From my view MAGA Trump supporters don't care what Trump says or does, they will support anything. IS there something that would make you reconsider your support?
shareYes
- Send 200 billion to another country to supposedly win an unwinnable war with no accountability
- mandate lockdowns that destroy the economy in the name of a hs “pandemic” that was exactly the same as the flu
- use lockdowns as an excuse to print trillions in debt spending while giving away a few hundred billion in “stimulus”
- cut domestic oil production increasing gas prices and generating record inflation
- promote open borders
- be a senile pantshitter
- promote child genital mutilation, murder, and pedophilia. Oppose films that expose child trafficking
- launder money through Ukraine
- hate American first
- promote Democrat party mental illness
Any questions?
• We are winning this supposed 'unwinnable' war: https://imgur.com/gallery/2Ay8Nwu
Do you have any idea how much we would lose if we DIDN'T spend all of this money on the war in Ukraine? You had better hope we don't find out! Your life will never be the same. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/13/russia-ukraine-war-west-funding-00131638
I really wish that you would educate yourself, it's extremely important. I doubt you will though, please, PLEASE prove me wrong about you!
• Trump was in charge when most of the lockdowns were happening . . . how do you not acknowledge that?
• Biden saved this country from going through a TERRIBLE depression, it's really amazing that we survived the Hell that was the pandemic without more serious long term effects. I'd be interested in any link that you want to share so I could see your point of view.
• US oil output has increased since former President Trump left office – a time when oil prices were low because of the Covid-19 emergency. US oil output is now projected to rise to an average of 12.8 million barrels per day this year for the first time ever according to federal estimates.
• The borders aren't open If the administration was pursuing any kind of open border policy, the number of people being arrested would be dropping. And that's not the case. They're arresting and expelling as many people as ever.
• Ridiculous and immature.
• Ridiculous and insane.
• Utterly stupid. No President in American history has hated America, if you believe that any have, it shows just how suggestible you are to believing whatever someone tells you.
• Both parties suffer from mental illness and inevitably turn people against each other because most aren't intelligent enough to realize that is what happens in a two party system. We should both be seeking the truth rather than just hating the other party like a child.
- Propaganda and FN, you are in denial.
- Trump didn't mandate anything, that was your master Joe.
- Biden didn't save anything, he made things worse than it has been in decades.
- Tell that bullshit to the millions of Americans that have been paying double/tripple gas prices since Biden took over.
- Bullshit denialism, millions have invaded our borders because Biden allowed it.
- There are video clips that proves his senility.
- Nevertheless, those are facts, cope.
- Everything the Biden regime has done is evidence of their hatred for America.
if you believe that any have, it shows just how suggestible you are to believing whatever someone tells you.
You are hopeless. Total denial of reality.
shareTrump mandated a gun grab. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-12-26/pdf/2018-27763.pdf Trump wanted more with his "take the guns 1st" insanity also.
Here are some more Trump mandates; https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/donald-trump/2021 This stuff is not hard. Pretending it is makes you look foolish.
Gas prices were between $1.89 and $4.88 between 2016 and 2023. The lowest prices were during the pandemic that Trump mismanaged so much. Lock downs that Trump claimed he could have prohibited, reduced gas demand so much that prices fell.
Gas was $2.38 in January 2021 when Trump left office. Gas peaked at $4.88 in July 2022. This is a factor of 2.05, not the 3x that you suggest. As of December 2023, gas is $3.17/gallon.
Did the millions that came past the border during the Trump administration due so because Trump allowed them? Trump never did close the border.
Why are you ignoring the word salad that is a prominent feature of some of Trump's speeches? https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trumps-rambling-90-second-speech-stuns-english-speaking-world_uk_57ab37d7e4b08ab70dc0f646
- Trump is not the FBI/DOJ/ATF – those are agencies of the DS that you deny exists, they, along with the Dems and RINO accomplices/advisors pushed those gun mandates.
- Gas prices reached almost 10$ in some areas with an average of $5 in most. Search gas prices via images instead of using flawed data, it just makes you look foolish.
