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Trump redirected FEMA funds for migrants

posted 2 months ago by Ranb (9595)
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Trump has claimed the Biden administration is depleting FEMA funding to use on immigrants. This is not true, unless you're talking about Trump doing so. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-of-migrants/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-admin-pulling-millions-fema-disaster-relief-send-southern-border-n1046691

The Trump administration is pulling $271 million in funding from the Department of Homeland Security, including the Federal Emergency Management Agency's Disaster Relief Fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum-seekers who have been forced to wait in Mexico, according to department officials and a letter sent to the agency by a California congresswoman.

To fund temporary locations for court hearings for asylum-seekers along the southern border, ICE would gain $155 million, all from FEMA’s Disaster Relief Fund, according to the letter from Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard, D-Calif., which was seen by NBC News.

The allocations were sent to Congress as a notification rather than a request, because the administration believes it has the authority to repurpose these funds after Congress did not pass more funding for ICE detention beds as part of an emergency funding bill for the southwest border in June.

[–] yatzo376 (7717) 2 months ago

MAGAS don't care, they only listen to him

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

Biden was installed for open borders:

"During his first day in office, President Joe Biden swiftly moved to dismantle major parts of the Trump administration's immigration legacy by halting border wall construction, pausing most deportations from the interior of the U.S., rescinding travel and immigration restrictions on several Muslim-majority countries and safeguarding protections for so-called "Dreamers."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

So who hired more illegals to work on their property? Trump or Biden? Trump has an extreme financial interest in keeping illegals in the USA. He and his buddies need them for cheap labor instead of paying a living wage to Americans.

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

Pathetic deflection

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Then tell me how effective Trump is at keeping illegals out of the USA when he keeps on hiring them? You're deflecting.

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

Libs are clueless:

"President Donald Trump on Friday declared a national emergency to build a border wall. Yet illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border are at their lowest levels in nearly 50 years."
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/15/as-trump-moves-to-declare-national-emergency-to-build-wall-border-crossings-at-record-lows.html

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Trump said he could do anything per the constitution. He promised to build a wall. He didn't, he lied. You are clueless.

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

Again: on day one Biden halted Border wall construction. Whine harder.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

The subject is Trump's lies. Biden halted construction, but it seems that border crossings are still going down now.

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

Libs are clueless:

Biden pushed open borders for 3.5 years! He signed an temporary executive action to benefit Democrats in the election.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Which "temporary executive action" was that?

Why are border crossings going down now?

[–] itsbananas2024 (1733) 2 months ago

This whole back & forth with Branson makes you look desperate. I dont think you even know why you hate Trump anymore, you just WANT to hate him. Its like you need to feed your hate.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

I know why Trump sucks. I have a list. Trump's vile actions keep on adding to the list each year :)

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

You are clueless: "Biden signs executive action drastically tightening border
He has faced political pressure as migrants have continued to arrive at the U.S.-Mexico border."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-signs-executive-order-shutting-southern-border-rcna155426

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

I asked for the executive action or executive order, not a news story about Biden's actions. Try again?

Here is a link you can use. https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

My cited link explicitly listed executive action and executive order. You're clearly being dishonest.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

If it listed the executive action/order, then what is it? Why can't you tell me which EO or EA it is?

[–] Martoto (5024) 2 months ago

You are the fucking clueless one. You hail Trump's empty promises about "moving" to declare an emergency. Fuck I can do that. I can declare it an emergency and offer figurative hand jobs to all you dumb racist fucks. Then I can do the same as Don has about it. Fucking zero. Because I know like Don does, that you only care about him shitting lies that you want to hear straight into your stupid mouths.

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

Empty promises? Meanwhile: Yet illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border are at their lowest levels in nearly 50 years.

[–] itsbananas2024 (1733) 2 months ago

Careful, Martoto might lable you a 'dumb racist fuck' for speaking out about immigration.

[–] luvthepros (795) 2 months ago

@Branson26.......Trump is the KING of deflection. It is a defense mechanism he uses to skirt issues. But, having said that, what Ranb said about Trump using illegals for cheap labor is very true. Trump has used illegals for years as cheap labor and that is a fact. Trump supporters are supporting a slime ball for president. And......that is a fact.

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

Then go to whine to government who allows it.

