They see this "successful" billionaire businessman, with lots of money, a picture perfect family, an attractive wife, numerous homes all over the world, and buildings with his name emblazoned in gold at the very top.
shareAs a Trump supporter, I think his appeal is multi-faceted. Some of it is ideological (belief in fewer regulations, lower taxes, strong military, etc.), and some of it is emotional (people believe Trump legitimately cares for America and Americans). However, some is also due to the entertainment value. Yes, Trump offers an experience that is vastly more entertaining than what others can provide. He's direct, he's politically incorrect, he's brutal, he's gracious, and he's downright funny.
Put all three of these layers together and you get Trump's appeal.
Good god, if you think that dude is all those things, you REALLY don't know shit about him. :-P
shareAnd neither do you apparently other than what the liberal MSM brainwashes you with.. This man has ran his Business Empire for over 45 Years in NYC long before your sorry liberal ass was even born and was highly respected by both sides until he decided to run as a Republican and they turned on him!!
shareI didn't respect him... He was a rich dummy, making people beg for a job on national television... And then he was president. Think about how pathetic that is. He couldn't have been LESS qualified for the job... And TBH he still isn't. He's still paying people to make all "his decisions" for him. He's literally a paid puppet for the mega rich. And the working class fell for his "everyman" BS hook line and sinker. Disgusting.
sharePart of why I support him is because of how irrational and angry he seems to make people like this, I enjoy the schadenfreude of their anger and their not being able to understand simple things so they resort to denigrating the majority of the population lol, yes The_Rev, 70million+ people should've just listened to your whining instead shouldn't they. Maybe you don't know as much as you think you do and you're a puppet for the media after falling for their "Trump is a meanie" BS hook line and sinker. Pathetic.
shareI think what's pathetic is your excusing everything he's said and done in the past, and everything he's GOING TO DO in the next four years. "He's Jesus, so whatever he does is good..." That's exactly how Hitler got millions of people to follow him into the Holocaust. And while we probably won't sink to the level of putting whomever Trump considers "deplorable" into ovens and gassing them... I don't think we'll be that far off in Trumpworld part 2...
Keep telling yourself everything he stands for (which if you haven't figured it out by now, is clearly white supremacy) is good, and you'll be on track to eventually be thrown in the proverbial gas chamber with all the rest of his followers.
Hindsight is 20/20.... You will regret standing behind him again eventually.
Miyagi is right.
The best part of Trump winning is seeing you unhinged dullards lose your collective shit and double down on the lies about Trump.
He already won.
He cannot get reelected again.
Let it go. Stop with the BS already.
You should be rooting for him to do a good job since, you know, you live in the US. And by all means, call out any actual wrongdoings on his part. That is part of being an American.
The lies and childish temper tantrums are pathetic, counterproductive, and sophomoric.
I haven't approved of any president in my lifetime, but I still want them to do well in office.
Completely daffy contemptuous finks, the lot of ya!
God almighty! Are you serious?
You are actually saying, in print, online, in public, that you expect President Trump will eventually send people to gas chambers!
Truly, the excesses of some Americans never fails to astonish me. And I've been coming to forums like this one for many years.
Fascism is a slippery slope... I suspect you haven't spent much time in a history book, have you? ;-)
Going from Trump to Hitler, ideologically and politically... It's really not as long a walk as you think.
You may "suspect" whatever you want. I suspect you have spent rather too much time in "history books", particularly those slanted towards confirming your prejudices.
Or perhaps you've watched too many movies?
Are you even a Trump supporter? If not, how in the world would you know what his appeal is? If we wanted to know why some people *didn't* like Trump, then a person who actually didn't like him would be a good source of information, don't you think? Also, please refrain from using God's name in vain.
shareNo, no I am not. I know what his appeal is because I understand the psychology of mass manipulation. And it is because I don't fall for his manipulation that I am in a better position to judge his intentions. They're not good. Not for you, not for me, not for the 99%... But it's your life... Follow him all the way to the bitter end if you want... But some day, you will regret it. Even if it's 20 yrs from now, looking back at who you were when you posted this garbage.
My hands are clean in all of this, because I have not supported him since day one. So when this is all over, and you find yourself asking "what have I done?" I will just sit in the background, laughing. ;-)
It's hard to even respond since I offered a three-tiered explanation for his popularity, and you failed to explain why you think this is wrong. Go ahead and state why you think my explanation for Trump's appeal is wrong and then we can talk.
Also, based on your reply here, you're interested in trying to explain Trump's "intentions". However, that's not the topic here, which is *why people like him*.
I'm a little man, he's a great man! I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas.
shareThe man's enlarged my mind, he's a poet warrior in the classic sense!
shareYes and I worry about this sometimes...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1ZRB4vaQc
shareMost people instinctively know the establishment (both democrats and republicans) don't give a damn about them. They also know the establishment (republicans included) don't want Trump.
So they want Trump, that I think is pretty much it.