- He didn't allowed them to cross, that was Biden, increased illegal immigration brings increased crime.
Those crimes had declined prior to 2021 and surged to almost 2000% as of 2021, so yeah, Biden allowed it.
You continue to lie and cite far-left bullshit propaganda or flawed government data since your mouth is stuck to their rectum.
You are only confirming your stupidity.
Trump was the president. But you're trying to convince us that he was actually a lawn chair.
How is it that nearly everyone else understands that the president has powers granted in the Constitution to enact regulations to enforce laws passed by Congress and uses the CFR to accomplish this, but you do not?
If Trump is not able to rein in the FBI/DOJ/ATF, then he is not worthy to be president.
If you're going to claim that gas hit $10, then you show the images. Saying the images exist, but refusing to show them makes you look foolish. It is not my job to prove you wrong, it is your job to prove that you are right.
So Biden allowed people to cross the border while Trump was president? Why does that claim make sense to you?
The CFR and federal register are not propaganda, they are the law of the land. How is it you have managed to live without knowing these basic facts?
Tell me more about why you think Trump's ramblings make sense or make American look good.
• The borders aren't open If the administration was pursuing any kind of open border policy, the number of people being arrested would be dropping. And that's not the case. They're arresting and expelling as many people as ever."
LOL!!!!!!!!🤣
It’s funny you assumed I was referring to a specific president. All I did was list things that would make Trump supporters not want to vote for him.
Clearly you know in your heart they’re all attributable to the senile pantshitter and his tranny puppet master.
When someone’s tranny wife says in 2008 “this is the first time I’ve ever been proud to be an American”, and when they attend a church for 20 years who’s pastor says Americans deserved 911, it’s quite obvious they hate the country.
When someone is senile, and shits their pants on multiple occasions in public, it’s not immature to refer to them as such. It’s just reality. Something you’re obviously unfamiliar with.
-Trump's pro-LGBTQIA+; DeSantis is the only one speaking against child mutilation
-Trump never vetoed any of Pelosi's bills, speaking of promoting Dem mental illness
-Trump TALKED a lot about a closed border, but he didn't do it
-Trump mixes up Biden and Obama, swears he does it on purpose, but if you look at the tape, no
-Trump kept Fauci, built his Covid response around Fauci, let Fauci set policy, and gave Fauci a medal before leaving
-Trump could have pardoned all the non-violent J6ers, but he didn't
-Trump camp is floating idea of Haley as VP; Dems LOVE Nikki Haley
Basically all you have that's solid is oil production and maybe pulling all military and economic support for Ukraine war. But since he never vetoed any of Pelosi's bills, my guess is he'd sign for all aid to Ukraine.
You conveniently didn’t mention video footage where Trump speaks against child mutilation.
You can't pardon someone who has not been convicted or jailed during their last two weeks in office.
All your other points are regurgitated FN-propaganda like the other sufferers of TDS.
Oh, btw, those with common sense know that Barry is running shadow for Joe.
https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-trumps-lead-gop-primary-widens
Fox News Poll: Trump’s lead in GOP primary widens
"Former President Donald Trump keeps gaining ground in the Republican presidential nomination contest, as fewer than one third of GOP primary voters now back all his rivals combined, according to the latest Fox News survey.
Trump's support stands at 69% in the primary race. That's up 7 points since November and fully 26 points since February.
Ron DeSantis receives 12% support (down 1 point since November), Nikki Haley gets 9% (-1), Vivek Ramaswamy 5% (-2), Chris Christie 2% (-1), and Asa Hutchinson 1% (steady)."
I mean, at this point, they can hold another primary, but it's time for these 4 to realize they're vying for the VP slot now to run with it in 2028
The state governors mandated the lock downs. Trump said he could have stopped (per article 2) the lock downs, but decided not to.
Biden administration has approved more drilling permits than Trump. Shutting down pipeline construction to move Canadian oil to the south coast for sale overseas would have not lowered American gas prices.
Which of the accusations in your post was Trump not guilty of?
The entire plandemic and mandates was from/by the DS and their accomplices, Trump didn’t push any mandates, and the authoritarian fascists did all that. Stop making excuses for them like a shill.
