayed, and an officer fires a Taser at him as he gets up and runs.”

“The video images show that, eight minutes later, he has been pursued into a suburban neighborhood, where, close to Mr. Nichols’ own home, officers begin a severe beating. They are seen kicking Mr. Nichols in the head when he is on the ground, and pulling him back up as another officer uses an extendable baton to hit him several times.”

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

Well, it turns out you were right. I just found the video from the initial stop. I hadn't seen it before. While it doesn't show what he did to make them stop him, it did show them pulling him out of his car and he did comply. They should have just cuffed him and taken him in. He ran because even though he complied, they were brutalizing him. I did not know this before seeing this video and I'm more shocked and appalled than I was before. These five are a total disgrace to law enforcement and to everything decent.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

If he hadn’t been black no one would have cared in the first place.

So you do not have to back up your claims with evidence? Only other people making claims have to do so?

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

I do have evidence: White people are killed by cops at a disproportionate rate by the police more than black people are, yet no one ever says anything. Twice as many whites are killed by the cops every year, yet blacks outnumber whites in gangs 3:1, but I’m guessing your retort will be that it’s the fault of white people that so many black people are in gangs, right?

EDIT: Also nice deflection attempt, and also even if I couldn’t back up my premise it wouldn’t magically make his premise true.

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

But you didn’t back up your premise. It’s still your premise. You haven’t cited any documentation.

And I don’t really think you understand what you’ve said. You are saying. Cops kill a lot of white people. In itself, that’s appalling.

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

If these Whites are criminals no it's not appalling! They're criminals. What's appalling is to make a martyr out of a criminal whether Black or White! That's appalling!

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

You’re all over the place.

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

Actually I'm not. Just comply and don't resist arrest. Period.

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

He didn’t resist.

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[–] jcnyclv (1557) 2 years ago

IF, in fact that's true, it will come out in court. Four of the five officers have impeccable records. One of the officers had a charge brought against him a few years ago when he was a correction officer but it was dropped.

It doesn't make sense that they just saw Tyre and said to each other "let's stop him for no reason and severely beat him up." They stopped him for a reason. I guess we will all find out when they go to trial.

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[–] Galactus03 (4373) 2 years ago

It doesn't fucking matter how "impeccable" their records all. First they are not that veteran. Second they fucking beat a man to death. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE GUY RAN. It doesn't. A better cop would have apprehended him and put him in handcuffs.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Right here, year in and year out more white people are shot by cops. But of course you don’t care about them because they don’t suit your narrative you scumbag.

Now are you going to back up that he’d be alive had he been white or are you going to admit that you’re full of it.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

You claimed, "White people are killed by cops at a disproportionate rate by the police more than black people are". Your link show the number of deaths, not a ratio as you claimed above.

Statista also shows that there are 252 millions whites in the USA and 45 million blacks.

Even if your chart shows twice as many whites as black killed by police, there are more than 5 times as many whites in the USA, this means blacks are killed by the police at more than twice the rate as whites.

IN other words you are lying and think everyone else on this forum reading your stupid claims is an idiot.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

Yet blacks outnumber whites 3:1 in gangs so my point stands. If anyone is disproportionately victimized by the police it’s white people.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

Now I would like to see the evidence that if everything had been the same except Floyd’s skin color he’d still be alive, and if you can’t provide evidence at least have the decency to admit that you’re a liar.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

I have made no claims other than that you are lying and your statistics do not back what you claim.

Why should I be providing evidence for something I have no reason to believe is true?

Chauvin was a thug with a badge who killed someone. Why do you think he would have shown any mercy to anyone regardless of their skin color?

What did I lie about? I said there were a certain number of white people and black people in the USA. Why was that a lie?

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

https://nationalgangcenter.ojp.gov/survey-analysis/demographics

There you go, anyway you slice it blacks outnumber whites in gangs so it makes sense that they would have more encounters with the cops yet the cops shoot more white people. Damn, facts are a bitch sometimes aren’t they?

And don’t even bother saying that it’s society’s fault that blacks are disproportionately thugs and gangsters. It’s a thing called personal responsibility and making good choices and being a good citizen. At the end of the day you gotta quit making excuses, get off your ass and pull your weight just like everyone else has to.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

Okay, more blacks in gangs. How does this support your narrative that the police kill whites at a higher rate than blacks in the USA?

Why not just look up the number of whites killed by the police, and the number of whites in the USA. Then do the simple math to determine how many whites per 100,000 are killed by the police. Then do the same for blacks. Since white Americans outnumber black Americans by a factor of at least five, the police would have to kill five times as many whites to kill them at the same rate as blacks.

How is it that this very simple math is beyond your understanding?

It's your fault that you don't know basic math skills that kids are taught in grade school. The universe is going to own you soon if you don't put your thinking cap on.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

Blacks should have more interactions with the police than whites because they are disproportionally in gangs yet police kill twice as many whites. This is basic math you moron and I’m sorry the facts don’t back up your narrative. Whites outnumbering blacks in the population is irrelevant.

Now will you provide evidence or not that Floyd would be alive had he been white?

