Trump’s much-vaunted success with younger voters seems to have stalled - poll - Donald Trump Discussion

[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 7 days ago

Noooo this is going to tank his election campaign noooooo

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 7 days ago

It won't do the Repubs any favours in the mid terms any good if it continues, that's for sure. And he has only just started.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 7 days ago

That's if it's accurate and not just another load of YouGov bunk! And I think we all know the answer to that.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 7 days ago

It's a made up poll? Or just one you choose not to believe?

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 7 days ago

LOL I bet you said the exact same things about the Selzer Iowa poll too didn't you!

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 7 days ago

The Selzer Iowa poll was a prediction not a reportage. Is there any reason to discount this current poll other than you don't like the results?

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 7 days ago

Is that why Harris lost Iowa because you didn't like the poll hard enough? 😂 You unbeliever! Unclean, be castout!
Many reportage polls have been way off. Is there any reason to believe this current poll other than you like the results?

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 7 days ago

Is that why Harris lost Iowa because you didn't like the poll hard enough?

No because fewer people voted Dems. What I liked, or didn't, was irrelevant.

Is there any reason to believe this current poll other than you like the results?

Perhaps because YouGov's polling results have been found to be notably more accurate than those of other online pollsters relying on nonprobability sampling instead of random sampling. In fact the New York Times has attributed YouGov's performance to its curation of its respondent panel and a sophisticated sampling process from that panel. This does not make it necessarily right of course, just less likely to be inaccurate.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 7 days ago

Perhaps because YouGov's polling results have been found to be notably more accurate than those of other online pollsters relying on nonprobability sampling instead of random sampling.

Source?

In fact the New York Times has attributed YouGov's performance to its curation of its respondent panel and a sophisticated sampling process from that panel. This does not make it necessarily right of course, just less likely to be inaccurate.

Is there any reason why the NYT should be trusted particularly?

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 7 days ago

Source?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/27/upshot/online-polls-election.html

Also in February 2024, FiveThirtyEight ranked YouGov as fourth out of more than 300 pollsters in its ratings, based on analysis of 624 YouGov polls

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

but, keep going with this; you are do well so far. lol

Is there any reason why the NYT should be trusted particularly?

https://adfontesmedia.com/new-york-times-bias-and-reliability/

I am not saying any poll or media source is always reliable. But I don't think there are many regular issues with the two I mentioned, although any source with which people disagree is likely to be accused of bias for that very reason. At the very least the poll on Trump is a revealing straw in the wind.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 7 days ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/27/upshot/online-polls-election.html

Is there any reason why the NYT should be trusted particularly?

Also in February 2024, FiveThirtyEight ranked YouGov as fourth out of more than 300 pollsters in its ratings, based on analysis of 624 YouGov polls

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

Is there any reason why the FiveThirtyEight should be trusted particularly?

but, keep going with this; you are do well so far. lol

Thanks for your permission to not immediately believe strangers on the internet that's very magnanimous of you.
Yes it's been a very good beginning few weeks, MAGA are very happy and are indeed doing well so far, well spotted. What makes it even better is the losing left doubling down on their losing tactics lol

https://adfontesmedia.com/new-york-times-bias-and-reliability/

Is there any reason why adfontesmedia should be trusted particularly?

I am not saying any poll or media source is always reliable. But I don't think there are many regular issues with the two I mentioned, although any source with which people disagree is likely to be accused of bias for that very reason. At the very least the poll on Trump is a revealing straw in the wind.

I don't take any notice of any MSM predictions or polls especially to do with Trump as they have historically been way off the mark.

https://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2016/10/18/presidential-forecast-updates/newsletter.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/us/elections/iowa-selzer-poll-trump-harris.html

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 7 days ago

> Is there any reason why the FiveThirtyEight should be trusted particularly?
Is there any reason why the NYT should be trusted particularly?

You asked me sources for the reliability of YouGov and I gave two, while accepting that no poll or media source is always reliable. That is all I can do. I could give you pedigrees for the NYT and FiveThirtyEight then your same question could probably be repeated, and so on ad infinitum. Endless doubt is endlessly corrosive. But allow me the same privilege. Is there any alternate source relevant to this poll you think should be trusted more particularly?