I must say that's a bit hard to credit, fc31. Are you saying that Republican politicians don't want a Republican who can win government for them twice, against appalling odds and in spite of active warlike resistance?
I hardly think so.
No, they don't. If you paid attention, they put out a lot of Trump clones in the primary, identical policies, identical rhetoric, all to see if Trump can be replaced.
Even in this election campaign from what I understand quite a lot republican politicians actually endorsed Harris, that is not something we see that often.
I think it is because Trump is hard to control.
Republican leader Mitch McConnell, basically the face of republican establishment, represents a lot of republican politicians just like him, supported the Ukraine war, and against withdrawing from Afghanistan. That is definitely not agreeing with Trump.
How do you think Biden funded Ukraine war? I don't think it could be done without republican support.
Even during his last presidency Fox news was not kind to him, especially on things republicans do not agree with Trump, always talking about "adults in the room". What does that even mean?
I don't even think the Russian gate was a purely a democrat initiative, I think they worked together on that one, to tell Trump that he needed their (republican establishment) protection.
I think they let Trump to be the candidate because without Trump republicans will lose the election, not just presidential, but also senate and congress, even the future of the country is less significant comparing to that.
And maybe Trump promised to play ball this time.
"If you paid attention"
Enough said.
That is OK. Majority of people don't pay that much attention to these things, because it does not impact their lives that much. Even they did, majority would lose interests after a while because whoever they voted for did not seem to make that much of difference.
I think that is why a lot of people let the media doing the thinking for them, at least on topics of politics and foreign relations.
I pick up on those things because I am retired, really not that much to do.
It's the policies. That's why Kamala lost. That's also the beauty part -- she and folks like The View don't get it, so they'll make the same mistakes again.
They told us the majority of the women were going to break for Kamala, but it turns out that more women get milk and eggs for their families than they get abortions. Common sense should have told Kamala's campaign manager that, but the elites don't have to worry about feeding their families or choosing between car payments and school clothes for the kids. They just don't get it
I just kept asking how you Kamalafans were stretching your food dollars in the Biden-Harris economy, and the answers were a little spotty. But it was the kitchen table issues that made the difference. And, as a pundit said today, if you asked the average person on the street what Kamala's message was, they'd likely say, "Trump is bad and Kamala's for abortion." Those were the two points she hammered home. Asked how she was going to make life better for people in this tough economy, she'd say, "I come from a middle-class family...." Then she'd pivot to "Trump is bad and women's healthcare," code for abortion. Trump didn't win because we all wanted to sit on gold toilets.
Trump won because despite that, he related to people who were losing jobs, struggling to make ends meet. Kamala avoided answers and said Trump is bad and she was for abortion, which wasn't a message that most people related to. Not when they were struggling to pay the rent, utilities, gasoline and food costs.
Sooo are you gonna be on here bemoaning the people complaining that they can't afford rising prices under Trump? Because it's coming. Just like it did during his first term...
"That was the pandemic" you say... Maybe had we done some better preparations ahead of time, it wouldn't have hit so hard. Maybe if the world had taken a real threat seriously, it wouldn't have hit so hard.
Maybe if Trump had taken it seriously, and not left the states high and dry when it first surfaced in the states, SO MANY people wouldn't have died.
But that's okay. It spared you, and that's all that really matters, right? ;-)
Trump is an individualist. That means he looks out for #1 first, and everyone else can go get f*cked. Rest assured, Trump follower or not, you're f*cked. It amazes me that people don't see this... But again, I sit on the sidelines watching half of America be hypnotized by his Hitlerian rhetoric, and you're over there soaking it all in, like Trump's reality is the only reality worth seeing.
It's going to hurt one day, when you realize you were played. If you're honest with yourself... But given his followers' fierce embracing of a false reality... That day of self-reflection sadly may never come.
There's going to be some carry over from all that Biden has done. He sneaked in a few more billion to Ukraine just recently. That's money they're going to have to print, and which will, therefore, cause more inflation.
Yeah, Trump has a spending problem. We're hoping Elon can tie him to a chair and explain basic economics to him. But it's not as though Biden understood it, Harris understood it, or Obama understood it, either. At least he's not going to be pouring trillions down the rathole of endless wars.
The Pandemic wasn't around until Trump's LAST term. And if he'd not listened to Fauci -- he basically let Fauci take over the US -- almost no people would have had to have died. Fauci went for the clotshot instead of the single most effective drug, ivermectin. Meanwhile the doctors in the first few pages of RFK, Jr.'s book, The Real Anthony Fauci, were prescribing IVM as it is taken by human being around the world -- as pills. That's where my husband and I got ours. If we hadn't, we'd have been statistics, too.
