would people stop celebrating this rapist already?
wtf? i can't believe this especially in this feminist movement going on now. if women knew he raped that girl they wouldn't be supporting him or looking up to him.
sharewtf? i can't believe this especially in this feminist movement going on now. if women knew he raped that girl they wouldn't be supporting him or looking up to him.
shareTHE TROLL IS STRONG IN THIS ONE.
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Not everyone that posts a different opinion from you is a troll and the thread starter was not wrong. You just don't like hearing that your heroes don't walk on water.
You should get help for your rabid fandom. You defend the millionaires, they don't give a shit about you. Seems like a waste of time. What do you get out of it?
A DIFFERENT OPINION WOULD BE FINE...BLATANT TROLLING DEVOID OF ANY INTELLIGENCE OR ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE...THATS NOT AN OPINION.
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I THINK ITS YOUR CLEVER MIND THAT MAKES YOU SO CUTE...SO QUICK WITTED.
shareAll those losers that brought mementos to the Staples Center and stood their crying after Bryant died, Kowalski is one of them. Meanwhile, he probably ignores his own family. Rabid fandom is real and is a sickness.
shareLMAO...YOU REALLY ARE CLUELESS,HUH
shareThis clown is in a general discussion thread about how poorly women are treated on this site yet on this board, he defends a potential rapist and shames their victim. The trolling is strong and hard but gotta get that daily posting quota in, I guess. 4000 posts in 6 months? Hopefully you find work soon.
shareYOU DONT KNOW ME OR ANYTHING ABOUT ME....CONTROL YOUR ANIMAL INSTINCTS.
share"This clown is in a general discussion thread about how poorly women are treated on this site yet on this board, he defends a potential rapist and shames their victim. "
That's a ridiculous double standard.
4000 posts in 6 months.... holy shit, this nut job is even whackier than i thought !!
shareIt's getting ridiculous.
shareThis is all about being PC. Mr. Bryant wasn't of a disfavored demographic so he gets a pass for raping that woman and gets anointed sainthood when he died prematurely. It is what it is.
shareRAPE IS A CRIME...NO CHARGES,NO CRIME...AND THE "VICTIM" IS THE ONE WHO REFUSED TO TESTIFY AND PURSUE CHARGES..SHE INSTEAD ACCEPTED A CHECK AND VANISHED.
shareBefore doing a little research on this subject I leaned toward believing KB was guilty but after the research I lean the other way. Sure, I wonder if Kobe actually did it but I'm fairly certain that I'll never know. So I move on.
I thought I moved on 2 weeks ago but this stuff keeps popping up.
RiP to all who died in the crash.
i'm just saying they should talk about him raping that girl as well as everything else he did. it should be on his permanent record.
shareNOT RAPE...TALK ABOUT HIS SCANDAL,HIS AFFAIR,HIS CHEATING...RAPE IS NOT VALID OR FACTUAL...
shareNot allowed. Saint Kobe didn't rape her. She wanted it. That's the story the rabid fans and PC media will tell you. It's really weird that he had to pay her $2 million to go away if he did nothing wrong.
shareONCE MORE, RAPE IS A CRIMINAL CHARGE...NO CHARGES WERE BROUGHT...RAPE IS THE WRONG WORD RIGHT OFF THE TOP.FORCING YOUR POINT BY USING INCORRECT WORDS IS EXTREMEMLY JUVENILE.
shareSo weinstein did the same?..... there were no charges against him for 20 years, how can he be found guilty now, just because of the words of women?
shareAS IN THE D.A. SAID LETS PURSUE THIS CASE,AND THE "VICTIM" SAID NO THANK YOU,ID RATHER NOT TESTIFY...ILL JUST PURSUE THE MATTER IN CIVIL COURT FOR A CHECK.
shareexactly. it's so weird how everyone considers him a basketball and sports god. he wasn't even one of the 5 best players of his generation. also he was an arrogant jerk on the court who was also the biggest ball hog ever. also it's weird how the world stopped for all these current players when he died and "we have to give him so many honors and tributes" when i don't remember the nba every doing anything like that for wilt chamberlain who was one of the 5 best basketball players of all time.
shareLMAO...NOW I FEEL BAD...I WASNT AWARE OF YOUR "CONDITION"....YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY CHAMP.
sharecuz wilt didn't die so suddenly yes he is a top 5 player
shareare you freaking crazy? kobe isn't even in the top 25 of all time. my point is why did they do so much tribute rule things in the nba immediately after he died? they didn't do anything when wilt died and wilt was one of the top 5 players of all time. naming the nba all star game mvp with his name is ludicrous. people should be honored 20 years after they die, not right away. i'm sure jerry west didn't get the logo right after he retired. i'm sure it was at least 10 years after he retired that he got that.
shareIt's embarrassing at this point but it says a lot about the disease that is rabid fandom. People with no lives paying tribute to millionaires who wouldn't bat an eye if they died. I want to know what these super fans get for all their loyalty.
shareDisease? what are you talking about? it doesn't matter if the celebrity would bat their eyes over our deaths or not. It's not about that.