I don't take any notice of any MSM predictions or polls especially to do with Trump as they have historically been way off the mark.

This is certainly true. But that does not mean every poll about him can be ignored as definitely wrong.

MAGA are very happy and are indeed doing well so far, well spotted.

Well, perhaps not all MAGA lol eg:

https://x.com/trump_regrets?lang=en-GB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yww2X4_Wek

https://www.rawstory.com/dem-senator-regrets-voting-for-trump-nominee-who-s-supporting-insane-plans-for-gaza/

https://www.buzzfeed.com/sarathompson1/donald-trump-voters-regrets-flipped

It is best to not immediately believe strangers on the internet, that right?

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 7 days ago

You asked me sources for the reliability of YouGov and I gave two, while accepting that no poll or media source is always reliable.

And then I asked for sources for the reliability of the sources you provided.

That is all I can do. Is there any alternate source relevant to this poll you think should be trusted more particularly?

I think if you are posting something as some kind of evidence of something it should be down to you to prove the validity. Can you?

Well, perhaps not all MAGA lol

Perhaps not any MAGA lol

eg:
https://x.com/trump_regrets?lang=en-GB

Source that those people are MAGA?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yww2X4_Wek

Source that those people are MAGA?

https://www.rawstory.com/dem-senator-regrets-voting-for-trump-nominee-who-s-supporting-insane-plans-for-gaza/

I really don't care what Dem senators regret

https://www.buzzfeed.com/sarathompson1/donald-trump-voters-regrets-flipped

Buzzfeed lol, sources:
-Anonymous, 26, Iowa
-Anonymous, 49, Maryland
-Anonymous, 40, Georgia
-Anonymous, 44, South Carolina
-Anonymous, 42, Tennessee
-Anonymous, N/A, United States
-Anonymous, 32, Pennsylvania
-Anonymous, 37, Texas
-Anonymous, 66, Florida
-Anonymous, 81, Massachusetts
-Anonymous, 66, California
-Anonymous, 24, Arkansas
-Anonymous, 38, South Carolina
-Anonymous, 22, Iowa
-Anonymous, 58, Georgia

Bless your cotton socks lol

Well, I don't know about anyone else but I'm convinced with this very high standard! 😂

It is best to not immediately believe strangers on the internet, that right?

What are you asking me to believe? Be specific.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

And then I asked for sources for the reliability of the sources you provided.

And, noting the potentially endless nature of your doubt. I asked you if there any alternate source, relevant to this poll, you think should be trusted more particularly.

I think if you are posting something as some kind of evidence of something it should be down to you to prove the validity.

Speaking for myself, I found the quality and amount of the data for the two sources I referenced sufficient enough to prove their conclusions as reasonable. The explanation of 538's methodology for instance was impressive. There is no reason to assume either mistook or misrepresented data. It is your privilege to think otherwise and doubt everything, naturally; but I have seen nothing to suggest that is warranted.

Source that those people are MAGA?

Are you implying that disillusioned MAGAs are not possible, or all those I linked to, then, and more below are bad actors? It would seem unlikely.

I really don't care what Dem senators regret

I am sorry you don't care.

Fair enough about the use pf anonymous comments. But, as I am sure you remember Buzzfeed was not my only source. There are plenty of others apart from the others I gave - for instance:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/today-regret-maga-diehards-learn-163525234.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_C4809ArAU
https://www.newsweek.com/womans-neighbors-fly-maga-flags-years-suddenly-disappeared-2026407
https://x.com/trump_regrets?lang=en-GB

The plain fact is that MAGREGRET exists as one might expect from such a disruptive and unpredictable president, and will most likely increase.

What are you asking me to believe? Be specific.

I am not asking anything of you. Especially since you 'don't take any notice of any MSM predictions or polls especially to do with Trump' anyway .. right?

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 6 days ago

And, noting the potentially endless nature of your doubt. I asked you if there any alternate source, relevant to this poll, you think should be trusted more particularly.

I don't provide sources for my political opposition to dismiss anymore.

