1. We didn't see the moment Trump's ear bleed, we just saw him covering his ear. It's possible he put blood on his own ear. It's a common technique in WWE.
2. Trump has everything to lose, he was being convicted, and if he doesn't win the election he will be sent to jail. People will do crazy things to avoid going to jail.
Trump is a grifter and a conman, so I'm HIGHLY skeptical of this being a real attempt on his life.
shareHmmm, my instincts would normally agree with you. Trump is certainly a grifter, but that shot was too close for comfort to make me think he’d agree to getting shot that close to death.
IMO, it was just some dumb kid that wanted to make a martyr out of Trump.
We didn't see the moment his ear bleed, we just saw him turn his head and use his hand to cover the ear. It's possible the bullets never passed Trump that closely.
shareIt's amazing how you can start off making 100% sense then close out with the stupidest shit I ever heard just because you have to tow the line. Lennynero
shareTell that to the dead rally attendee.
shareWas there one? I doubt.
shareOne dead and another critically injured.
sharePictures? Names?
shareThey are not going to release that information this soon. Most likely tomorrow or the following day after they have made sure families are notified.
shareI mean they killed fake shooter. Won't be surprised of they could kill/injure few randoms along the way.
Politicians have no conciseness.
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https://notthebee.com/article/victim-at-trump-rally-identified-as-former-fire-chief-who-shielded-his-wife-and-daughters-from-bullets?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0hXO1gDfgag-jDGP-uu_bEycMAAJlEHrslmzt3rvIR9Nyb74xA8NoeQ-g_aem_ntpMvZmjb2511MW7TIL0oA
This is the shooting victim. His name was 50 year old Corey Comperatore and was at the rally with his family.
Why are you commenting if you don't know basic facts that have been reported for over 12 hours!
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”Joseph, an OB-GYN, said that he told police he could help render assistance but that police said they did not need him, so he helped with the man who was killed.
He said that the man's family was in the bleachers with him and that they were in shock and didn't know what was going on. About five family members were there, two of whom were "hysterical," Joseph said. The family was taken to the tent with their deceased relative.”
As I’ve stated too many people involved for it to be a hoax or a conspiracy.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/witness-at-trump-rally-describes-seeing-the-person-who-died-being-shot-in-head/ar-BB1pW43j?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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Juicy Smollett case looked real for few days until inconveniences started to appear.
The way his bodyguards behave tells you it was staged. If this is not staged then he has the most incompetent security ever for a politician. They literally stood him up for second sniper to finish the job. And let his head open. When no one knew who did what and how many shooters.
For 12 seconds they hold him still. Not only that - they found and put the most petite woman in front of him so she would be whole head shorter and give him time to pose for pictures and give whole view of his face.
Real professional security don't behave like that. That's why if seems staged. Security and Trump behaved so carelessly like this because they all knew no second sniper is out there. They hired that dead guy to take "one for the team" and then shoot him as he pretended to shoot at Trump. It's all for publicity and martyr status. Real security would never hold him in the open like that. They would duck him to the ground and move, not showing his head.
Watch it again and again. They all literally stopped to let him pose. It's like some SNL parody
I think they're just that dumb/asleep at the wheel. The thing is it's too big a risk for Trump, and if it was staged he wouldn't make it look this obvious with so many lashes in judgment. Plus, would you trust a 20 year old dumbass to hit your ear perfectly, and not accidentally kill you? No one would.
shareHe had dummy bullets. They would not allow him to shoot real ones. Trump was never shot. His people told him to touch his ear when he will hear shots. Then his security cut his ear while he was on the floor.
In no way that nerd in glasses could aim that precisely and hit Trumps ear.
"Trump was never shot. His people told him to touch his ear when he will hear shots. Then his security cut his ear while he was on the floor."
Oh my dear god!!!!!!
Please, restore a tiny bit of your reputation as a rational member of the human race and retract that.
For your own sake.
"Dummy bullets".
Just how dumb are you prepared to look on a forum, man?
If this is not staged then he has the most incompetent security ever for a politician.