There is not a single argument that you can make about the pipelines or gas that will change the facts that we had low gas prices with Trump and double/triple gas prices for three years under Biden.
Cite all the bullshit internet scriptures you want as they will not change those facts.
Trump says he could have stopped them. But he did not. Doesn't that make him part of the problem?
How about you prove that there were double/triple the gas prices under Biden compared to Trump?
Maybe if there is another pandemic, then Biden mismanages it and allows the governors to shut down their economies like they did under Trump, then demand for gasoline will drop. Then the prices will go down. Will you praise Biden for this like you're praising Trump? Do you really want to have cheaper gas this much?
My links are more convincing than your unsupported claims.
God, you people are pathetic. You're gonna feel real dumb one day.
shareYou aren't even going to attempt answering the question? Don't you feel dumb TODAY?
shareEven if he were to answer it, you still wouldn't accept his reply and you know you wouldn't and round and round and rinse & repeat
shareWhere is your proof that the 2020 election was stolen? It's a simple request so why do you run away like the little pussy you are instead of posting your evidence?
shareDems in 2016: Elections cant be stolen
Dems in 2016: The election was stolen
Dems in 2020: The election will be stolen
Dems in 2020: The election wasn't stolen
Dems in 2024: The election will be stolen
Dems in 2024: TBD
He is a hypocrite that refused to answer my question on a different board.
shareYou should try that ignore button when it comes down to this stuff because the one thing I notice is certain posters like to break down your reply and dissect it word for word and then start in with the "What did you mean by this this and this" type of shit??
shareWhere is your proof that the 2020 election was stolen? It's a simple request so why do you run away like the little pussy you are instead of posting your evidence?
shareOnly poor little snowflakes put users on ignore because they got their little feelings hurt.
shareI answered you twice. Do you hate black people yes or no? See how that works? Of course you don't because you have zero depth.
share[–] RockAway (1114) 10 hours ago
You aren't even going to attempt answering the question? Don't you feel dumb TODAY?
I answered it twice. God damn you are dumb.
shareI repeatedly asked you for a simple "Yes or No?"
You deflected twice with excuses.
You still don't understand that all questions don't have a yes or no answer? There is a serious problem with your logic. I already explained this to you. Why would I say yes or no to a question that's answer is sometimes? My God, this is maddening.
shareSo, according to you, it is sometimes ok for blacks to be racist against whites.
Thanks for finally admitting it.
Is that the question you asked me you dishonest fuck? No, it's not. You asked if black people should trust white people yes or no and sometimes they absolutely should not.
shareWrong, It was a racist movie by racist producers.
And here was my question with one of your replies:
[–] tvfan (5170) 2 days agoshare
You still didn't answer my question.
So blacks should only trust blacks? Yes or No?
[–] RockAway (1118) 2 days ago
I did answer you. Its not a yes or no situation. The world doesn't work that way.
[–] tvfan (5170) 2 days ago
No, you deflected with an excuse.
Not answering your question is different than someone not giving you the answer you want. There is no point in talking to you because you don't have a basic understanding of simple concepts. Did you graduate High School?
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Here is MY take on this.
When Trump first ran, he got his unstoppable-ness from his stance on the issues, and his refusal to be cowed by the media.
BUT the hysterical reaction to him, from the left over time, has given me the feeling that the opposition to him is not based on his fairly normal stance on issues,
but on the preception that he was the symbol of me and mine, whether that is "working class whites" or "straight white males" or just "Traditional Americans".
i don't really care about Trump's stance on the issues TODAY. I want him to NOT lose, because him losing would validate all the hate that lefties have been dumping on me and mine, for all the made up shit that they say about us.
YOUR hysterical hate of him and us, has made him a symbol of US. Your hysterical hate of him, and your hysterical targatting of him, has made him a martyr.
Trump's fairly normal stance on the issues? Since when was a gun grab after a single mass shooting and a proposal to grab any gun from any person without due process considered normal?