Speaking for myself, I found the quality and amount of the data for the two sources I referenced sufficient enough to prove their conclusions as reasonable. The explanation of 538's methodology for instance was impressive. There is no reason to assume either mistook or misrepresented data. It is your privilege to think otherwise and doubt everything, naturally; but I have seen nothing to suggest that is warranted.

Good for you but I have seen nothing to suggest any of your sources have any legitimacy that warrants further inspection.

Are you implying that disillusioned MAGAs are not possible, or all those I linked to, then, and more below are bad actors? It would seem unlikely.

No I'm asking for the people who are claiming these people are regretful MAGA to substantiate their claim.
Trust me bro
No I don't trust you.

I am sorry you don't care.

Why would I care in the context of supposed MAGA regret what a Dem senator regrets?

Fair enough about the use pf anonymous comments. But, as I am sure you remember Buzzfeed was not my only source. There are plenty of others apart from the others I gave - for instance:

your links

Source that those people are MAGA?

The plain fact is that MAGREGRET exists as one might expect from such a disruptive and unpredictable president, and will most likely increase.

Sure the concept exists as a narrative that you are trying to push unsuccessfully, without evidence.
The regret very rarely comes from the winners, it's usually the losers who have regrets lol

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

I don't provide sources for my political opposition to dismiss anymore.

In which case from now on it is only fair and in the interests of balance, if you do not ask the same of me. So I won't be offering any..

I have seen nothing to suggest any of your sources have any legitimacy that warrants further inspection.

Thank you for your opinion. But as noted last time, since you 'don't take any notice of any MSM predictions or polls especially to do with Trump' anyway, it is irrelevant, either way.

No I'm asking for the people who are claiming these people are regretful MAGA to substantiate their claim.

I am not sure what substantiation would satisfy you - but again, since I am no longer offering proving links or sources following your example, you are asking in vain.

'trust me bro' No I don't trust you.

Unfortunately a straw man.

Why would I care in the context of supposed MAGA regret what a Dem senator regrets?

Van Hollen said that he regrets voting to confirm former Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) as secretary of state, and such is just one representative of a range of regrets from a range of people. You have seen the many others.

Source that those people are MAGA?

Sorry, I don't do that any more. So that would appear to be the end of it.

Sure the concept exists as a narrative that you are trying to push unsuccessfully, without evidence.

You have your opinion and are welcome to it. Others will see a poll done by a reputable company with pedigrees supplied by me on request, as well as several testimonials from different sources of MAGRETTERS. Since you admit that you are not suggesting that disillusioned MAGAs are not possible, or that all those I linked to are bad actors, then we can assume matters closed. Have a good day.

The regret very rarely comes from the winners, it's usually the losers who have regrets lol

Indeed. As we saw from the Repubs over the supposed 'stolen election'.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 6 days ago

So we are at an impasse where you are and the left are left making lots of unsubstantiated far fetched claims again. That's nearly as good as winning the presidency, popular vote, house, senate, and having a SCOTUS majority I suppose. Have fun trying to convince people that MAGA aren't enjoying Trump sledgehammering the deep state I guess!

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

where you are and the left are left making lots of unsubstantiated far fetched claims

No, it is more that I quote a poll from authoritative polling company for which I prove pedigree on demand. Or quote a number of disillusioned MAGA supporters when you accept may not be bad actors, and that it is perfectly possible they mean what they say.

That's nearly as good as winning the presidency, popular vote, house, senate, and having a SCOTUS majority

Tides go out as well as in, my friend.

Have fun trying to convince people that MAGA aren't enjoying Trump sledgehammering the deep state I guess!

When I attempt that, please feel free to raise the matter again. Until then it is irrelevant to this thread. Have a nice day.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 6 days ago

lol cute

Noooo damn that Trump doing everything he campaigned on doing, I totally regret him winning now nooooo 😭😭😭

Some people think Marvel movies are real too.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

Some people think Marvel movies are real too.