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

You originally claimed whites were killed by the police at a higher rate than blacks. This is why the population of blacks and whites is relevant.

Why should I provide any evidence about Floyd?

I have not made any claims as to whether or not Floyd would be alive if he had been white. You are the one making the claim, it is your job to provide the evidence.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

They are killed at a higher rate. Blacks should be having 3 times the amount of police interactions than whites yet twice as many whites are killed. So are you admitting that there is no justification in saying he’d be a live had he been white?

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

How did you calculate the rate at which "they" are killed?

What exactly do you mean when you say "disproportionate rate"?

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

It’s right there in the statistics, according to the data if police shootings were proportional to gang memberships then blacks would outnumber whites in police shootings 3:1, but instead it’s the other way around. The system isn’t rigged against anyone but if it was rigged against anyone it would be white people.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

I'm tired of providing numbers to prove you wrong. Since you're the one making the original claim, perhaps you can provide the numbers and show me how you calculated the ratios?

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

I’ve explained it repeatedly and now you’re just going in circles. I’ll just tell you the same thing I’ve been telling you. Are you going to admit there is no evidence that George Floyd would still be alive had he been white?

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

Why should I admit to something I have not been discussing with you?

Four dirty cops in MN killed a man who was handcuffed and on the ground.

Perhaps if you explained why race made a difference, or did not, then we could discuss it. But right now it is a one way conversation with you demanding answers from me, for some reason.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

Show me the evidence that race played any factor or admit that yo don’t have any evidence. Whatever you do quit tap dancing around the issue like a chickenshit.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

You have nothing but another unsupported claim. Show us a link that says "White people are killed by cops at a disproportionate rate by the police more than black people are".

My retort is that you are refusing to support your claims. It's not deflection when I'm only asking you to bring evidence to the forum that you should have supplied without anyone asking.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

I did support my claim, you just don’t like it because it contradicts the narrative you want. You’re a race hustler and a virtue signaler and it’s disgusting.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

You claimed that blacks were killed at a higher rate than whites by the police. But your link only had numbers killed by race, not compared to the individual populations by race. If you're going to claim that a certain group of people is killed at a higher rate, then simply providing whole numbers instead of ratios does nothing to support your argument.

Some people here might be stupid enough to believe your claim, but I'm not one of them.

My narrative is that Moviechatuser497 should tell the truth. Your claims and links contradict any truth telling.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

I am telling the truth, according to the data 3 times as many blacks should be killed by the police than whites, yet twice as many whites are killed than blacks. If anyone is disproportionately victimized by the cops it’s whites (I’m not saying they are however)

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

Tell me if this makes any sense. There are about 240,000,000 whites in the USA and about 45,000,000 black people.

Your Statistia link shows 374 whites and 220 blacks killed by the police in 2022. While the police kill more whites than blacks over all, this is not the same as the RATE at which the police kill. Up above when you claimed disproportionate deaths, this means you were talking about a death rate.

if you divide the number of deaths by the population then multiple by 100,000, you get the following death rates.

Whites (374/240,000,000)*100,000 = .16 deaths per 100,000.
Blacks (220/45,000,000)*100,000 = .49 deaths per 100,000.

Now do you understand the difference between deaths and death rates?

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

The population doesn’t matter, blacks out number whites in gangs 3:1, they should therefore be having 3 times the amount of police interactions because they are disproportionately breaking the law, yet whites are killed twice as much.

You’re arguing a non sequitur

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

What did you mean by "disproportionate rate" as applied to deaths? Which proportions are you measuring?

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

I’ve explained this repeatedly, blacks are in gangs 3x as much as whites are, yet whites are killed by police 2x as much as blacks. If anyone is being victimized by the cops it’s whites (that’s not what I’m saying though, there is no trend that any ethnic group is victimized by the cops).

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

374 is not twice as much as 220; where are you getting your numbers from and exactly what are those numbers?

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

I was ballparking, other years it was closer to twice as much, regardless whites still outnumber blacks in police shootings despite the fact that blacks are the ones disproportionately breaking the law.

Now are you going to concede that there is no evidence that George Floyd would still be alive had he been white?

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

You don't have to ballpark when you can hover your cursor over the graph and it shows you numbers. Where are you getting your numbers from and exactly what are those numbers?

You keep asking me to concede something I'm not even discussing with you.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

Whether it’s 2x as many or 1.5x as many is irrelevant, whites still outnumber blacks.

So if you don’t have the courage to admit that there’s no evidence that race played any sort of factor in his death then I have nothing left to say to you.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

You claimed "white people are killed by cops at a disproportionate rate by the police more than black people are".

I want to see the numbers you used for this proportion.

For example, if 374 out of 220,000,000 whites were killed and 220 out of 220 blacks were killed, would you still claim that whites were killed at a greater ratio than blacks?

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

I showed you the numbers: Blacks outnumber whites almost 3:1 in terms of gang membership. Therefore police encounters with blacks should be 3 times than that of whites, yet that isn’t the case, whites are killed almost twice as much as blacks are by the police yet their involvement in gangs is significantly lower.

