As I understand it, anyone charged with committing crimes is asked to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty, and if they say they're guilty then they're jailed immediately. But if they say not guilty, then they're still jailed ON REMAND until the time of their trial, and kept jailed overnight until the trial is over, and if they're found not guilty then they're free to leave, otherwise, it's the full sentence as always.
So why, and HOW, can Trump just saunter in time and again, say not guilty and walk out again, free as a bird? Is it because he's an ex-Pres, or rich? I heard he's not even rich now, so that doesn't count.
The indictments against Trump are a fucking JOKE, because rich interested parties are defending him and holding off imprisonment until he can somehow get himself pardoned, and Trump is absolutely fine with that, and so are his rich donors. Bastards!
posted an hour ago by AMJF (4273)
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As I understand it, anyone charged with committing crimes is asked to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty, and if they say they're guilty then they're jailed immediately.
That is not true. In the USA there is still "Due Process" and an arraignment and then sentencing after trial. The judge decides if they are a flight risk and bond is set.
But if they say not guilty, then they're still jailed ON REMAND until the time of their trial, and kept jailed overnight until the trial is over, and if they're found not guilty then they're free to leave, otherwise, it's the full sentence as always.
Not all crimes are created equal and judges have discretion as to the punishment dealt out. BUT there is always "Due Process" because this was an arraignment hearing and not a sentencing hearing. If it was a sentencing hearing and he pleaded Guilty, and it was a felony with jail time, then OFF and away DJT goes.
So why, and HOW, can Trump just saunter in time and again, say not guilty and walk out again, free as a bird?
You are right in that he was not held but he is NOT free and there are conditions that he agreed to in order to allow him time to prepare for trial.
Is it because he's an ex-Pres, or rich? I heard he's not even rich now, so that doesn't count.
Uh, no. DJT got no special treatment as an EX-president with this judge. If you look on the Trump forum you'll see a few posts that DJT was irked that the judge called him Mr. Trump and nothing else BUT Mr. Trump!!
The indictments against Trump are a fucking JOKE, because rich interested parties are defending him and holding off imprisonment until he can somehow get himself pardoned, and Trump is absolutely fine with that, and so are his rich donors. Bastards!
You are spot on and Trump is and will try and do ANYTHING to get re-elected or have a sympathetic Republican get elected who will pardon him.
Here is another angle that could very well happen.
Nixon was pardoned by Ford so that the country could "Heal". Biden might do the very same thing in order to try and "Heal" the country rather than wipe out Trumpism and go after all of those involved with this "Coup" against Democracy. This country bent over backwards after the Civil War and the "Lost Cause" grew out of that by the North not sanctioning the Confederacy.
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Nixon was pardoned by Ford so that the country could "Heal". Biden might do the very same thing in order to try and "Heal" the country
Utter delusion or some of the most bare faced, audacious gaslighting I've seen on these forums. Only the rubes already on the anti-Trump train believe this complete fantasy take. The reason Trump was even arrested in the first place was because of Biden and his communist allies abusing their authority and hampering the leading opposition to the election. The more likey scenario is that Biden will attempt to lock Trump up for the remainder of his life because Biden is an illegitimate president terrified of the real POTUS and will do everything he can to stop the real POTUS from taking back power if he can.
FYI I already know to ignore whatever gaslighting drivel you post in response to this but feel free wasting your time on a gaslighting post that won't be read by me.
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You're so far brainwashed against Trump it's scary, too many low IQ easily manipulated by media muppets identical to you in the world and that's even scarier.
One does not have to listen to anything said by MSM. All they have to do is listen to what Trump says. He is a fucking moron. The latest........Trump threatens Jack Smith with "You go after me, I'm coming after you". Only a stupid person would threaten the special council that has indicted him. Uh...that would be Trump. Shaking my head.
Oh yawn yet again you come out with the most Blueanon schizo talking points because you're exactly as I described, easily manipulated, the definition of useful idiot. Trump never threatened anyone, that's just the newest Dem gaslighting point. You're such a retard.
You don't take Trump's words as a threat? What planet do you live on? That is most certainly threatening rhetoric. Trump is a big bully and he will never change. Trump is dangerous for sure.
No I take it as the boomer motivational Truth post it was and so do you, gtfo with your disingenuous faux outrage and get on my ignore list, I'm done conversing with spastics.
You’re the most delusional MAGA zombie on this board.