[–] jcnyclv (1556) 2 months ago

That's 5 years ago! And during the 4 YEARS in office since then the Dems spent billions on illegals instead of replenishing the FEMA funds!! Wow, shame on the Dems! No one can f*ck things up like today's Democrats! They weren't that way years ago and that I can say with conviction!

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

Democrats don't care, they only listen to MSM.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Shouldn't Trump have replenished the FEMA funds he wasted at the border by not stopping illegal immigration? Why is it the responsibility of anyone else to fix Trump's screw-ups?

[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

Fema was't broke under Trump. Go whine to Biden about his open borders: Mayorkas warns FEMA doesn’t have enough funding to last through hurricane season

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

The Biden-Harris regime has weaponized FEMA just like they did with the DOJ, the FBI and other alphabet agencies.

[–] jcnyclv (1556) 2 months ago

It wasn't a screw up. It was the right thing to do at the time. The money was depleted during the next 4 years when the Dems had control. But hey, keep going back, back, back into time looking for nonsense.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Why was it the right thing to do at the time instead of using FEMA for what it was intended for?

Trump promised us that Mexico was going to pay for a wall to keep illegals out.

[–] jcnyclv (1556) 2 months ago

If you don't know or understand I feel sorry for you. But have a good day anyway.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

It seems that you don't know either. It this an example of your self-loathing, or your self-pity?

[–] jcnyclv (1556) 2 months ago

Thanks so much for the good laugh, I appreciate it! 🤣🤣🤣

[–] Information-Police (4889) 2 months ago

The Biden administration has been using FEMA to help with refugees and asylum seekers - that is, people here legally.

[–] jcnyclv (1556) 2 months ago

The Biden administration has let very few legals into the country. What's come in are illegal border jumpers by the hundreds of thousands, many of them violent criminals. But I think you know that already.

[–] itsbananas2024 (1733) 2 months ago

"No one can f*ck things up like today's Democrats! They weren't that way years ago and that I can say with conviction!"

Too bad others cant admit that the Demodratic party is nothing like it once was. Its flat out corrupt now and people will still get behind them.

[–] blue1981 (7735) 2 months ago

Illegal immigration was controlled during Trump's Presidency and wasn't at the levels of the Biden Regime where it's now being used to bring about the Great Replacement. It's the issue now is that taxpayer dollars are being depleted for Fema that's meant to help Americans not foreign invaders that's the difference.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Controlled? Do you mean by allowing illegals into the country, allowing big businesses to fire American workers and hiring illegal for a lower wage? By Trump employing illegal aliens at his own businesses? If that is what you mean, then yes, Trump controlled illegal immigration.

Why do you call illegal immigration controlled when Trump allows it to happen, but something else when Trump is not in office? Trump claimed he could do anything. Why did Trump choose to allow illegals into the USA instead of denying them entry?

Where is your evidence to support your claim that Biden is using "taxpayer dollars are being depleted for Fema that's meant to help Americans not foreign invaders"?

I posted a link that said Trump was using FEMA funds at the border. Are you claiming that Biden was doing that in 2019? Not Trump?

[–] DarthAckbar (2039) 2 months ago

🤣

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

Biden administration is depleting FEMA funding to use on immigrants. This is not true

Yes, it's 100% true.

If you repeatedly see something with your own eyes IRL and the government tells you that your eyes are lying, do you believe them? ... no need to answer, I already know the answer.

[–] NukeDude (795) 2 months ago

That amount is chump change compared to what Harris/Biden are spending. Besides, if he hadn't done that he would have been drawn and quartered by the hateful, sick and sycophantic press.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Trump promised that Mexico would be paying for a wall to keep illegals out. Trump could have kept that promise instead.

[–] NukeDude (795) 2 months ago

He wanted to impose sanctions and tariffs that would have cost Mexico $$. That's what he meant...not that Mexico would have cut us a check. LOL

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

No. He said Mexico would pay. They did not.

Trump did not say he would try to make them pay through some scheme or whatnot. Trump lied.

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

He didn't need to elaborate, those of us with common sense and deduction knew what he was talking about. The media twisted what he said, you swallowed their lie and then regurgitated it.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Mexico either paid or they did not pay. No need to twist anything at all.