Those aren’t bodyguards. It’s Secret Service.
shareWe know it was staged it's just the liberals think Don was in on the plot while a bullet missed his dome by a centermeter
shareWhat the hell has happened to the U.S. to make this many people batshit crazy? I don't think Americans were like this when I was growing up. Now, whenever anything happens, the tinfoil hat nutjobs come out of the woodwork. You sound like someone I had an argument with twenty years ago. He was a 9/11 truther, and he (stupidly) asserted that what had hit the Pentagon was not a Boeing 757, but a Global Hawk drone. I pulled up some photos of the Pentagon taken after the attack, and you could clearly see part of the plane's landing gear in the wreckage. So I pulled up a photo of a Boeing 757 sitting at an airport, and zoomed in on the landing gear, and the wheels were unmistakably identical. This guy just repeated "that wasn't a 757, it was a Global Hawk drone."
You can show people videos, photographs, tangible proof, and it just doesn't matter. They'll believe what they want. They'll leap right past the simplest (and correct) explanation, simply ignore any evidence that proves them wrong, and come up with the most ridiculous, convoluted conspiracy bullshit. And then they're smug about it! Like they're smart enough to see some truth that other people are too blind to notice.
Why the hell are there so many people like this around these days?
Sad isn't it? Makes me want to start looking up some bridges to sell to them.
shareThese people have been around a VERY long time.
Look how many people thought (and still think) the JFK assassination was anything more than one, lone nutjob.
Yeah but their numbers are growing. In the years shortly after Kennedy was assassinated, most people accepted the findings of the Warren commission. A poll from last year showed that half of all Americans believe there was a conspiracy to assassinate JFK. Vincent Bugliosi did an incredible, and extremely thorough job of debunking the various conspiracy theories, none of which stand up to scrutiny when you examine all the evidence. And it hasn't made a dent.
There seems to be some deep-seated, psychological need some people have to believe in this nonsense.
Yes, I see your point.
The biggest difference I see from then to now is, stupid people all over the world can spread idiocy via the internet.
I once thought that the global sharing of ideas would lead to some sort of enlightening. Ha! oh to be young and idealistic again...
You fucking people are insane if you believe the Warren commission
shareThen where is your proof that this is a real assassin?
shareOh, the corpse on the rooftop with the back of his head blown off. The dead rally attendee, who took a stray round in the head and tragically died. The video of the incident. The interviews with witnesses who say they saw the shooter. Little things like that.
Where is your proof that all of this was staged?
I never said the shooter was fake, he might be a martyr who believed Trump and was willing to die for him like the 911 hijackers, and there were reports the shooter was Republican, which makes my theory more likely.
I never said the dead attendee was fake, I explained the reason many times in the thread.
I never said the video was fake.
I never said interviews from witnesses were fake.
All I said was it's possible Trump can stage the shooting, despite everything you mentioned was real.
Put the bong down,
shareNone because a bystander and the shooter died. I grant you though that it's almost too perfect for Trump, like a perfect storm of shooter allowed to get off a shot/doesn't hurt him/bloodies his face but unharmed/SS is so slow he can do a fist pump/right in front of American flag with photog there to capture it. I think he just has insane luck on his side though, it's like the JFK thing, people can't believe one lone nut got so lucky in the other way where so many things went wrong so they assume it has to be a conspiracy.
shareThere is an interesting video on youtube that shows people yelling "he's got a gun" that are right next to the building the shooter was on. One commenter posted that those people probably saved Trump's life because the shooter most likely heard them yelling "he's got a gun, on the roof" to the police which caused him to hurriedly try to get his shots off and failing to miss his intended mark.
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Why would a bystander get killed to make you believe it wasn't a hoax? Do you think politicians give a shit about the lives of normal people?
share...Yes. It's not a hoax because Trump would be crucified for it if it came out that he arranged it. Only way it works is if he's the only one who gets shot, and as you can see he would've had to entrust his life to a 20 year old dumbass.
Now in a bubble do I think politicians like Joe Biden give a shit about the lives of anyone on Earth besides his stupid family? Naw lol
Your reasoning was laughable, I can show you why by changing a few words: "He didn't kill people, because he would be crucified for it if it came out that he did it." People do crazy things. And I replied to your "entrust his life to a 20 year old dumbass" many times in the thread: we didn't see the moment Trump's ear bled.
shareHere - oh asshole - you've got a photo of the bleeding ear.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/trumps-shooter-was-a-registered-republican-had-donated-to-a-democratic-pac/
And now fuck off!