The reason Trump was arrested is because he’s accused of breaking many laws.
Just like if you robbed a bank.
Why are you so anxious to tell us how you're questioning your sanity? All you have to do is disagree with what people are saying instead of falling on your sword.
The reason Trump was arrested is because he was accused of violating a law. You know, laws. Those things that other people regard as hints about what they should not be doing. Those things that Trump says do not apply to him.
Trump is elderly and obese, a life sentence might only be five years.
Trump talks a big game, but I think the only people who are afraid of him are those who have been riding his coat tails for far too long and need to keep on kissing his ass. Those would be the RINO's. Democrats, independents and the real GOP have nothing to fear from Trump.
Do you see the irony in bragging about not reading a post by posting a reply to that post?
posted an hour ago by AMJF (4273)
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As I understand it, anyone charged with committing crimes is asked to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty, and if they say they're guilty then they're jailed immediately.
That is not true. In the USA there is still "Due Process" and an arraignment and then sentencing after trial. The judge decides if they are a flight risk and bond is set.
But if they say not guilty, then they're still jailed ON REMAND until the time of their trial, and kept jailed overnight until the trial is over, and if they're found not guilty then they're free to leave, otherwise, it's the full sentence as always.
Not all crimes are created equal and judges have discretion as to the punishment dealt out. BUT there is always "Due Process" because this was an arraignment hearing and not a sentencing hearing. If it was a sentencing hearing and he pleaded Guilty, and it was a felony with jail time, then OFF and away DJT goes.
So why, and HOW, can Trump just saunter in time and again, say not guilty and walk out again, free as a bird?
You are right in that he was not held but he is NOT free and there are conditions that he agreed to in order to allow him time to prepare for trial.
Is it because he's an ex-Pres, or rich? I heard he's not even rich now, so that doesn't count.
Uh, no. DJT got no special treatment as an EX-president with this judge. If you look on this Trump forum you'll see a few posts that DJT was irked that the judge called him Mr. Trump and nothing else BUT Mr. Trump!!
Rich people can afford expensive lawyers and they do keep you out of jail in the beginning.
The indictments against Trump are a fucking JOKE, because rich interested parties are defending him and holding off imprisonment until he can somehow get himself pardoned, and Trump is absolutely fine with that, and so are his rich donors. Bastards!
You're mixing a few things up. The indictments are not a joke, the judicial system and the rights of citizens make it almost impossible to have a speedy trial. The system can be gamed in a number of ways. DJT has been gaming and scamming legal accountability since forever.
It is NOT the indictments it is the system of justice in the USofA. 👍
You are spot on and Trump is and will try and do ANYTHING to get re-elected or have a sympathetic Republican get elected who will pardon him.
Here is another angle that could very well happen and it involves Joe Biden should he win in 2024:
Nixon was pardoned by Ford so that the country could "Heal". Biden might do the very same thing in order to try and "Heal" the country rather than wipe out Trumpism and go after all of those involved with this "Coup" against Democracy. This country bent over backwards after the Civil War and the "Lost Cause" grew out of that by the North not sanctioning the Confederacy.
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The funniest part is they indict like 40x for the same so-called “crime”. Like a cop following someone speeding for 10 miles and giving them 40 speeding tickets.
Even funnier is when the government charges “conspiracy to commit a conspiracy”. Ie no crime was committed.
You are right, it’s a laughable joke. What’s not a joke is a political witch-hunt committed by the pedophile loving Democrat media/party. The depth of their corruption has no bounds. They have become historically worthless to the American people.
The funny thing about robopussy893 is that he's not even English yet he uses the cloned chat forums of an English website! What a wierdo freak, can't he find any US sites to discuss movies on? He's creepily enamoured with using this website and he's, get this, not even English!
BTW if you want to know where I am from i don't hide it and there are plenty of clues for the discerning mind to interpret.
I'm triggering the stupidist Trump supporters here and I'm obviously living in their empty heads rent free. That's why these two losers keep bringing up my user name in their comments.
Also, I would like for you to show proof of me worshiping Biden. I'm not holding my breath because you have yet to prove I support pedophiles and child groomers as you have claimed numerous times. Plus we are all waiting for the proof you have that the 2020 election was rigged. You say you provided proof before so why don't you show your proof now? I'm sure Trump would appreciate it. As usual instead of providing your proofs you run away like a little coward you are.