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What would have happened if he had died the 13 J?


Nobody talks about it because the media is trying to erase that event, but what do you think would have happened if donald had died?

I think Texas would have declared the secession, followed by other states. What do you think?

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They tried that once before. Didn't get them anywhere, though if they wanted that, I'd be minded to let them go. But then the People's Republic of Austin would secede from Texas. And then parts of Austin would secede from it. And where does it all end? Instead of all that, how about we agree on some facts and just talk to each other?

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Because this isn't Teletubbie land 😢

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Really cogent, especially coming from someone living in a fantasy where a state can secede

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It can try for sure, look at the Donbass in Ukraine.

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Ukraine? Thought we were in America. My bad.

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Of course, because USA is "1st world" and never can happen something like that 🤦

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"Discussions and threats of secession often surfaced in American politics during the first half of the 19th century, and secession was declared by the Confederate States of America in the South during the American Civil War. However, in 1869, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White that unilateral secession was not permitted, saying that the union between a state (Texas in the case before the bar) "was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States."

I don't know what angle you have, but if you're thinking legal secession, no, it's illegal. If you're thinking illegal secession, no again. They tried that in 1861 and the punks were put in their place by US Grant and the Union army. In summary: not gonna happen.

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I know It, so? That doesn't mean there can't be conflicts which, in the worst case, could became into civil war.

The Texas National Guard IS already in the border and they are prepared, to fight against the federal government, in the own words or The Texas governor.

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We are not in 1861, context has changed.

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Yah, it has. The weapons and might of the federal government is now about 1000 times what it was since then. Get real.

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I never thought Barack Obama would just direct a Dem Presidential incumbent to stand down and install the successor who was incapable of achieving a single delegate on her own accord. 14.4 million primary votes repudiated. I never imagined the vast disregard of civil rights during COVID or the rise of the surveillance state turned against Americans. I never expected media tolerance for intelligence spooks of all stripes baldly spewing misinformation to throw elections. So, I no longer think anything politically or civically unfathomable in America. I think it feasible that a people of the right mindset and a state with the right economic and military power might secede from the union in the 21st century.

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There's no evidence that Obama did that.

Polls indicate that her popularity in the party and in the country is very high. The Harris-Walz ticket is now leading by 5 point and even formerly Republican states like Arizona are coming into play. Where's the problem, man?

"civil right during COVID" - yeah, right? People have "right" to infect others? Get real. Emergency conditions require emergency measures.

The election was entirely on the up and up Let me give you a hint. Nobody like a sore loser, or someone who disrespects democracy.

So you think an ant can defeat an elephant I suppose. Well, dream on all you like, but ain't gonna happen.









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A healthy and legitimate system would have involved a competitive primary during which we the voters could have discovered the severity of Biden’s infirmities early enough to have a say in choosing a better candidate. Instead, the public was only confronted with the truth a few weeks ago, by which time only internal Dem power brokers like President Obama were positioned to make a change. That’s a failure of democracy, unless you think choosing a candidate without voter input is a systemic improvement.

For all that, Biden still received 14+ million primary votes this year. He also won both primary and general elections in 2020. Having a president who actually won votes be pushed out so party cognoscenti could hand the nomination Kamala Harris (who washed out before a single primary vote was cast in 2020) is akin to 70’s era USSR elections and not how American democracy was intended to function.

So there’s the problem and it affects the entire electorate, not just sheep who see no problem with jettisoning 14 million votes. It’s shocking level stuff to install an untested Presidential candidate. The precedent, along with the others I mentioned, convinces me that there are no longer any absolute American political institutions; including the Union itself

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Exactly, the demócrats have put USA in an extreme state of fragility now.

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I think Biden should have been more honest also, but things could be a lot worse. The party does support the candidate. We don't live in a perfect world and this is nothing like the USSR. If you don't support her, don't vote for her. Pretty simple, right.

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I can safely infer that your M is for Moron.

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