The Book of Revelation says the Beast has 7 heads, these represent 7 dictators. One of the others is Vance, another Putin. The wound would have been mortal if not for God's intervention.
Revelation 13:3
> And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast.
“Two Corinthians, right? Two Corinthians 3:17, that’s the whole ballgame. Where the spirit of the Lord—right?—is, there is liberty!”
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Imagine how shocked you'll be in four years, when Trump leaves office and there is no rapture, no seven year tribulation, none of that.
BTW, you do realize that dispensational premillennialism -- the doctrine you're evoking here -- only dates back to the 1830s? The vast majority of Christians who have ever lived, and who still live today do not believe in it, and don't interpret Revelation in such a literal sense. A great many scholars think that the "beast" that is referred to in Revelation chapter 13 was the Emperor Nero, a noted persecutor of Christians in the first century AD, and the reason that Revelations is so entirely couched in such surreal metaphor is that it wasn't exactly healthy to write highly critically and openly of a Roman emperor.
No, it doesn't. That's like saying "The early Church" this and that, and paying no attention to what the Bible says about the churches in that day, how they were ordered, who did the ordering, etc.
Dude, you are so ignorant on the subject, you think the Book is actually called "Revelations." 🤦🏼♀️
Your post is so incoherent I am not even sure what you are trying to say. And sorry "Revelation." But of course you're the type to think a careless typo signifies anything more than a careless typo.
I'm so ignorant on the subject that I actually am aware of, and understand the differences between post-tribulational premillennialism, pre-tribulational (i.e. dispensational) premillennialism, postmilliennialism, and amillennialism.
And the very fact that there are so many different interpretations of the book of Revelation ought to caution you about calling other people ignorant, as well as making sweeping predictions of when certain events will happen. You don't. Remember Matthew 24:36.
You're the type who doesn't know a lot of ignorant people call it "Revelations" in all sincerity.
My. Can't you throw the basic terms around. I'm so impressed.
Read Mr. Burgershmurger. He sounds like he not only knows his subject, but his IQ is several points higher than mine. You will find him a worthy opponent. He likely also has more patience than I do with those of the "Higher Criticism" school.
Clear enough?
Good grief, I've seen so many of you on the internet. You seize on one small mistake, and ignore everything else. If you had any ability to argue your point, if you had the intelligence you claim you have and I don't, why then you'd be able to take my argument apart in detail. You'd be able to go "here's your point A, and here's why it's wrong; here's your point B, and here's why it's wrong," and so on.
You don't. In fact, you don't even try. Same thing I've seen a thousand times before: " Ha, yur ignorant, you don' know nuthin', what a clown, lol!"
Name-calling, accusations, labeling, unsupported assertions, fallacious arguments. And most of all, too much ego ever to back down. God you idiots are so tiresome.
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shareOther than "Derangement Syndrome," what does that supposedly say?
shareApparently you don't know your bible. The rapture is in the bible and it's a tired old myth that it only emerged in the 19th century.
1 Thessalonians 4:17:
Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
Then again, it took Luther to do away with several heresies of the Catholic and Orthodox church. So even if rapture wasn't promoted until the 1830s, it wouldn't invalidate it.
I'm abundantly familiar with the Bible. It's not an old myth that dispensational premillenialism emerged in the 19th century; it's a documented fact. The Rapture as dispensationalists conceive of it was never part of the early or medieval Church’s theology but is the modern creation of John Nelson Darby less than 200 years ago.
Dispensationalists always cite this passage. Well, do you think amillennialists and postmillennialists are mysteriously unaware of it? Got news for you: they aren’t. It didn't somehow go unnoticed for 1800 years. As with so much of the Bible, there’s room for interpretation. Three problems with claiming this passage refers to the Rapture:
1) neither it nor the entire book of 1 Thessalonians mentions Christ returning two more times, or makes any reference to such a distinction.
2) Dispensationalists believe the Rapture will be a secret and silent event (based on Matthew 24:37-42), some people will be “left behind” and be shocked to see others have simply disappeared; yet this passage from Thessalonians describes a very loud and public event. This is all the more problematic because dispensationalists insist that they interpret Scripture literally, allowing for symbolism only when such is the obvious intent of the author.
3) Dispensationalists are in effect manufacturing a 2nd and a 3rd coming – 2nd for the Rapture, and the 3rd for the final judgment. But this is not Biblical. Those living at the time of the 2nd Coming will receive judgment. The end.
For most of history, the prevailing doctrine has been amillennial -- the "thousand years" mentioned in Revelation 20 is seen as a symbolic number; the "millennium" has already begun and the "reign of Christ" on earth is the current church age, which replaces the old covenant God had with the Jews. And at the end of this church age, Christ will return in judgment.
"Dispensationalists believe the Rapture will be a secret and silent event...." Wrong. We believe 1Thess. 4:17. We just don't believe you will hear that call, nor will you see us ascend, since it is promised to happen in the twinkling of an eye. Some will be left behind, but they will believe a strong delusion. We live in an age where a lot of people believe strong delusions. That those left behind will get some explanation that they swallow hook, line and sinker does not surprise me at all.
Read the Bible carefully and you will see that in 1Thess. 4:17 the Lord comes FOR His saints, but does not come to the earth -- we meet Him in the air. So the second coming occurs at the end of the Tribulation when He comes WITH His saints (Rev. 19:11-16), "clothed in fine linen, white and clean" -- just as the saints are always described in heaven -- and He puts down the rebellion on earth for the final time. So that's only one second coming, because the one you consider the first does not have the Lord coming to the earth. We meet Him in the air. Not a "second coming" because we come to Him. Clear?
Don't try to tell a Dispensationalist what they believe when you don't even know how many comings of Christ we believe will occur.
BTW, the Church Age ends with the Rapture.
I have not changed your mind, but at least when you hold forth on what Dispensationalists believe perhaps you won't get it hopelessly muddled.
Now tell me what I said wasn't clear and it was I who got things muddled. 🙄
We believe 1Thess. 4:17. We just don't believe you will hear that call, nor will you see us ascend, since it is promised to happen in the twinkling of an eye. Some will be left behind, but they will believe a strong delusion. We live in an age where a lot of people believe strong delusions. That those left behind will get some explanation that they swallow hook, line and sinker does not surprise me at all.
Exactly. Dispies are on their 5000th rapture prediction. Complete clowns who can only read at most 10 verses of the Bible.
shareDon't quit your day job.
But since I'm ready, I don't care if his election brings the Rapture then the Tribulation.
So the prophecy says he has to get re-elected?
I guess that first term was a practice run for the end times?
"Mortally wounded", yeah, sure. The only thing that's hopefully lethal is your TDS...
shareNah. The media hates Trump. The Democrats hate Trump! And therefore he can't be the antichrist cause they'd all be the ones who would love the antichrist.
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