When you've been a fan of someone for a long time regardless of if it's a sports star, a movie actor, or a musician to name a few. Of course you're going to be sad when you find out that they died. We may not have known the person personally, but they were still a part of our life as a choice through watching them do what they did that interested us to want to fans of them in the first place. through all the conversations you've had with people over the years about that person. All of these memories of watching, listening and discussing that person face to face as well as in online places like this website for example makes that celebrity a part of our lives.
If you can't get that then that's on you to remain ignorant about it.
he didnt rape her
shareYou were in the hotel and can verify this? Another rabid fan that blindly defends Saint Kobe but doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what went on. Only 2 people know and you aren't one of them. Make that one person knows, the other one is dead.
shareSO WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING RAPE?...YOU ALSO WERENT THERE AND DONT KNOW.
shareWhy don't you get a life? Not 1 minute after someone posts you come running to your hero's defense. Do you have a life off this site?
Don't talk to me. I'm not interested in dealing with sick, rabid fans. He could spit in your face and you'd beg for more.
I didn't say he did it, I said it was weird that he paid her to go away if Saint Kobe did nothing. Meanwhile, you rush to his defense at anyone that suggests he might have done something. You don't know anything and the 1 person who does, isn't talking, she's enjoying the money he paid to her to go away.
I think it's time to ignore all caps guy. No use trying to have discussions with mentally challenged rabid sports fanatics.
LMAO..YOURE FUNNY.
shareI have no opinion one way or the other whether Kobe is guilty or not but you have zero idea about the legal system if you think settling out of court is an admission of guilt. If you are a super rich person and happen to be innocent and your lawyers are telling you, there´s a small % chance you could go to prison for a crime you didn´t commit, if it goes to trial. You would 100% use your wealth to make it go away.
shareWealthy, powerful defendants are rarely convicted, even when they are guilty.
Female victims are rarely believed.
I started ignoring that trolling fuckhead a while ago. He starts shit, and then when I totally owned his ass he went crying to an administrator.
shareThe sad part is that he has a family that needs him. They lost a father and sister in one day. Two of his girls are babies that won't even remember him. How do you even tell a three-year-old that Daddy is never coming home? 😭
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He had troll Jimmy Kimmel speaking at his memorial. What an embarrassment. I'm suppose to take a troll like Kimmel seriously when he fake cries?
shareIt's sports.
You could cure cancer and if you put your hand on some girl's shoulder twenty years ago they would ruin your career. But, if you hate fuck some crazy women in your hotel room, all is forgiven because you're a noble ball player.
It's super stupid.
the point is, if he didn't rape her then why did she sue him? i thought the story was she just wanted to be able to brag about having sex with him? why would she go from that to trying to get his money? i find that really hard to believe. the time when bush sr. put his hand on that girl's ass was creepy though.
shareHe probably "semi-raped" her since she was likely a crazy person.
Anyway, I hate the reverence people have for sports figures, it's crazy. They don't do anything important at all.
they worshiped him and still do. do you know they actually had his memorial service on nba tv yesterday??? that's so wrong and inappropriate. memorial services are for families only. too bad his family is too stupid to know this. that's pathetic.
shareI mean, who cares about the guy beyond it's sad that he died.
It's not like he was some kind of inventor of basketball or developed a new way to dribble, lol. He was a guy on a team in a sport.
He never actually DID anything.
well and the thing that kills me most is the coverage on tv. all the players, former and current talk glowingly and about him like he was a family member. it's too much coverage. the worst though was then they actually renamed the all star game mvp after him. that's not right. jerry west who was a lot better than kobe got the nba logo made after his body but they did that at least 10 years after he retired. yes, it's tragic he died when he did but he doesn't deserve all these accolades and honors when he wasn't even the best player of his era. he's maybe in the top 50 of all time. whereas jerry west was in the top 20 of all time.
shareREGARDLESS OF YOUR OTHER SHIT...YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT TO ALL THINGS NBA.
shareAll sports talk is bullshit.
Sports are random meaningless events. The plays are always "heroes" and people act like they did great things. It's just bullshit said by idiots.