If this is a serious claim, it's a good job you don't do sources LOL

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 6 days ago

If this is a serious claim, it's a good job you don't do sources LOL

Are you implying that delusional people who live a fantasy in their head and believe what the tv shows them are not possible? It would seem unlikely.
And given the low quality of your supposed "sources" I'd hold back on that laughter for now my DKE emboldened commierade.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

I think the number of those who do would be statistically negligible and certainly not comparable to those who have strong MAGAGRET. And I have yet to hear of anyone. Since you don't do sources, your claim remains necessarily unproven anyway.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 6 days ago

Aw bless you look at you desperately trying to force that, do you think Peter Parker has MAGAGRET too? LOL

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

I don't know; it seems to exercise you more than it ever would interest me. An essential diversion for you it would seem, but boring for me. So cheerio and have a good day..

And my poll stands.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 5 days ago

I see plenty of MAGAGRET being displayed by people like you and Ranb daily, you sure seem to regret that MAGA is now in charge what with all the whiny far fetched posts you all make lol

And ofc your poll is as legitimate as Biden was POTUS

:)

Do you think The Flash has MAGAGRET?

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 5 days ago

I see plenty of MAGAGRET being displayed by people like you

I can't speak for whoever that other person is, but for myself not being in the US, it is less regret than it is schadenfreude , shading into entertainment value.

seem to regret that MAGA is now in charge

Tides go out as well as coming in my friend.

Do you think The Flash has MAGAGRET?

The second time you imply that superheros maybe real people. I worry about you.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) 5 days ago

Nooo Trump stop doing everything you said you would noooo, I have such regrets now noooo 😭😭😭

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 5 days ago

Sorry about the infantilism syndrome, hope it clears up soon. Have a good day.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) a day ago

I'm just so full of regret right now you don't understand!

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) a day ago

Sorry to hear that. Go and insult someone, that will cheer you up.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) a day ago

Ok. You're fucking stupid.

Wow you're right I do feel better after that lol

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) a day ago

Told you. It is just the anger management you have to work on now.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) a day ago

Anger is as legitimate an emotion as any other, don't stifle me

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) a day ago

You got right ahead; don't let me put you off. I have found that, amongst the right especially, it is quite common here along with rudeness, when things don't go as expected.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) a day ago

You'll probably find that as you're a dirty communist enemy the right on this site treat you with the contempt you warrant and deserve, whether we expected Trump to win or not. I'm very sorry you're all now facing the consequences of your disgusting behavior for the last decade, how awful for you.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) a day ago

Thank you for your opinions, and the QED. Have a nice day.

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) a day ago

Have a shit day, I hope everything goes wrong for you and you suffer 😊

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) a day ago

I didn't know you were a Christian, too..

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) a day ago

Aww how safe edgy of you, take that Christians! Now do Judaism and Islam, coward.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) a day ago

Circumcision is the genital mutilation of children for ritual purposes without the possibility of consent. Muslims need to explain the concept of 'martydom operations' as a moral action. Glad to help, Xian. But that's all the time I can spend on you. I have a communist backyard sale to organise lol

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) a day ago

Know that we're going to crush every aspect of your gay ideology until it's fubar and people are ashamed to be connected to it. You're over. You're now seething in the rear view mirror as America enters it's Golden Era.

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[–] Melton (5530) 5 days ago

This thread is pure gold.

Flimflam’s desperate attempt to make ‘MAGAGRET’ happen… when he can’t even spell it properly 🤣

Also, the idea that MAGA, who cannot believe how amazing Trump has been in his first few weeks - he has exceeded everyone’s wildest expectations - would be experiencing ‘regret’ is just priceless 🤣

This low IQ dildo swans around regurgitating the regime’s latest approved opinions and talking points like he’s some intellectual to be reckoned with. He has absolutely no idea what’s going on 😂

Thank you 🙏🏻

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[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (1585) a day ago

It's been kinda hilarious I admit! 😂

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[–] MarkPh (1019) 6 days ago

The difference between election results and polls before and after isn't what you think it is.
The people who vote for either party rarely change their opinion, in the overall population it's roughly 50/50 and the amount of people switching their vote to the other party in the next election is next to zero, even though the media always manages to find the few who did.
Even people who said they were favorable to Trump and now say they aren't anymore, in the next election they will again vote Republican no matter who the Republican candidate will be, because in their mindset Democrats are so bad that the worst of all Republicans is still better than the best of all Democrats.