"Trump's reality...." Cute. Harris tried to win by telling us that our reality wasn't real. We'd go to the store, see outrageous prices, and we were told that it's all good and Harris wouldn't have done anything differently. Whenever she was asked how she'd help the people who were struggling, that KJP was telling reporters they weren't struggling, Harris would just start in with her tired refrain, "I come from a middle-class family." No one was asking, "Where do you come from?" They were asking, "How are you going to help the American people?" Harris wouldn't answer. Harris lost because her reality wasn't our reality.
We know what a Trump presidency looks like. We know what a "I wouldn't do anything differently" from Biden presidency looks like. People chose the one that looked like before the Pandemic. Cope harder.
The illusion of "Conservatives" being true to their name was abandoned long ago my friend... When was the last conservative President who actually SPENT conservatively? The last PRESIDENT to spend conservatively was Bill Clinton. Literally 25 years ago. Only time in our lives that a president didn't operate under a massive deficit. Sooo.... a LIBERAL was the last president to spend conservatively...
Think about that for a while.
You'll be happy to know that I voted for Bill Clinton.
He also tried to tell his wife to abandon the Obama coalition of voters for the traditional Democrat base of middle-class workers. She ignored him, and so has the Democrat Party since. Democrats have rightfully paid the price, but they do not seem to have learned the lesson. I got to hear that the women who voted for Trump were poorly educated, and the Dems are just stunned that black men and Hispanics would vote for Trump. Obama famously chewed out a group of black men, calling them misogynistic. Again with the name-calling and identity politics! And surprise! It didn't work!
Meanwhile the Republicans are more closely identified with the values of the working class, while the Dems are identified with gay and trans rights, abortion, identity politics and division.
Also, it was hilarious to me that the women were supposed to all vote for Harris because abortion. In Harris's reality, more women get abortions than they get eggs and milk from the store. 🙄
The Dems thought harping on race, DEI, transgender rights, having adult-themed books in grade school classrooms, and opening up the border was going to make points with minorities. These same minorities were having their jobs taken from them by illegals, particularly if they were working in the building trades. The illegals who'd work for less allowed the builders/contractors to make a larger profit. The rich got richer, and the real middle class were getting shafted. No matter the race or color, people want to keep their jobs. Dems were stunned that Hispanics in this country wanted the border closed. Yes -- because they, like everyone else, didn't want their jobs taken, their taxes raised, the schools swamped, or the country bankrupted trying to take care of the extra people.
Then the Dems tell us that we have to have illegals to come in -- 'cuz there's no such thing as Green Cards -- to pick our crops and scrub our toilets. Um...that we need to import people to be our slaves isn't the winning argument the Dems think it is.
Maybe we can turn around that stupid electric car mandate. Only Dems wanted that.
There are so many reasons Trump won. I'm frankly surprised it was as close as it was.
The EV mandate will disolve.
It is literally impossible for a litany of reasons. One of the biggest is the amount on mined resources it will require. That one problem alone is insurmountable. We have nowhere near enough mines and it takes decades to start a new mine. It amazes me just how full of shit salesmen, politicians, and activists are. I knew they were shady liars, but this is a mind bending level of bullshit that will have abhorrent effects on society and the environment.
There is a special place in hell for the demonic frauds.
The EV mandate can will be kicked down the road until the SHTF. Whoever is unlucky enough to be in office then will get to deal with the mess.
The following video breaks down a lot of the issues very well.
"Electric Vehicles: Arthur Berman, Pedro Prieto, & Simon Michaux | Reality Roundtable #1"
https://youtu.be/5stPFdegJpg
Once the feathers hit the fan, the least of our worries will be electric everything...with a grid that won't keep up with it.
shareThis is what one person on Facebook had to say for why they voted for Trump:
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/34962014-magat-explains-why-she-voted-for-trump
I have a lot of friends who voted for Kamala and are very upset with the election results. With love, I offer you my perspective of what’s happened. I was as upset 4 years ago. I was equally worried about the future of our country, which I love so much. And here is my understanding of why Kamala lost. First of all, this has absolutely nothing to do with her gender or the color of her skin. This is about the direction in which the Democratic party has been trying to steer our country. The thing is, a lot of us, Americans, are not ok with it.share
We want to secure our borders for the very same reason you lock the house you live in. You don’t want people entering at will. We don’t want drag queens reading stories to our children. We don’t like our sons to be told that “the future is female,” implying they have a limited place in it. We don’t want our daughters to share bathrooms and locker rooms with men. We don’t want men competing against women in sports. We don’t want to see “tuck friendly” swim suits for toddlers (!!!???) in Target. We don't want our children to be confused because of all this "pronouns" craze.
A lot of us believe in God and don’t like to be perceived as archaic and uneducated for it. We value the concept of a family very highly and really would like to preserve family values as we know them. The modern ideas of “polyamory,” using abortion as contraception, gender fluidity, and the likes are foreign to us, and we reject them.
We like the idea of capitalism and don’t want to get punished with higher taxes for working harder, trying to get ahead for our families. We want social programs to orient people towards becoming financially stable, instead of comfortable with life-long subsidies.