They aren't going to say anything negative about any player.
I someones watch the 6PM news sports section in Philly for laughs. The hyped up announcer will ask local coaches how the game will go, and they always say stuff like "We're gonna throw some balls, we're gonna hit some balls, we're gonna go for bases" and meaningless shit like that because no one knows what's going to happen. Of course you're going to throw balls---idiot!!! Then the announcer is again hyped and---your heard it here!! The legendary coach Whatever is motivated!!
I don't know how people like this nonsense.
Also, most players are scumbags. Michael Vic....they're all ghetto dudes raping people, fucking endless women, etc.
exactly, sex hungry, depraved, degrading women, sexist, taking advantage of girls, raping girls, beating their girlfriends guys.
shareThe Michael Vic thing was disgusting.
Only in sports could you be a convicted gangster, horrible animal abuser, but then get---but out on that gridiron he's a saint! Or some such bullshit.
I worked in a prison near Philly and there were dudes for dog fighting that had GIANT sentences for ONE COUNT and this dude gets nothing and then steps right back into sports. He was running a racket!
Anyway, most are scum, stupid, etc.
This dude died because he so needed to get somewhere mundane that he flew in super thick fog. It's part of the stupidity.
now that's funny. thank you, i needed that after all this hero worship on here about him. i've never hated anyone more or as much in the whole time i've been watching sports except tom brady. he deserves to be made fun of and ridiculed. these scumbag athletes are despicable, the thing that really gets me mad is how they always get off the hook when they beat their girlfriend, everytime they either pay them off or win in court. so, ezekiel elliot is the worst.
the only time a person actually got in trouble was because there was video, ray rice, but he was never charged by the government, and his stupid girlfriend supporting him and never left him, talk about stupid. i have no respect and no compassion or sympathy for a girl who stays with or goes back to a guy who hit them, even if they have a child or baby with them.
oh, and lamar odom is one of these guys too. he got coked out of his mind, where he almost died while he was in a whorehouse. he was in a coma and almost died.
khloe kardashian who is even more pathetic and no class than a black woman goes back to tristan thompson after he cheated on her right in front of a camera for everyone to see. she makes me sick. she's in a way worse than tristan because how can you take a guy back who cheats on you?
Most of this is about money.
There's women who fly to the mideast so some rich Arab can take a crap on them. It's the same thing.
Legally, I don't get it. I have been to court many times for work and judges will go light on a person if they work and are a productive citizen. I guess since average people see these idiots as "heroes" judges see them as ultra productive citizens and the get off of everything.
the thing that gets me mad is how they have to have a completely new trial is one of the jurors is found out to be a felon, even if it's just being behind on your child support. wtf? what does that have to do with their ability to be a juror?
the other thing i hate is why are a sentencing does the person have the ability to lower it to half? why make a sentence if it can be changed? also why did harvey weistein only get 5 years after he raped those girls?
I have never been picked to be on a jury because my career is in psych and I have worked in prisons. I'm actually a very logical and objective person and would never allow myself to be biased. However, it sounds like I would be biased due to my background.
Have a felony, etc means you may have criminal thinking. So, you will side with the criminals. Meanwhile, I know a horde of criminals and for whatever bizarre reason, they are the first to call the cops on someone and want max punishment, lol.
Sentences are meant to be just, meaning to serve justice. I have no record and really hate crime. However, under the right conditions, I might punch someone in the face. I would be wrong to give me a standard sentence. It would ruin my life. Also, I would punch someone for doing something threatening. That would be illegal but a mitigating circumstance. That word means something that reduced the intent to do wrong. Aggravating circumstance means I intended to do wrong.
So, a guy is saying shit to my girlfriend and I smack him, that's mitigating circumstance. I don't have a history of crime and he was in her face. I don't have the right to hit him, but a normal person might. That's mitigating stuff.
If I'm in the supermarket and an old lady cuts in front of me, and I hit her, that's aggravating. I should know better than to hit an old lady. She did something rude, not threatening. I should also know that I could severely injure her, but I didn't care.
Whatever the case, since I have no record and have a long history of being a public servant, I shouldn't get much of a sentence. It was a weird situation and being too hard on me will ruin my life. It's not just to ruin a life for an unusual crime.
As an example, I have a loved one that got into an accident while mildly intoxicated. She injured her back, started not being able to sleep, started hallucinating from lack of sleep, bought drugs to kill the pain, then got in a car, got confused and hit a car causing...
minor damage.
She panicked an left.
Leaving the scene is a year sentence.
I testified to her state of mind because I saw it all. She is likely to get probation. She didn't mean for that stuff to happen.