What changes from one election to the next is how many Democratic voters stay home on election day and do not vote.
After Trumps first term Democratic voters went to vote in huge numbers, giving Biden the win, last year they couldn't be bothered because a huge number of Democratic voters found Bidens war mongering in Israel and Ukraine that Harris said she would keep going too bad to vote for.
Doesn't mean they would have voted for Trump, but means they didn't vote at all.

It's a long known statistical fact that chances for Democrats to win an election stand and fall with how many Democratic voters actually do vote.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

The people who vote for either party rarely change their opinion, in the overall population it's roughly 50/50 and the amount of people switching their vote to the other party in the next election is next to zero,

If this claim is statistically true than power would rarely shift from one party to another. Whereas that is not true. I will accept though that in the US at least, outcomes have recently been decided by a relatively small group of voters in just a few states.

Even people who said they were favorable to Trump and now say they aren't anymore, in the next election they will again vote Republican no matter who the Republican candidate will be, because in their mindset Democrats are so bad that the worst of all Republicans is still better than the best of all Democrats.

Even if we say the same might apply to some die-hard Democrat voters and their view of Republicans, this view seems very partisan and does not recognise floating voters.

What changes from one election to the next is how many Democratic voters stay home on election day and do not vote. It's a long known statistical fact that chances for Democrats to win an election stand and fall with how many Democratic voters actually do vote.

Well yes, and the same applies to Republicans. Duh. So? (The voter turn out in nearly every state was over 60%)
https://election.lab.ufl.edu/2024-general-election-turnout/

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[–] MarkPh (1019) 6 days ago

You don't realize there's a difference between "voter turnout" over all and "most Rebublican voters went to vote while a huge load of Democratic voters didn't vote"?
The result is somewhere over 60% either way, isn't it?

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

Exacerbating Democrats’ vote share losses among key groups was a decline in turnout among those formerly their most fervent supporters. Yes, but also

"More than anything else, President-elect Donald Trump appears to have won the 2024 presidential election because of a uniform swing against the Democratic Party."

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-swings/

QED

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[–] MarkPh (1019) 6 days ago

Am I talking against walls?
Looking at the total voter turnout you cannot conclude that Democratic voters must have voted for Republicans.

Let me make 2 scenarios

1) The same amount of voters of both parties went to vote, 5% of Democratic voters switched and voted for Republicans.
Result, Republicans get 10% more votes relative to Democrats.

2) 5% more of Republican voters went to vote, 5% less of Democratic voters went to vote and everybody voted what they have always voted for.
Result, Republicans get 10% more votes relative to Democrats.

Without separate statistics of voter turnout among Republicans and Democrats you cannot tell which of the above 2 is correct, because voter turnout is identical in both scenarios.
You can split voters into whatever groups you like, Hispanics separate from others or whatever, for the above 2 examples it doesn't make a difference.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

Looking at the total voter turnout you cannot conclude that Democratic voters must have voted for Republicans. Without separate statistics of voter turnout among Republicans and Democrats you cannot tell which of the above 2 is correct.

Likewise one cannot conclude that Democratic abstentions had the same effect either. Are you really saying that no democrats voters switched to Trump? How can you tell? Is it likely?

".. tabulated results indicated a meaningful swing toward Republicans in almost every part of the country geographically, and across most demographic groups... There was a ‘red wave’ of sorts, even if it was no tsunami... Trump overperformed among constituencies not previously within his tent. Where previously his strength was concentrated among white voters, especially those without college degrees, this time he expanded his reach deeper into other ethnic groups. Most strikingly, he won a majority of Hispanic men, though that was just the most impressive example of a wider trend. He also reaped big gains in support further down the age-curve than he had managed before, with young men in particular providing a new column of support. Combined with running up the score even higher than before in rural strongholds, these significant bites into previously Democratic-leaning demographics gave Trump a big boost toward an overall majority of the national electorate.. .As young women move left, and simultaneously young men shift right, even at higher educational levels, the parties will have choices to make about how far to lean into this polarization with their messaging, or whether to seek greater balance in their appeal."

https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/2024/the-2024-us-election-what-happened

Who do I believe: some anonymous guy who thinks voter abstention explains result or professionals? That's all from me, thank you for playing.