I already replied to your reasoning in the post: We didn't see the moment Trump's ear bleed, we just saw him covering his ear. It's possible he put blood on his own ear. It's a common technique in WWE.
shareIt's not a hoax because
1. Trump is already winning.
2. The risk to his life it too high. It makes a great FICTION story but in real life, you would have to be insanely desperate or stupid.
3. Trump doesn't have the ability to do such an operation and he knows it. Biden has the fbi and the cia in his pocket, as we have seen. ANy such attempt by Trump or any republican and it will be investigated by the most professional and hostile invetigators on the planet, who would be happy to break rules if it left they get Trump.
As conspiracy theories go, this one is a no starter.
1. By a margin, which is not a guarantee.
2. There is no risk. I stated the reasoning many times in the thread.
3. No one can fool the FBI and CIA? You are trying to argue this is not a hoax, if it was not a hoax, we just witnessed a 20-year-old embarrass the Secret Service.
1. But still.
2. So now he has to control what medical people at the hospital sees the wound. And they all have to maintain the story.... Oh, and you have to hope that none of the cameras caught the fake cutting of his ear after the shot. Oh and who do you pick to do that cutting? DId they practice it, or does the man have a history of doing such shit? Did they put a former studio westling cutter undercover as security? This plot is not doable by Trump.
3. You can easily fool the fbi and cia. IF they trust you and/or are sympathetic to you. That would not be the case with Trump. Both organizations have shown deep hostility to him.
The cutting didn't have to be in public. If it was a hoax, the cutting most likely happened in the van, we didn't see any wound in the ear, we just saw blood. If it was a hoax, it would have happened in this order: Trump covered his ear, they dropped down, someone put blood on his ear, they escorted him to the van and did the cutting on the ear.
shareOk. So now you need to hope that no one got a picture of the undamaged ear during that walk.
There is no way that Trump would agree to a plan that has so many possible failure points and such a high cost if he got caught.
As conspriacy theories go, this one is not going to catch on.
My buddy that believes in big foot is more convincing that this.
Your reasoning for someone not doing something is ridiculous, history teaches us people did crazy things, I can change a few words to make you realize why: "There is no way that O. J. Simpson would have done a plan that has so many possible failure points and such a high cost if he got caught."
Oh, and O. J. Simpson was more ridiculous than Trump. As I said if Trump doesn't win the election he will be sent to jail, he has everything to lose, he has to win. What are the reasons for O. J. having to kill two people?
Crazy or stupid people do crazy or stupid things. OJ's crime was a crime of passion, he killed his ex wife and a male friend.
Trump is a genius level and old operator. This would not have been a crime of passion, this would have been an attempt at a... massive con.
Trump's business and political experience would have told him that this was a loony tunes risk. and he would never have gone for it.
A smart person wouldn't do crazy and stupid things, especially a genius like Trump. After being shot, instead of following the order from the Secret Service to the van, what did he do? He stopped, showed his face to everyone, and fist pump.
If the shooter was not dead, or there was a second shooter, he would be dead. How can a genius do such things? How can some top-tier highly trained and highly paid agents from the Secret Service let him do all those stupid things?
When is the last time we had TWO shooters in an assasination attempt in this country?
shareA genius like Trump would know the past doesn't always predict the future. Everyone who invests in a fund knows the warning: "Past performance is no guarantee of future results."
How can a genius believe there was no second shooter just because there was none in the past?
How can all the airline business and government geniuses make a provision: if a plane got hijacked, passengers and pilots should obey what the hijacker said? Because the geniuses think: never a hijacker in the past used a plane as a human-guided missile.
Was there a second shooter?
No, which supports my theory that it was a hoax. A genius like Trump would know the past doesn't always predict the future. How can a genius like him believe there was no second shooter... just because there were none in the past. Unless it was staged.
shareSo Trump was right.
Dude. Chill out. The shooter was smart enough to register as a republican. The mainstream media has their talking point to bury this. It will not marginalize the panic mongering about Trump that is Biden's only hope at this point.