Are you going to answer my question or not? I have entertained your talking point long enough now. You’re going in circles. You can keep asking the same question over and over again and you’re only going to get the same response.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 2 years ago

WRONG. If he hadn't resisted arrest, he'd be alive.
Even if a blonde-haired, blue- eyed Swede ran away and fought back against the cops, he would probably die. The big difference is, there would be very little news coverage and ZERO public outcry.

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

Sir or Madam: He didn’t resist.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 2 years ago

Running away is resisting arrest.

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[–] Galactus03 (4373) 2 years ago

Dude. Most people who run away from cops don't get shot or beat shitless orvto death after being caught. Doesn't matter what color they are. Unless they have a weapon and are threatening to kill said cops. What fucking planet are you on right now???

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[–] davebuffalo (3442) 2 years ago

If he hadn’t been black, he’d be alive..

PROOF?

It makes for a cute talking point, but total fiction, total BS, and the reason race relations will never be remedied in this country, because any ill that happens to a black person is assumed by your type to be AUTOMATIC RACISM.

In jail because of racist cops, racist jury and racist judge
Homeless because of a racist landlord
Jobless because all employers are racist
Dropped out of school because teachers are racist
Getting a welfare check because.... God Bless America!

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[–] Letess (129) 2 years ago

I have no proof of what could have been if what happened didn’t happen.

Let’s just say I doubt very much that 5 black cops would pull a white guy out of his car swearing at him, pushing him to the ground, pepper spraying, tasering him. And then proceed to beat him for 50 minutes. One with a baton. All about his head and body. Then leave his body on the pavement for 22 minutes without MFD assisting while waiting for the ambulance. This is still the south. This is Memphis. There were no drugs in the car. He lived nearby. I think the city would be enraged and the good ole boys would be up in arms. And they’d have a right to be. Knowing that, I don’t think these guys would have done this to someone white. But it’s my opinion.

Unless there’s something we don’t know, these guys are going to jail for a very long time. I would imagine 25-30 years.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

I think Floyd's life was forfeit as soon as Chauvin decided to take him out of the police vehicle and kneel on his back until they could find no pulse then kneel on him for two more minutes.

Philando Castile was not resisting arrest when he was killed by the police. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Philando_Castile

Neither was Daniel Shaver. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

Why should resisting arrest be such a big issue? The police are not supposed to beat or choke a person to death even if they do resist arrest. Especially after they are handcuffed and laying on the ground.

In the case of Trye Nichols, the police restrained him then used him as a punching bag until he was fatally beaten.

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[–] davebuffalo (3442) 2 years ago

The police are not supposed to beat or choke a person to death even if they do resist arrest.

True statement, but in 95% of these cases, had the perp simply NOT resisted arrest, they would be home the next day watching Jeopardy, instead of in the morgue.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

That is a very naive statement. The police typically detain people they arrest for a while, especially those who resist arrest.

Exactly which cases are you referring to? If you have an exact figure of 95%, then you must have done rather detailed research and come up with facts and figures to show us.

Since you have not shown us anything, I think you just made up that number and think people here will believe anything.

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[–] davebuffalo (3442) 2 years ago

It's pretty easy to get out on bail, so maybe most might spend 1-3 days in the county lock-up, awaiting trial.

https://saggilawfirm.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-a-bail-hearing/#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20set%20federal,seventy%2Dtwo%20hours%20after%20booking.

No I don't have data on the 95%, just an educated guess.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

It is only easy to get out on bail if you have the resources.

Sounds more like a wild ass guess unless you can show me the links you educated yourself with.

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[–] davebuffalo (3442) 2 years ago

Totally Guilty of WAGging the 95%, but until you can show me data proving me wrong, I'm sticking with it.

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[–] Ranb (9595) 2 years ago

Nope. You made the claim, you support it. Why is it that lazy people like you make up totally insane claims, then expect others to prove them wrong?

Why would you stick with something you have no reason to believe is true?

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[–] davebuffalo (3442) 2 years ago

In the words of my dear mother, "because I said so", LOL.

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[–] SamNoyoun (5828) 2 years ago

ABOLISH THE POLICE!

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

I’m going to laugh when someone robs your house and then burns you to death and there’s no one to call to come save your sorry ass.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 2 years ago

If police were ever abolished, I can easily imagine militia groups forming and launching preemptive strikes against the neighborhoods of groups known for their propensity to commit crime.

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[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 2 years ago

If they ever learn to stop resisting arrest, there will be no more tragic deaths. In every fatal case, resisting arrest is the cause of a person getting killed. Out in the field is NOT the place to debate being arrested. That's what courts and lawyers are for. They also need to learn that drugs are bad, very bad.

But I fear they never will learn.

🤨

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

Yep George Floyd has served his purpose to the DemoKKKrats now he’s going to be tossed aside just like every other black life that is lost to gang violence in Chicago every week.

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[–] alexjohans0n (2094) 2 years ago

Why do you think black men have the highest rate of

Diabetes
Stroke
Cancer
gun violence deaths
Mental Illness
Prison population

of all groups in America ?

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