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[–] MarkPh (1019) 6 days ago

There's no doubt there were a few Democratic voters who switched to Republicans and it's just as certain there were a few Republican voters who switched to Democrats, but that has never been the deciding factor, nowhere throughout the entire western world ever.
Deciding factor has always been how many Democratic voters stayed home and didn't vote, where this time around there was the additional factor that Republican voters turned out in spcifically high numbers to try and even out the huge lead Harris seemed to have in all the polls before the elections.

https://theweek.com/politics/democratic-voters-turnout-presidential-election-2024-trump-independents-liberal-messaging

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

There's no doubt there were a few Democratic voters who switched to Republicans and it's just as certain there were a few Republican voters who switched to Democrats, but that has never been the deciding factor, nowhere throughout the entire western world ever.

Never heard of tactical voting or a significant proportion of floating voters then, I guess. In the UK for instance the number of undecided before the last election was put at 16%. with around 85% of this undecided group planning to vote at the next election.

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/the-state-of-public-opinion-undecided-voters/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/28/floating-voters-decide-election-week-to-go-what-we-think

In the US estimates suggest that there were around 10 million voters who shifted from voting for one major party in 2012 to the other in 2016, which accounted for roughly 7 percent of all votes cast. Admittedly not the most up to date but enough to make the point. Here is account of surveys offer additional evidence about a critical part of the 2016 equation: the millions of voters who switched from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. The UVA Center for Politics/Public Opinion Strategies poll found that 14.6% of Trump backers reported supporting Obama in 2012. And so on.

https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/just-how-many-obama-2012-trump-2016-voters-were-there/#_edn2

Analysis of swing voting in 2024 can be found here "In May, before Biden exited the race, Data for Progress identified approximately 14% of likely voters as swing voters. Today, Data for Progress’ swing voter sample accounts for only about 8% of the voting population." still enough to decide things, especially in marginals.

https://www.dataforprogress.org/insights/2024/8/22/harris-can-win-swing-voters-by-emphasizing-populist-economic-policies-and-protecting-freedoms

Glad to help. That's all from me and have a good day.

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[–] MarkPh (1019) 6 days ago

You want a battle of weblinks supporting our points?
How about this one, where they in fact did look at Democratic and Republican voter turnout separately.

https://cardinalnews.org/2024/11/11/the-key-election-statistic-many-democrats-simply-didnt-vote/

Generally, Republican localities saw turnout drop by 2 to 5 percentage points. However, Democratic localities saw much bigger drops, with some of the biggest and most reliable Democratic cities falling by 10 percentage points or more.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 6 days ago

It took you two hours to find one local website that supports you? LOL

Thanks again.

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[–] Hailstorm (236) 6 days ago

of course... the dumb motherfucker attacked the allies of the US on day one.
Everyone with a brain can see that is not the way to go.

now his beloved "tariffs" will make sure everyone in America will suffer.... mostly the young folks with less money.

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[–] Pete314 (3322) 6 days ago

The woke and pedophile shitheads in Europe are not really "allies". They are more useful idiots.

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[–] Hailstorm (236) 3 days ago

The US imports more from other countries than it exports.

US voters are the useful idiots.
have fun with your rising prices, on everything!

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[–] Pete314 (3322) 3 days ago

Are prices on the decrease in Europe at the moment because of your fantastic politicians? If not, shut the eff up!

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[–] Hailstorm (236) 2 days ago

they are not going up.

eat some eggs... or rather, loan more money to buy them LOL

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[–] Pete314 (3322) 2 days ago

"they are not going up" - Liar.

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[–] JoWilli (21559) 5 days ago

oof, your TDS is getting worse...

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 5 days ago

Leave my Tenancy Deposit Scheme out of it...

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[–] KBiker (1233) 5 days ago

Other than the MAGAs, his approval rating among all demographics will continue to drop as people realize he's a lying grifter, and he keeps few of his promises.