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

Show me where he specifically said that they would write us a check.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. The wall was not finished and Mexico did not pay. trump made the claim. It is up to Trump and his supporters to supply the proof.

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

Do you know what paraphrasing is?

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

I know what a promise is. I also know what a Trump promise is worth; nothing. Same as your claims on this forum; worth nothing.

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

Since when did you ever cared about Trump's claims? Never; so why are you whining about it?

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

I have spent years caring about Trump's claims (lies). Usually when I call Trump on his lies, you have some sort of excuse handy. You say things that amount to "Trump is a spineless coward who has to do whatever the deep state tells him to do".

Remember all of the times I commented on Trump's claims that he cares about our civil rights, but decided to have a gun grab instead? You claimed that was the deep state, not Trump.

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

Yes, because it was the DS and you should have realized that by now; unfortunately, you lack discernment.

You've been anti-Trump since day-1.

You expect the impossible from one person that was surrounded by 98% of disloyal treasonous backstabbers since day one.

When he said he has the power to do this or that, it was true as long as he had the support for it; unfortunately, he didn't because he was surrounded by disloyal swamp rats and snakes...

And an entire establishment that demonized him against the American people.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Yes, I've been anti-Trump for a long time. It only makes sense to be opposed to a proud rapist like Trump. You probably think that old widows just had it coming and they are not entitled to continue to live in their homes if Trump wants to bulldoze the house for a parking lot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Coking_house

It is not impossible to keep your promises, provided that you limit your promises to reasonable ones. Trump does not do that. Trump promises the sky and only delivers dirt for the most part.

When Trump claimed he could do anything per Article 2 of the Constitution, he was very specific and put no limits on this "anything" he could do. It was an obvious lie of course. But I have no problem holding him to his promise and reminding anyone about it.

Trump is the establishment that demonizes the American people.

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

Trump was not a politician nor a member of the swamp so he was not prepared for what he was up against. Your expectations are unpractical and unreasonable.

Besides, even with the gates of hell opposing him, he still accomplished more good than most other presidents in decades. Things were better under Trump.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

My expectations are tell the truth and do not promise anything you cannot deliver. Those are entirely reasonable expectations.

"He was not prepared"? There you go again with your "Trump is a doormat" trope. It is getting rather old, like Trump. Whee do you draw the line? You keep on making excuses for trump's failures, why not pick someone else instead?

Trump managed to just stand by and watch our economy collapse instead of doing anything reasonable to limit the damage during the pandemic.

Promising the pandemic would go away like a miracle or suggesting light and disinfectant for the masses while he got the best medical care money could provide did not make it better for anyone other than Trump.

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

If you promise something to everyone but “circumstances and people” prevent you from fulfilling and/or completing that promise, does it make you a liar? Does it make you a deceiver? Does it make you a failure? Does it make you a doormat?

You know damn well that the scamdemic was caused by the cabal. Stop blaming Trump for the actions of others.

I have provided lengthy explanations about the scamdemic and the three types of vaccines, if you had an ounce of discernment, you would know the truth, but you're so afflicted and impaired by TDS that you can’t discern or deduce anything.
You rely 100% on propaganda and the msm.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Yes it does. Trump promised us a wall that Mexico would pay for. He did not promise us a wall as long as everyone else agreed with him.

Trump said he could do anything, this included not letting others get in the way of his plan to recover from the pandemic. If he ever had a plan.

You 100% act like Trump is a complete sheep, which is your excuse for why he can't do a damn thing.

The MSM did not promise us a wall that Mexico would pay for, that was Trump.

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 months ago

Yes, he could do anything as long as he has support, however ...

Powerful people did get in his way.

Powerful people did block him.

Powerful people countermanded him.

Powerful people betrayed him.

You do realize that a president is not the sole ruler of a country?

You do realize that a president can be impeached?

You do realize that a president can be convicted?

You do realize that a president can be removed?

Oh, and the msm is always twisting things that Trump says.

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

Trump would have us believe that he is the most powerful man in the world.

You would have us believe he is a sheep and a doormat. Why you want this loser in the white House is beyond me.

[–] darkpast (8716) 2 months ago

Biden for Treason

[–] Ranb (9595) 2 months ago

And who is going to hold Biden accountable? Trump promised to hold Clinton accountable, but he lost his spine for it as soon as he was elected in 2016.