That you don't care about Trump's stance on issues but still support him is stupid. If you're going to vote for a person, then you really do need to care about their stance on the issues.
Trump is alive and not in prison. He is not a martyr by any stretch of the imagination. Your victim card is worthless here.
Your victim card is worthless here.
It is not my opinion that trump had a gun grab after a single mass shooting. Trump said so. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-administration-to-ban-bump-stocks-all-devices-that-turn-legal-weapons-into-machine-guns
I agree that it is my opinion that supporting Trump is stupid. But I care about my civil rights, so too bad for you.
How is Trump a martyr?
By the agencies of the DS and RINO advisors. Get some help for your TDS.
shareTrump is a RINO. How else do you explain his gun grab and thirst for confiscating any gun from any person who is imagined to be violent?
shareSeveral others included myself have explained it to you.
Regardless of POTUS, the DS is ultimately in control.
The expectations you have of Trump are nothing short of deifying him.
So claiming deep state is how you justify Trump being a complete pussy? That is complete BS and cowardly position to take.
shareThe DS is a fact, cope with it.
shareSo why is it when Biden does evil and/or stupid stuff, it is Biden's fault?
But when Trump is a complete ass and infringes upon our civil rights, it is the fault of the deep state?
Why is Biden his own man and Trump is a doormat the deep state wipes their feet on?
Biden and his shadow Obama are members of the DS.
shareOh. But Trump is not? So why does Trump keep on bending over for the deep state that you claim exists?
Please tell me more about the Trump doormat that keeps the deep state feet clean?
Tell me, what do you suggest he does to the DS and how?
shareSince I think the deep state is a product of your imagination, then you're going to have to tell me.
Trump says he can do anything, was he lying when he said this? Did the deep state make him say it?
Since you don't believe they exist, than why bother asking?
shareI'm asking for you opinion on the matter. If you know so much about the deep state, then why do they let you live?
Personally, I think you're making up all of this deep state crap as an excuse for why Trump is so weak that he has to have his own gun grab and cannot really accomplish much even though he claims he can do anything he wants.
1. Since before I was born. I would have to research it to find out exactly when, and I don't really see any value in that.
2. I explained my reasons for supporting him regardless of polices. You failed to challenge or address tehm in your response. That is stupid of you. And it means that you lose this debate.
3. Calling living people martyrs is fairly normal. I know that he has not been literally killed. He is certainly a victim of your insane hostility.
4. It is worth noting that hte op was a question about the motives of trump supporters and that hte person that asked it, appreciated my serious answer.
[–] Corbell (5663) 17 hours ago
i don't really care about Trump's stance on the issues TODAY.
It reflects the bad stance of our political scene.
shareSo if it reflects badly on Trump's politics, why do you still support him?
shareInteresting. I stated that it reflected badly on "our political scene", and you interpreted that as "On Trump's politics".
Would you like to try again? This time responding to what I ACTUALLY said, instead of talking like a crazy person.
Trump is part of the political scene. How is it you don't know that? Should I expect a direct answer or more evasion?
shareI do know that. My words did not deny that.
I am not hte one being weird or evasive. I am being honest about my support for Trump. i was asked a question and I answered.
Perhaps YOu need to ask a question. You seem very confused about my clear words.
You're bouncing around too much. You don't care about Trump's political stance on the issues (our civil rights?). Then you say that Trump's gun grab reflects badly on our political scene, instead of admitting that it is solely on Trump that he ordered the ATF to ban bump stocks.
It sounds like you're an inch away from the typical MAGA claim that the ban did not happen, or that Biden did it.
Sure, you will say that you're honest about your support for Trump until someone asks if that support includes Trump's personal war upon our civil rights. I have yet to see you defend Trump for his gun grab and proposed red flag laws without due process. Why do you support a politician who hates us so much?
My response actually was that MY POSITION of not caring, reflects badly on teh political scene.
You need to be more concise. You are confusing yourself. You don't seem to have the ability to discuss multple points at once.
Would you now like to address what I actually said instead of your misunderstanding of it?
He could lie about gas prices all over America being from $5 to as high as $8 when 99.2% of America has values below $5
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