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[–] tvfan (14522) 5 days ago

His approval ratings are actually higher than his first term. So far, he has been keeping his promises with only 3 weeks in office.

How many promises did Biden keep after 4 years in office? ... Zer0.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 5 days ago

His approval ratings are actually higher than his first term.

Where did you get this from? I thought you didn't believe what the MSM tell you? Or supporter's propaganda? Or fact checkers?

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[–] tvfan (14522) 4 days ago

Winning the electoral vote, the popular vote, the house, the senate and the mandate. He didn't accomplish all that in his first term.

Oh, and I also live here in the USA, where everyone I know is saying the same about their support for him during this term vs his first term.

BTW, polls have demonstrated that they can be "unreliable", especially those that are supported/endorsed by 538 which has a history of being wrong.

Even a good poll can give a false sense of security.

And your poll didn't include enough surveyees to make a reliable inference.

Your poll is also endorsed by "The New York Times" which is a left leaning source; that says much about the bias reliability of your UK poll.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 4 days ago

Winning the electoral vote, the popular vote, the house, the senate and the mandate. He didn't accomplish all that in his first term

This is certainly true. But that does not mean he enjoys the same level of support now, not with all those MAGretters about. (I am not saying that he is not still popular)

everyone I know is saying the same about their support for him during this term vs his first term.

If only I could believe you had a wide and varied circle of friends...

polls have demonstrated that they can be "unreliable", even a good poll can give a false sense of security.

Indeed. In which case those polls which say he enjoys substantial support with no drop off from the election can be questioned.

is a left leaning source; that says much about the bias reliability of the poll

An observation which can equally be made of right-leaning polls.

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[–] tvfan (14522) 4 days ago

not with all those MAGretters about

Too bad there’s no evidence that they are actual MAGA.

In which case those polls which say he enjoys substantial support with no drop off from the election can be questioned.

And yet, he won with more votes than any other president.

An observation which can equally be made of right-leaning polls.

And yet, they have a history of being more accurate than left wing polls.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 4 days ago

Too bad there’s no evidence that they are actual MAGA.

Too bad there is no evidence you are likely ever to accept. Everything would be lying, a forgery or faked. And you still haven't told me why MAGret can be considered always impossible.

, he won with more votes than any other president.

Which fact checker told you that then? Or what source?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_candidates_by_number_of_votes_received

You are prone to dismiss Wiki I know (except when you use it, uncredited of course) so feel free to offer more of your unsourced facts instead

And yet, they have a history of being more accurate than left wing polls.

All that I will say in connection with this is that in elections, left wing parties' results tend to be over estimated , and vice versa. But in regards to your latest insight, the same question as above: your source or fact checker used for this claim? I shan't hold my breath lol

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[–] tvfan (14522) 3 days ago

And I stand corrected; Trump has the highest votes of any president in history.

Biden received an extra 15-million fake/illegal ballots from the harvested mail ballots from the scamdemic they implemented to rig the election.

Oh, and Kamala ended with 66-million votes when the polls closed on election night, those extra 9-million illegal/fake ballots were from days and weeks after the election was over.

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[–] filmflaneur (2978) 3 days ago

And I stand corrected

You do, thank you for admitting it.

Biden received an extra 15-million fake/illegal ballots from the harvested mail ballots from the scamdemic they implemented to rig the election.

Oh, and Kamala ended with 66-million votes when the polls closed on election night, those extra 9-million illegal/fake ballots were from days and weeks after the election was over.

Which sources/fan checkers told you that? Oh, sorry forgot...

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[–] KBiker (1233) 4 days ago

His approval ratings are actually higher than his first term.

And this means what? His approval ratings were dismal in his first term, as time went by. That's why he was booted out in 2020. And BTW, I got my info from the so-called failing NYTimes.

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[–] tvfan (14522) 4 days ago

15 million fake ballots confirms that 2020 was rigged.

I got my info from the so-called failing NYTimes.

That explains a lot.

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[–] KBiker (1233) 3 days ago

There were no fake ballots. That's been proven seven ways from Sunday. Take a look at this:
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/flawed-calculation-behind-false-claim-of-fraudulent-votes/